Kingston KC3000 2 TB

[Deleted member 215115]

Drive looks good and the prices are comparable to the other flagships here in Vampire land. The only thing that worries me is Kingston swapping parts silently. Same concern about the SN850. At this point, I don't think I trust any brand anymore apart from Samsung which is why I'm seriously considering the 980 Pro.

 

[zlobby]

These drives make the Intel 6000P i have in my USB enclosure look really sad, i can see its writes dip to 50MB/s at times -.-

That's what you deserve for using intel.

 

[Mussels]

That's what you deserve for using intel.

To be fair, i got that 1TB NVME for $400 Au, when that price should have got me a 256GB drive
Of course, i know now that it was sold so cheap because their write speeds are le poop.

 

[Rob_DF_MX]

Can you install this line of Kingston SSDs onto a PCIe 3.0 NVMe M.2 SSD slot ?
I want to do that because of the large cache on this model and maybe upgrade later to PCIe 4.0

Please let me know and thanks a lot in advance.

PD. On future SSDs reviews I would find very useful how new drives behave on PCIe 3.0 for the same reasons above.
Muchas gracias.

 

[Mussels]

Can you install this line of Kingston SSDs onto a PCIe 3.0 NVMe M.2 SSD slot ?
I want to do that because of the large cache on this model and maybe upgrade later to PCIe 4.0

Please let me know and thanks a lot in advance.

PD. On future SSDs reviews I would find very useful how new drives behave on PCIe 3.0 for the same reasons above.
Muchas gracias.

Yes, they always work backwards compatible. Max read/write speeds would be slower, all other results should be the same

 

[Space Lynx]

@W1zzard official kingston website, just ordered me one. solid deal. also they have the 2tb for $205. not the 450 you have listed, and the 205 isn't a sell price. this is the official kingston website store. just fyi.

i cancelled my sn770 order. for 40 bucks more i double my storage capacity and get increased speeds. hope i made right choice. for $90 not a bad deal though i think, considering its 176 layer Phison E18

 

[zlobby]

@W1zzard official kingston website, just ordered me one. solid deal. also they have the 2tb for $205. not the 450 you have listed, and the 205 isn't a sell price. this is the official kingston website store. just fyi.

i cancelled my sn770 order. for 40 bucks more i double my storage capacity and get increased speeds. hope i made right choice. for $90 not a bad deal though i think, considering its 176 layer Phison E18

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It all boils down to what exactly do you need it for. Data retention? IOPS? Sequential writes?

 

[Space Lynx]

It all boils down to what exactly do you need it for. Data retention? IOPS? Sequential writes?

best bang for buck, so i can sit at the rich kids table and tell them i paid a fraction for my rig that gets pretty much same scores as theirs.

 

[zlobby]

best bang for buck, so i can sit at the rich kids table and tell them i paid a fraction for my rig that gets pretty much same scores as theirs.

Just don't use it as a photo archieve!

 

[kaktus1907]

I read a customer review dated to Jan 22, on a local marketplace that Kingston's started using "Silicon Motion 2269XTF" controller without any DRAM on KC3000 2TB SKU.

My drive is on the transit, I expect to have it tomorrow. gonna double check if my drive has the same issue.

EDIT: I just grabbed my drive. Fortunately no bad news.

Phison NVME & SATA SSD flash id (dll) v0.382a by Ochkin Vadim
OS: 10.0 build 22621
0: (WDC WD40EZRZ-22GXCB0
1: (Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB
2: (WDC WD40EZRZ-00GXCB0
3: (KINGSTON SKC3000D2048G
4: (Samsung SSD 970 PRO 512GB
Please select drive number:3
Drive   : 3(NVME)
Driver  : W10(3:3)
Model   : KINGSTON SKC3000D2048G
Fw      : EIFK31.6
Size    : 1953514 MB [2048.4 GB]
LBA Size: 512
Read_System_Info_5008 error: -1
Firmware lock supported [02 01] [    ] [0B00]
Handshake error: -7
Drive state [02 02]
F/W     : EIFK31.6 00
P/N     : 9638488
Get_Flash_Info_5012 error: -1
Controller    : PS5018-E18
Nand vendor   : Micron (0x2c)
FlashID: 0x2c,0xc3,0x8,0x32,0xea,0x30,0x0,0x0 - Micron 176L(B47R) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
CPU Clk       : 1000
Flash CE      : 32
Flash Channel : 8
Interleave    : 4
Flash CE Mask : [++++++++ ++++++++ ++++++++ ++++++++]
FlashR Clk,MT : 1600
FlashW Clk,MT : 1600
Die per CE    : 1
Block per CE  : 2208
Page per Block: 2112
Bit Per Cell  : 3(TLC)
DRAM Size,MB  : 2048
DRAM Clock,MHz: 1600
DRAM Type     : DDR4
PE Cycle Limit: 3000
SLC cache     : 0xFFFFFFFF/0xFFFFFFFF
ParPage   : 00

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Phison PS5018-E18 controller and 176L Micron TLC NAND.

 

[Space Lynx]

I read a customer review dated to Jan 22, on a local marketplace that Kingston's started using "Silicon Motion 2269XTF" controller without any DRAM on KC3000 2TB SKU.

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My drive is on the transit, I expect to have it tomorrow. gonna double check if my drive has the same issue.

EDIT: I just grabbed my drive. Fortunately no bad news.

Phison NVME & SATA SSD flash id (dll) v0.382a by Ochkin Vadim
OS: 10.0 build 22621
0: (WDC WD40EZRZ-22GXCB0
1: (Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB
2: (WDC WD40EZRZ-00GXCB0
3: (KINGSTON SKC3000D2048G
4: (Samsung SSD 970 PRO 512GB
Please select drive number:3
Drive   : 3(NVME)
Driver  : W10(3:3)
Model   : KINGSTON SKC3000D2048G
Fw      : EIFK31.6
Size    : 1953514 MB [2048.4 GB]
LBA Size: 512
Read_System_Info_5008 error: -1
Firmware lock supported [02 01] [    ] [0B00]
Handshake error: -7
Drive state [02 02]
F/W     : EIFK31.6 00
P/N     : 9638488
Get_Flash_Info_5012 error: -1
Controller    : PS5018-E18
Nand vendor   : Micron (0x2c)
FlashID: 0x2c,0xc3,0x8,0x32,0xea,0x30,0x0,0x0 - Micron 176L(B47R) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
CPU Clk       : 1000
Flash CE      : 32
Flash Channel : 8
Interleave    : 4
Flash CE Mask : [++++++++ ++++++++ ++++++++ ++++++++]
FlashR Clk,MT : 1600
FlashW Clk,MT : 1600
Die per CE    : 1
Block per CE  : 2208
Page per Block: 2112
Bit Per Cell  : 3(TLC)
DRAM Size,MB  : 2048
DRAM Clock,MHz: 1600
DRAM Type     : DDR4
PE Cycle Limit: 3000
SLC cache     : 0xFFFFFFFF/0xFFFFFFFF
ParPage   : 00

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Phison PS5018-E18 controller and 176L Micron TLC NAND.

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Here is my KC3000 1tb I got for $90 on a lightning sale... Still doing really well! I think... wow how come you are so much faster than me? Because you are 2tb and empty drive and I am 1tb and full drive?

 

[kaktus1907]

Here is my KC3000 1tb I got for $90 on a lightning sale... Still doing really well! I think... wow how come you are so much faster than me? Because you are 2tb and empty drive and I am 1tb and full drive?

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I benched using CDM nvme settings under settings tab, not default.

 

[Space Lynx]

ok much better, I am guessing your scores are still better cause of empty drive + 2tb variant.

i just installed assassins creed origins so i have even less space now... lol

 

[Mussels]

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ok much better, I am guessing your scores are still better cause of empty drive + 2tb variant.

i just installed assassins creed origins so i have even less space now... lol

higher capacity versions always perform better, more DRAM chips (Effectively internal RAID)

 

[Space Lynx]

@W1zzard prices have dropped insanely on NVME drives lately, just wanted to show you and everyone what a 1TB high quality KC3000 costs now: absolutely wild

in a world of non-stop inflation, its rather interesting seeing some products go the complete opposite way

KC3000 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 SSD | High-Performance Internal SSD up to 7000MB/s – Kingston Technology

Upgrade to KC3000 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 SSD, harnessing next-level performance with Gen 4x4 NVMe controller and 3D TLC NAND. Enhance high-performance desktops and laptops, ideal for power users demanding the fastest speeds. Shop now at Kingston and elevate your computing experience!

shop.kingston.com

 

[zlobby]

in a world of non-stop inflation, its rather interesting seeing some products go the complete opposite way

Unlike as it is with basic commodities, the prices of consumer-grade computer perhipherals is regulated by the market i.e., by demand. If NVMe for example are not sought after then their price won't be too high, even more so when memory chips' manufacturing prices are dropping as well.

 

[Space Lynx]

Unlike as it is with basic commodities, the prices of consumer-grade computer perhipherals is regulated by the market i.e., by demand. If NVMe for example are not sought after then their price won't be too high, even more so when memory chips' manufacturing prices are dropping as well.

in that case, why don't they just artificially limit stock like AMD admitted it is doing with 7900 XTX stock?

 

[zlobby]

in that case, why don't they just artificially limit stock like AMD admitted it is doing with 7900 XTX stock?

And with all that competition, what would happen? People would just buy other stuff, while Kingston (or any other for that matter) would simply be left with surplus for which they have paid the BOM and manufacturing costs, but nobody wants.

 

[Mussels]

High end NVME's just made the news with early failure and BSOD problems and tanked in price, so a lot of NVME's are now cheaper to compete with that

 

[dockalacek]

Četl jsem zákaznickou recenzi ze dne 22. ledna na místním trhu , že společnost Kingston začala používat řadič „Silicon Motion 2269XTF“ bez jakékoli DRAM na KC3000 2TB SKU.

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Můj disk je v tranzitu, očekávám, že ho budu mít zítra. ještě jednou zkontroluji, jestli můj disk nemá stejný problém.

EDIT: Právě jsem si vzal svůj disk. Naštěstí žádné špatné zprávy.

[KÓD] Phison NVME & SATA SSD flash id (dll) v0.382a od Ochkina Vadima
OS: 10.0 sestavení 22621
0: (WDC WD40EZRZ-22GXCB0
1: (Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB
2: (WDC WD40EZRZ-00GXCB0
3: (KINGSTON SKC3000D2048G
4: (Samsung SSD 970 PRO 512GB
Vyberte číslo disku: 3
Pohon: 3 (NVME)
Ovladač: W10 (3:3)
Model: KINGSTON SKC3000D2048G
Fw: EIFK31.6
Velikost: 1953514 MB [2048,4 GB]
Velikost LBA: 512
Chyba Read_System_Info_5008: -1
Podporován zámek firmwaru [02 01] [ ] [0B00]
Chyba handshake: -7
Stav disku [02 02]
F/W: EIFK 31,6 00
P/N: 9638488
Chyba Get_Flash_Info_5012: -1
Ovladač: PS5018-E18
Dodavatel Nand: Micron (0x2c)
FlashID: 0x2c,0xc3,0x8,0x32,0xea,0x30,0x0,0x0 – Micron 176L(B47R) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Clk CPU: 1000
Flash CE: 32
Flash kanál: 8
Proložení: 4
Flash CE maska: [++++++++ ++++++++ ++++++++ ++++++++]
FlashR Clk,MT: 1600
FlashW Clk,MT: 1600
Zemřít podle CE: 1
Blok na CE: 2208
Počet stránek v bloku: 2112
Bit na buňku: 3 (TLC)
Velikost DRAM, MB: 2048
Takt DRAM, MHz: 1600
Typ DRAM: DDR4
Limit PE cyklu: 3000
SLC cache: 0xFFFFFFFF/0xFFFFFFFF
ParPage: 00

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Řadič Phison PS5018-E18 a 176L Micron TLC NAND.

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Oh, yeah, you scared me a little. In the thread about the Kingston NV2 that I bought as a gift for my brother, I learned that it is QLC. I'm giving my brother $18 for the holidays and $18 for his birthday. He bought Far Cry 6 and doesn't have enough space on his 500GB drive. So I bought a 1TB NV2 for about $53. But when I found out that the drive no longer uses TLC chips, I felt cheated and ripped off. So I got mad and ordered the KC3000 1TB with the understanding that my brother would sell the existing KC2500 500GB for $25. I got quite a chuckle when you wrote that there was a controller change in the 2TB version of the KC3000. Man to be afraid to buy any SSD today because he has no assurance that it hasn't been peed on.

I'm a disabled retiree, in a wheelchair since birth, and since my brother doesn't have a log drive, I didn't want to buy a $90 drive, so my brother made it easy by selling me a KC2500. Are the KC3000 1TB still based on PS5018-E18 and 176L Micron TLC NAND, or has there been some "ditching"?

Ideally, you buy hardware right at the time of the first reviews, because a year from now, even if the product has the same name, you may be able to get a thing with worse features than when those first reviews were done. It's like there's almost nothing to rely on anymore, it's a strange time.

 

[mama]

The 2TB version definitely performs better.

 

[Al3xisx]

hi, with heatshink from motherboard, installed between cpu and gpu, midtower case + 3 fans in + 2 fans out, gaming pc main use, desktop usage(browsing) and occasionally copy/transfer file , what max temp i can reach ?
Shoul be a good option in my use ?

.... yes i love the speed of the nvme pci 4 but im care the temp

 

[Panther_Seraphin]

hi, with heatshink from motherboard, installed between cpu and gpu, midtower case + 3 fans in + 2 fans out, gaming pc main use, desktop usage(browsing) and occasionally copy/transfer file , what max temp i can reach ?
Shoul be a good option in my use ?

.... yes i love the speed of the nvme pci 4 but im care the temp

Unless you are deciding to run an enterprise level SQL database or constant 24/7 video editing there shouldnt be any issue with heat especially running a heatsink on the drive.

These are the average temperature of a Gen 5 Plus SSD with a 17 day uptime with mixed gaming/idle/browsing etc with the stock heatsink from Asrock X670e Steel Legend.

 

[Al3xisx]

When i see 75°C max temp reach, for other brand i saw also 85-90°C, is always related to very intense workload like torture test ?

 

[W1zzard]

is always related to very intense workload like torture test ?

Correct. Over the years I've changed the test setup slightly. The setup from this review uses an AMD stock air cooler on the CPU, which generates some airflow. The 2023 test setup uses an AIO, so there's even less air movement in the case