Latest Ryzen 9 7950X CPU-Z Bench MultiThreaded Score Puts it 8% Behind i9-13900K, 33% Ahead of i9-12900K

[Mussels]

I get the feeling AMD says we shouldnt use CPU-Z results

 

[MarsM4N]

AMD Ryzen 9 7950X "Zen 4": 170W TDP / MSRP $699
Intel Core i9-13900K "Raptor Lake": 125-228W TPD / listed for $726

Will be a head to head battle. But I bet the performance/W crown goes to AMD.

 

[Mussels]

AMD Ryzen 9 7950X "Zen 4": 170W TDP / MSRP $699
Intel Core i9-13900K "Raptor Lake": 125-228W TPD / listed for $726

Will be a head to head battle. But I bet the performance/W crown goes to AMD.

careful, the 12th gen owners on the forum will argue with you and tell you that if they dont use all their cores, and use them at lower clock speeds that they're very efficient

(Look i cant understand their logic either)

 

[watzupken]

AMD Ryzen 9 7950X "Zen 4": 170W TDP / MSRP $699
Intel Core i9-13900K "Raptor Lake": 125-228W TPD / listed for $726

Will be a head to head battle. But I bet the performance/W crown goes to AMD.

The TDP are fake. I believe both AMD and Intel's upcoming CPUs will actually require more power than the supposed TDP. I am keeping tabs on Intel in particular because I am skeptical they can maintain or modestly increase power consumption with the changes on Raptor Lake and on the same 10nm node (whatever they name it). Essentially, they have increased cache substantially, doubled the E-cores, and aggressively increased clockspeed. All these requires more power, particularly with the core count and clock speed increase. Otherwise, there will not be the rumored 350W unlocked power limit.

careful, the 12th gen owners on the forum will argue with you and tell you that if they dont use all their cores, and use them at lower clock speeds that they're very efficient

(Look i cant understand their logic either)

Being a Zen 3 and Alder Lake user, ADL is indeed efficient when the load is light to moderate. However when the CPU is fully loaded, there is no doubt it starts to guzzle power. In games, not all cores are being utilized and at best moderate load for the CPU, so I believe the efficiency is comparable to Zen 3 since it is generally faster.

 

[Mussels]

The TDP are fake. I believe both AMD and Intel's upcoming CPUs will actually require more power than the supposed TDP. I am keeping tabs on Intel in particular because I am skeptical they can maintain or modestly increase power consumption with the changes on Raptor Lake and on the same 10nm node (whatever they name it). Essentially, they have increased cache substantially, doubled the E-cores, and aggressively increased clockspeed. All these requires more power, particularly with the core count and clock speed increase. Otherwise, there will not be the rumored 350W unlocked power limit.


Being a Zen 3 and Alder Lake user, ADL is indeed efficient when the load is light to moderate. However when the CPU is fully loaded, there is no doubt it starts to guzzle power. In games, not all cores are being utilized and at best moderate load for the CPU, so I believe the efficiency is comparable to Zen 3 since it is generally faster.

They're not fake - but they aren't total wattages either.
Remember that TDP is meant to be about thermals, not peak wattages.


There have been some very veeeery large discrepancies on some models, however

 

[1d10t]

I get the feeling AMD says we shouldnt use CPU-Z results


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They also listed Geekbench there, vague benchmark that suddenly became "crucial" or "noteworthy"