Legendary Overclocker KINGPIN Leaves EVGA and Joins PNY to Develop Next-Generation GPUs for Extreme OC

[Chomiq]

Somebody remind me what's the topic of this thread cause it's been derailed so hard.

 

[Caring1]

Something about a loose kingpin causing a derailment.

 

[nguyen]

It is only better for brainless fanboys, to have no competition and also no quality graphics cards brands. Only for blind fanboys or Nvidia's propaganda employees who just keep posting even when they %100 wrong.

Lol another toxic fanboy defending billion dollars company who happen to be the underdog.

Keep calling other people brainless fanboys and watch your beloved company lose even more .

I will take PNY gpu over EVGA any day

 

[lexluthermiester]

No idea why you are defending a dead brand

It's called being honest and truthful. Look into it.

if you had paid attention in middle school you should have known about survival of the fittest theory

Yes, I certainly did, in the 3rd grade. What was also taught about that theory is that it applies to wild-life. We humans, with our civilized ideals, are supposed to be above the absolute brutality of such notions. Clearly, civilized ideals are something unknown to you or you would understand that the reasons for EVGA's shutdown had little to nothing to do with silly opinions like those you have displayed in this thread.

 

[nguyen]

It's called being honest and truthful. Look into it.


Yes, I certainly did, in the 3rd grade. What was also taught about that theory is that it applies to wild-life. We humans, with our civilized ideals, are supposed to be above the absolute brutality of such notions. Clearly, civilized ideals are something unknown to you or you would understand that the reasons for EVGA's shutdown had little to nothing to do with silly opinions like those you have displayed in this thread.

Thanks for providing nothing of value to the thread beside pointless remarks

 

[lexluthermiester]

Lol another toxic fanboy defending billion dollars company who happen to be the underdog.

Keep calling other people brainless fanboys and watch your beloved company lose even more .

I will take PNY gpu over EVGA any day
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Wow, look at THAT! Your own graph shows just how good EVGA was compared to the competition. Interesting...
Having worked for Dell I can confirm that internal warranty turn-around-time policy was 8 business days or 10 calendar days, depending on weekends/holidays, whichever was shorter.

Thanks for providing nothing of value to the thread beside pointless remarks

I was calling you out on your continued nonsense. THAT is the value and contribution, to other readers. People need to know you're shoveling the muck about.

 

[nguyen]

Wow, look at THAT! You're own graph show just how good EVGA was compared to the competition. Interesting...
Having worked for Dell I can confirm that internal warranty turn-around-time policy was 8 business days or 10 calendar days, depending on weekends/holidays, whichever was shorter.

I guess some low-level employee like you wouldn't know about how people prefer reliability over shorter RMA time

 

[Xaled]

Lol another toxic fanboy defending billion dollars company who happen to be the underdog.

Keep calling other people brainless fanboys and watch your beloved company lose even more .

I will take PNY gpu over EVGA any day

A random study based on data and statistics of only 300 cards? Even it is outside of USA, your claim was that only people in US will feel its absence, EVGA did good though!
Random study's link

I guess some low-level employee like you wouldn't know about how people prefer reliability over shorter RMA time

reliability stats that are based on, hmm... 20 cards?

 

[nguyen]

A random study based on data and statistics of only 300 cards? Even it is outside of USA, your claim was that only people in US will feel its absence, EVGA did good though!
Random study's link


reliability stats that are based on, hmm... 20 cards?

English is my second language but at least I understand what at least means

 

[Xaled]

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English is my second language but at least I understand what at least means

I rounded 17.657 to 20 but your math is even worse that your logic and your English

 

[nguyen]

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I rounded 17.657 to 20 but your math is even worse that your logic and your English

Dude, have you passed high school math? If there were 20 cards sold for each brand, 1 return card means 5% RMA rate.

How do you think Asrock register 0.03% RMA if they only sold 20 cards

 

[lexluthermiester]

I guess some low-level employee like you wouldn't know about how people prefer reliability over shorter RMA time

Dude, have you passed high school math? If there were 20 cards sold for each brand, 1 return card means 5% RMA rate.

How do you think Asrock register 0.03% RMA if they only sold 20 cards

So this really is about ego for you, not about merit and factual info. Good to know and thanks for sharing that with everyone. Now we all know who NOT to take seriously.

 

[Xaled]

Dude, have you passed high school math? If there were 20 cards sold for each brand, 1 return card means 5% RMA rate.

How do you think Asrock register 0.03% RMA if they only sold 20 cards

it is not return rate, it is defected cards rate. We know nothing about RMA process as it says Not enough data for Asrock.
Maybe people were using it for mining and didnt even bother for RMA.

 

[nguyen]

it is not return rate, it is defected cards rate. We know nothing about RMA process as it says Not enough data for Asrock.
Maybe people were using it for mining and didnt even bother for RMA.

Oh so customers just complain to the retailer that their card has some defect and proceed to do nothing about it .

So my question on 4th grade math is: how many customers complain about ASrock if they sold 20 cards? 0.06 person?

 

[freeagent]

This thread is for Vince, not for your infantile bickering.

Please stop.

 

[Xaled]

Oh so customers just complain to the retailer that their card has some defect and proceed to do nothing about it .

So my question on 4th grade math is: how many customers complain about ASrock if they sold 20 cards? 0.06 person?

it says at least 300 but it doesn't say per brand. Even if its it means that only 1 of 300 Asrock users reported a defected card but we don't what what happened after that. We even dont know what is the real percentage of defected card and most importantly did those get a replacement? a refund or etc. we just don't know. This what matters most.

 

[:D:D]

Yes, however it was within about the last 2 years at most.

Thought it was about a year, time flies. Doesn't sound nice being laid off, hopefully they have all found something as good or better.

 

[evernessince]

People still believe this? It only occurred when debug wireframe mode was switched on which disabled all geometry culling. There was no “over tessellation” or an ocean under the entire map during normal gameplay.

https://forum.beyond3d.com/threads/...500-6600-6700-6800-6900-xt.62091/post-2176158

https://forum.beyond3d.com/threads/...ble-for-benchmarking-spawn.58013/post-1945803

Two problems:

1) Turning geometry culling off would have zero impact on the fact that individual objects are still vastly over-tessellated. You are only addressing the undermap claims, not the over-tessellation claims If you keep reading the thread you can see other users are naturally suspicious of said claims:

"LOD levels according to distance are unknown, and there's also no reason why the models on simple geometry like concrete slabs would ever need to have that ridiculously complex geometry in the first place.
I.e. if those tessellation levels and geometry complexity were never going to be used, why would they be there in the first place?"

2) You do realize the same guy you quoted twice provides zero evidence and is just a random poster right? It's worthless to quote another random user who can't even back up their claims with evidence.

It's ironic because once again the people arguing against him do provide another source against that argument that in fact it is/was a thing: https://techreport.com/review/crysis-2-tessellation-too-much-of-a-good-thing/

"Crytek’s decision to deploy gratuitous amounts of tessellation in places where it doesn’t make sense is frustrating, because they’re essentially wasting GPU power"

I don't know how anyone could argue that this isn't an issue when we know for a fact that limiting tessellation fixes this issue.

EDIT **

Just saw the mod post. This is my last comment on this thread @freeagent

 

[Godrilla]

What ever happened to Tin?

 

[Chomiq]

What ever happened to Tin?

Vince actually mentions him in the GN video, he's working in a company that specifies in manufacturing precise measuring tools, like on below micron level of accuracy.

Timestamped:

 

[Godrilla]

Vince actually mentions him in the GN video, he's working in a company that specifies in manufacturing precise measuring tools, like on below micron level of accuracy.

Timestamped:

Thanks just subbed to his new yt channel.

 

[Max(IT)]

The only sad thing here is that Paris New York is Nvidia exclusive again...

I would love to see Radeon done by Kingpin too.

Radeon are irrelevant

Why join a sinking ship ?

… especially right after abandoning another sinking vessel ( EVGA)

 

[kiddagoat]

I can’t recall the last time a news article derailed this badly…. I would recommend this topic locked or remove some of the off-topic comments…. Holy cow

 

[Godrilla]

Radeon are irrelevant


… especially right after abandoning another sinking vessel ( EVGA)

It's true, but no one seen EVGA's end coming. Interesting how he picked another Nvidia exclusive vendor to work with.
Unfortunately AMD is making their own brand irrelevant at the high end and believes maybe gamers will be desperate enough to take them back with rdna 5. Will their strategy backfire when they are the primary reason for Blackwell likely price swelling across the board?
While I am critical of them I am also hopeful they can be competetive at the high end once more for a market price correction sooner than later. If Battlemage's rt performance will be superior than rdna 4 their plan will backfire like wildfire! Imo.

 

[Hecate91]

It's true, but no one seen EVGA's end coming. Interesting how he picked another Nvidia exclusive vendor to work with.
Unfortunately AMD is making their own brand irrelevant at the high end and believes maybe gamers will be desperate enough to take them back with rdna 5. Will their strategy backfire when they are the primary reason for Blackwell likely price swelling across the board?
While I am critical of them I am also hopeful they can be competetive at the high end once more for a market price correction sooner than later. If Battlemage's rt performance will be superior than rdna 4 their plan will backfire like wildfire! Imo.

I've had EVGA cards and it was really my only reason for sticking with nvidia cards, every other nvidia aib brand has a lackluster warranty, either not allowing gpu disassembly or a non-transferable warranty. IMO RDNA3 could've been better, but i think it's still impressive for their first attempt at a chiplet consumer gpu.
I'm not too surprised he went with PNY, they are one of the closest brands to nvidia and the oem making quadro cards. I hope Kingpin is successful in bringing PNY into a competitive level with Asus and MSI high end cards. Although high end OC cards are becoming a very limited niche as nvidia keeps restriciting what overclocking can be done even with physical mods to the card.
AMD was already mostly irrelevant in the high end at least to those who are always going to buy the x90 level of card anyway. AMD hasn't competed with Nvidia in the high end in years and it makes no sense for them to waste billions on trying to bring a high end card to the market, when Nvidia can just cut a chunk from their massive compute dies and beat AMD without even really trying. And then you have all the tech press finding something to bash AMD on, like not having proprietary features like DLSS or frame gen, or power consumption even though no one seemed to care when the RTX 30 series consumed more power.
If Blackwell has a significant price increase, the fault is on nvidia for that one, its well known Jensen decides what the price is on launch day. Nvidia doesn't care what AMD does as they have over 80% of the market now, and IMO its on consumers who paid inflated prices during the crypto boom and keep paying Nvidia even though they shifted the whole stack down a tier yet prices up a whole tier.
And Intel Battlemage would a be a massive if, even if Battlemage can catch up in RT performance, their drivers are still very hit or miss and Intel has a long way to go if they want to catch up to AMD and Nvidia.