Laptop overclocking adventures

[kwchang007]

Why don't you pool your money and ask them too help fund you with a project desktop build that can be built over time. Therefore they're more likely to shell out more in the long run and you get yourself a cheap desktop. The prices you can get at the moment are ridiculously low for the performance. You could get a better one than mine for $600. I can help with the planning if you want.

hmm pooling money...hmmm very interesting... I LIKE! lol. maybe i could put it to them this way. i'll turn our dell into a media machine for a home theater system (hell we already have the sound card, just need a decent video card and a sound tuner) and they can use my laptop, unless of course i need it for a trip. then i can get my computer...yeahh sounds good, plus long term is always best. but if i am going to build, im going to wait until that price drop intel is doing at the end of summer (yes i really do like core 2 duo, they're just crazy). also, by then r600 and g80 will be cheaper, and hopefully r600 will move over to a 65 nm production (gawd that thing uses too much power). also by then, they'll have the new intel chipset out and 975x will drop in price same with p965, sweet stuff there.

 

[theonetruewill]

hmm pooling money...hmmm very interesting... I LIKE! lol. maybe i could put it to them this way. i'll turn our dell into a media machine for a home theater system (hell we already have the sound card, just need a decent video card and a sound tuner) and they can use my laptop, unless of course i need it for a trip. then i can get my computer...yeahh sounds good, plus long term is always best. but if i am going to build, im going to wait until that price drop intel is doing at the end of summer (yes i really do like core 2 duo, they're just crazy). also, by then r600 and g80 will be cheaper, and hopefully r600 will move over to a 65 nm production (gawd that thing uses too much power). also by then, they'll have the new intel chipset out and 975x will drop in price same with p965, sweet stuff there.

Woah, 975x is actually worse than the 965 imo. It doesn't overclock as well and is actually slightly slower. However it does have SLI and Xfire support. Also, tbh don't wait for the price-cuts - there is always going to be another cut round the corner, just go for it and you'll be happy. So what, if I could build, my PC for around £305 now; I wouldn't have had it for the fun months I've had! Get a E6320 though, legendary processor. And for a mobo, the Asus P5b Deluxe is the best overclocker imo.

 

[kwchang007]

Woah, 975x is actually worse than the 965 imo. It doesn't overclock as well and is actually slightly slower. However it does have SLI and Xfire support. Also, tbh don't wait for the price-cuts - there is always going to be another cut round the corner, just go for it and you'll be happy. So what, if I could build, my PC for around £305 now; I wouldn't have had it for the fun months I've had! Get a E6320 though, legendary processor. And for a mobo, the Asus P5b Deluxe is the best overclocker imo.

well i was only looking at 975x cause of the dual pci-e x16 slots, otherwise 965 pwns 975x. yeah, but the only thing is i need the price cuts for my comp, lol. like a 650i board, e4300, cheap (but ok) ddr800 ram, 8800 gts 640mb (<-----takes all my money), psu, case, good cooler with fan, vista (yeah i love vista ), and the other neccassry things are in the 1200 range (no monitor either). so the whole problem is price if i build, id like to keep it under 1000, but i also want a 8800 gts 640 mb or r600. so idk, but we shall see what my parents say.

 

[theonetruewill]

well i was only looking at 975x cause of the dual pci-e x16 slots, otherwise 965 pwns 975x. yeah, but the only thing is i need the price cuts for my comp, lol. like a 650i board, e4300, cheap (but ok) ddr800 ram, 8800 gts 640mb (<-----takes all my money), psu, case, good cooler with fan, vista (yeah i love vista ), and the other neccassry things are in the 1200 range (no monitor either). so the whole problem is price if i build, id like to keep it under 1000, but i also want a 8800 gts 640 mb or r600. so idk, but we shall see what my parents say.

I reckon 8800GTS 320 would be better. You only need 640 for very hi-res gaming. And go for 965 over Nforce anyday. the i680's are overpriced BS that are slower than their 965 counterparts, and the i650 has good pricing, but again 965 beats it. There's no need to go SLI , or Xfire really unless you need to (or have huge reserves of cash), and you don't. I decided against it, too costly in the end. I 'm sure we could build you a cheap gaming pc. At lower prices than you're thinking about. Oh and why do you want such high-end RAM, to be honest you won't notice it. Just up the timings and oc your RAM. Timings matter less with Intel systems. And get the E6320, 4MB's of L2 pwn.

 

[kwchang007]

I reckon 8800GTS 320 would be better. You only need 640 for very hi-res gaming. And go for 965 over Nforce anyday. the i680's are overpriced BS that are slower than their 965 counterparts, and the i650 has good pricing, but again 965 beats it. There's no need to go SLI , or Xfire really unless you need to (or have huge reserves of cash), and you don't. I decided against it, too costly in the end. I 'm sure we could build you a cheap gaming pc. At lower prices than you're thinking about. Oh and why do you want such high-end RAM, to be honest you won't notice it. Just up the timings and oc your RAM. Timings matter less with Intel systems. And get the E6320, 4MB's of L2 pwn.

yeahh the only thing with the ram is the headroom. remember a 553 mhz ram is one to one with a 1066 fsb. 667 to 1333 (all of this is rough, lol). let's see....800 is about 1600 rated and 400 unrated. since the e6320 at 400 fsb it is a 2.8 ghz chip. to hit 3 ghz you need 429 fsb. so if i even want to start hitting decent speeds it has to get to 450 mhz, so not really that high end, lol. yeah 8800 gts 320 mb may be good enough, escpially since the monitor would probably be a 1440x900. and yes 4mb's of l2 is amazing, remember my chip has that

 

[theonetruewill]

yeahh the only thing with the ram is the headroom. remember a 553 mhz ram is one to one with a 1066 fsb. 667 to 1333 (all of this is rough, lol). let's see....800 is about 1600 rated and 400 unrated. since the e6320 at 400 fsb it is a 2.8 ghz chip. to hit 3 ghz you need 429 fsb. so if i even want to start hitting decent speeds it has to get to 450 mhz, so not really that high end, lol. yeah 8800 gts 320 mb may be good enough, escpially since the monitor would probably be a 1440x900. and yes 4mb's of l2 is amazing, remember my chip has that

Yeah, but you can just change the RAM/CPU divider and get some good PC6400 RAM. It'll save you cash. 8800GTS 320 would be fine for that res.

 

[kwchang007]

Yeah, but you can just change the RAM/CPU divider and get some good PC6400 RAM. It'll save you cash. 8800GTS 320 would be fine for that res.

hmmm idk, lol these are a pretty good price, it's like 85 bucks for 2 gb's so....pretty good price. and pc6400 ram, there's one set that's cheaper by about 5 dollars. oh check out this cooler http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16835103026amazing....but i need to find some cheap fans, lol. so let's see, three most expensive items in my cart right now, gfx card, mobo, cpu, sounds about right. if only i didn't need the wifi verision of the mobo....maybe i'll just look at the wifi cards...hmm

 

[theonetruewill]

hmmm idk, lol these are a pretty good price, it's like 85 bucks for 2 gb's so....pretty good price. and pc6400 ram, there's one set that's cheaper by about 5 dollars. oh check out this cooler http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16835103026amazing....but i need to find some cheap fans, lol. so let's see, three most expensive items in my cart right now, gfx card, mobo, cpu, sounds about right. if only i didn't need the wifi verision of the mobo....maybe i'll just look at the wifi cards...hmm

get the Zalman Cu9700LED, its smaller and will fit into a case better than the one. You won't need cooling like that. Don't go overkill. make sure to go for Brand names when getting the RAM. Personally I would have liked to have gone Crucial Ballistix instead of Corsair, but G.Skill or Geil are very good.

EDIT: Scap that, get the gemini, the price is amazing. Get some silent Coolermaster fans.

 

[kwchang007]

get the Zalman Cu9700LED, its smaller and will fit into a case better than the one. You won't need cooling like that. Don't go overkill. make sure to go for Brand names when getting the RAM. Personally I would have liked to have gone Crucial Ballistix instead of Corsair, but G.Skill or Geil are very good.

EDIT: Scap that, get the gemini, the price is amazing. Get some silent Coolermaster fans.

lol yeah the price is nice coolermaster...i'll go check, soo bigggg, lol. oh and the ram is wintec...don't know if it's good or not, if i really want to overclock, might as well just get something with micron d9's (what ram has those again?)

EDIT: coolermaster fans don't move enough air for the price, lol. i choose a set of rosewill fans 120mm of course.

 

[theonetruewill]

lol yeah the price is nice coolermaster...i'll go check, soo bigggg, lol. oh and the ram is wintec...don't know if it's good or not, if i really want to overclock, might as well just get something with micron d9's (what ram has those again?)

EDIT: coolermaster fans don't move enough air for the price, lol. i choose a set of rosewill fans 120mm of course.

I know that Mushkin has that. I also think that 800 DDR2 Gskill sticks have them as well. But I'm not sure. Ask in the Memory section of the forums. @ CoolerMasters, Yeah but they're less noisy too.

 

[kwchang007]

I know that Mushkin has that. I also think that 800 DDR2 Gskill sticks have them as well. But I'm not sure. Ask in the Memory section of the forums. @ CoolerMasters, Yeah but they're less noisy too.

ahh ok, i think that i'll only get those as an upgrade, later on (if i even get this, lol). ehh i can deal with the noise, just turn up the speakers a little, and that's why you can plug them into the mobo (3pin kind)

 

[frankie827]

the nvidia geforce go 8600gs and 8400g came out!!!
their both gddr2 though why?
they should be gddr3

actually they dont call them the geforce go for the 8 series they call it geforce 8m series

 

[theonetruewill]

the nvidia geforce go 8600gs and 8400g came out!!!
their both gddr2 though why?
they should be gddr3

actually they dont call them the geforce go for the 8 series they call it geforce 8m series

Because they are the useless GS models which Nvidia are going cheap on this time round. And thats why, when ATi brings out their mid-low range they're going to pwn Nvidia's ass

 

[kwchang007]

Because they are the useless GS models which Nvidia are going cheap on this time round. And thats why, when ATi brings out their mid-low range they're going to pwn Nvidia's ass

lol sounds nice, now they need one for the e1505!!!!! lol. OMG you're like 2 posts behind me......how much have you been posting lately, lol.

 

[theonetruewill]

lol sounds nice, now they need one for the e1505!!!!! lol. OMG you're like 2 posts behind me......how much have you been posting lately, lol.

 

[frankie827]

yesterday i tried ocing my friends hp laptop using crystal cpuid
well i put his laptop on hte high performance setting on vista and the voltage and the cpu speed still were going up and down as if they were on balanced
but thats n ot the point
so i changed the voltage to the max it could go
then i went to 11x multiplier(originally 10x) oh and btw this is an amd turion 64 2ghz i think ml-34
and well the ocing didnt work out very well
the screen acted as if it were on acid so i restarted it and it was fine
lets just say i can never use his laptop again

 

[theonetruewill]

yesterday i tried ocing my friends hp laptop using crystal cpuid
well i put his laptop on hte high performance setting on vista and the voltage and the cpu speed still were going up and down as if they were on balanced
but thats n ot the point
so i changed the voltage to the max it could go
then i went to 11x multiplier(originally 10x) oh and btw this is an amd turion 64 2ghz i think ml-34
and well the ocing didnt work out very well
the screen acted as if it were on acid so i restarted it and it was fine
lets just say i can never use his laptop again

I know, same happened to a mate. They presume you don't know what you're doing when all you really need is a bit more time. They think you're breaking the damn thing when it freezes or needs to be restarted. n00bs

 

[theonetruewill]

Shit 3:45am I need to go to sleep. Sorry guys no more posting tonight....ZZzzzzzzz

 

[kwchang007]

I know, same happened to a mate. They presume you don't know what you're doing when all you really need is a bit more time. They think you're breaking the damn thing when it freezes or needs to be restarted. n00bs

lol yeah i've done that with my laptop when oc'ing the gfx card : P, not good for the card, lol. oh and the one will, you'll be happy to hear im finally getting into cpu overclocking, my grandparents p3...stock 600 mhz, current stable oc, 746mhz at 6x multi, and 124.1 fsb, 1:1 cpu ram

 

[nflesher87]

I know, same happened to a mate. They presume you don't know what you're doing when all you really need is a bit more time. They think you're breaking the damn thing when it freezes or needs to be restarted. n00bs

same here! I hate how people don't want their stuff messed with when I know what I'm doing pretty well...like my roommate didn't want me to run F@H on his laptop because he didn't want to "decrease performance" and stuff lol even after I explained that it wouldn't...

 

[theonetruewill]

lol yeah i've done that with my laptop when oc'ing the gfx card : P, not good for the card, lol. oh and the one will, you'll be happy to hear im finally getting into cpu overclocking, my grandparents p3...stock 600 mhz, current stable oc, 746mhz at 6x multi, and 124.1 fsb, 1:1 cpu ram

same here! I hate how people don't want their stuff messed with when I know what I'm doing pretty well...like my roommate didn't want me to run F@H on his laptop because he didn't want to "decrease performance" and stuff lol even after I explained that it wouldn't...

Good to know it's not just me! OK this is the funniest though. I overclocked my mate's Athlon64 3000+ to 2.4Ghz but he said I must have put a virus on it because I had put other programs on his desktop. CPU-Z and clockgen (the latter in case his BIOS was hit - it wasn't). He reset his BIOS by calling his uncle to tell him how because he thought CPU-Z knew so much about his conmputer that it must be sending his information like a trojan. He deleted all that I'd done and then told me never to touch his computer again. He asked me to do it for Christ's sake! AND NOW HE ASKS ME TO GET A NEW GFX CARD for him without even allowing me to find uot if he has AGP or PCI-E. I mean how the hell am I supposed to find out what card slot he has. He refuses to find out himself either saying I'm just going to screw up his computer. He also claims that his X550 and AMD64 3000+ is still one of the best builds around.:shadedshu

Ooooo and on another note, like the new avatar? Mmmmhmmmm SMOKIN'

 

[Czez]

Hi

I just read this awsome guide for overclocking cpus on a laptop and of course I had to try it out, but stumbled on a problem.

my laptop is the following:
VAIO VGN-AR21M
Core 2 Duo T5600 1.83ghz
1gb DDR2 SDRAM (533mhz)
Geforce Go 7600 128MB

When I use Notebook Hardware Control and set the cpu to maximum performance the cpu seems to jump between 1000mhz and 1.83ghz So when I try to overclock in clockgen it just resets itself to the default value everytime.

Anyone knows how I can keep the cpu at 1.83ghz all the time and not jumping as it is now?

cheers

 

[kwchang007]

Hi

I just read this awsome guide for overclocking cpus on a laptop and of course I had to try it out, but stumbled on a problem.

my laptop is the following:
VAIO VGN-AR21M
Core 2 Duo T5600 1.83ghz
1gb DDR2 SDRAM (533mhz)
Geforce Go 7600 128MB

When I use Notebook Hardware Control and set the cpu to maximum performance the cpu seems to jump between 1000mhz and 1.83ghz So when I try to overclock in clockgen it just resets itself to the default value everytime.

Anyone knows how I can keep the cpu at 1.83ghz all the time and not jumping as it is now?

cheers

max performance works here.

 

[Czez]

max performance works here.

nice

It does "work" but it seems like something else is resetting it to the core value of 1000mhz.

My guess is that there is another software that I dont know of (or at least SOMETHING) thats resetting the speed down to 1000mhz.

 

[kwchang007]

nice

It does "work" but it seems like something else is resetting it to the core value of 1000mhz.

My guess is that there is another software that I dont know of (or at least SOMETHING) thats resetting the speed down to 1000mhz.

you can try this also. under the voltage tab, tick the box that says "only use multiplyer 1 and voltage 1" then set that multi to your highest, and set voltage to stock.