Lets talk PC Audio

[MarsM4N]

so i have to ask why is it so complicated connecting surround sound to lets say a gameing laptop that dosent have any dolby software besides for built in speakers? hdmi is supported fully with 5.1-7.1 spdif i can force to do full 5.1 anythang really but in order to make my pc do all of that it took almost 3 long painful exhasting years only found a software solution that works on my pc after finding apo drivers on this form to use dolby digital plus home theater that enabled bitstreaming on any device i want and now i get full 5.1 anythang out of a usb to toslink connection if thats possible why not make it eaiser aswell if open source formats are out thare like lpcm why not make a soundcard with only open soruce software its fully possible why has no one done it? im still trying to learn this world obvi XD

That's because Dolby or DTS isn't "open source", meaning the software has to pay to implement it.

The same reason why you can't play copy protected blu-ray DVD's on Windows out of the box or with VLC. For that you have to pay for CyberLink PowerDVD or something else.

 

[nicegirl05]

That's because Dolby or DTS isn't "open source", meaning the software has to pay to implement it.

The same reason why you can't play copy protected blu-ray DVD's on Windows out of the box or with VLC. For that you have to pay for CyberLink PowerDVD or something else.

i hate the fact humans caused so many problems by makeing systems in life around papper fucking green papper

That's because Dolby or DTS isn't "open source", meaning the software has to pay to implement it.

The same reason why you can't play copy protected blu-ray DVD's on Windows out of the box or with VLC. For that you have to pay for CyberLink PowerDVD or something else.

however if you know of any cool projects that are opensource for 5.1 surround sound from a usb to optical connection please dm me

 

[Octopuss]

so i have to ask why is it so complicated connecting surround sound to lets say a gameing laptop that dosent have any dolby software besides for built in speakers? hdmi is supported fully with 5.1-7.1 spdif i can force to do full 5.1 anythang really but in order to make my pc do all of that it took almost 3 long painful exhasting years only found a software solution that works on my pc after finding apo drivers on this form to use dolby digital plus home theater that enabled bitstreaming on any device i want and now i get full 5.1 anythang out of a usb to toslink connection if thats possible why not make it eaiser aswell if open source formats are out thare like lpcm why not make a soundcard with only open soruce software its fully possible why has no one done it? im still trying to learn this world obvi XD

Is this one sentence or?...

 

[nicegirl05]

Is this one sentence or?...

its my thoughts im not great with grammer due to learning issues as a kid just try to bare with me u can still read the words

 

[nicegirl05]

i wonder if anyone elts still uses pceee4 or more known as dolby digital plus home theater dolby digital home theater v4 and advance audio v2 in 2024 i just started useing a modified version to install on any pc i love it so far the fact that i finally have dsu without the need for a av reciver is wild iv basically turned my laptop into a surround av reciver a desktop gameing system with dual monitors when i unplug my tv and plug in my gameing monitor a emulation power house dumping all of my old childhood games onto it and the perfect smart tv for when i want streaming services idk why anyone uses smart tvs or rokus anymore your basic windows pc can do so much more today

 

[Consumer_alex]

i just started useing a modified version

And what exactly you started? Could you please share?

 

[nicegirl05]

And what exactly you started? Could you please share?

i did not make it nor did i claim to i said i started useing it again i started useing a application its a abondoned project thats no longer being worked on https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/making-audio-enhancers-work-on-windows.244309/ i ended up just switching to a soundbar with hdmi in and out so i dont have to use optical anymore even useing enhancements and equlizers and all of these fancy thangs optical still fuckin sucks compaired to hdmi

 

[SchumannFrequency]

I have a Pioneer CD player but over the years the sound it produces has become very dull and no longer fun to listen to.

Of Vinyl records I find that they usually sound remarkably less correct than CDs.
Unless with some specific (rare) quality turntable setups that manage to approach CD quality.

I have a packard bell dot s which was very cheap, around 250 EUR. On the analog connection it can still produce reasonably good sound via BSD/Linux.
windows10/11 does not run on this Intel Atom 32 bit 1GB RAM netbook. But BSD and Linux currently run better than the windows 7 starter OS that was preinstalled.

I made a recording here of this packard bell N450 1GB RAM netbook: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VAXoQfIln7_-lI1TpedrOXRXJUpki_fc/view

 

[nicegirl05]

I have a Pioneer CD player but over the years the sound it produces has become very dull and no longer fun to listen to.

Of Vinyl records I find that they usually sound remarkably less correct than CDs.
Unless with some specific (rare) quality turntable setups that manage to approach CD quality.

I have a packard bell dot s which was very cheap, around 250 EUR. On the analog connection it can still produce reasonably good sound via BSD/Linux.
windows10/11 does not run on this Intel Atom 32 bit 1GB RAM netbook. But BSD and Linux currently run better than the windows 7 starter OS that was preinstalled.

I made a recording here of this packard bell N450 1GB RAM netbook: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VAXoQfIln7_-lI1TpedrOXRXJUpki_fc/view

have u tryed cleaning the laser of the cd player itelf? alot of times they collect dust and after awhile can still read disks but not amazingly u may have picture or audio artifacts

 

[Dr. Dro]

have u tryed cleaning the laser of the cd player itelf? alot of times they collect dust and after awhile can still read disks but not amazingly u may have picture or audio artifacts

No, dust would not deteriorate sound quality, it would cause it to skip since CDs are fully digital systems. The laser reads what's imprinted on the disc and produces an uncompressed PCM bitstream in red book format, that is, 44.1 kHz (44100 samples per second), signed 16 bits per sample per channel at 1.4 Mbps (1411.2 kilobits per second to be exact). Dull sound is caused by capacitor aging, noise in the analog stage (after the DAC, possibly caused by bad power supply), and possibly damaged speakers (deteriorated material, a blown tweeter or holes caused by bugs).

Note that by "bitstream" i mean the flow of digital data (0s and 1s), and not codecs as it has become colloquially known in the audio space

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[taka]

If a CD player can read the TOC and start to play first track then no dust issue (as long as the media is not damaged). Dust in CD player optics (lenses and prism) will make the media un-readable.
If the sound is dull then something else changed paramaters in the signal processing. Analog side can do lots of issues, but ussualy distorted, poping,hum and other analog signal issues.

Me i'm 48 now and i listen to music all the time but my ears started to show their age, high pitch sound it's not that clear as it used to be some years ago. I have to push up the EQ in order to compensate.

 

[SchumannFrequency]

have u tryed cleaning the laser of the cd player itelf? alot of times they collect dust and after awhile can still read disks but not amazingly u may have picture or audio artifacts

I have a Sony CD player that I have used much more frequently and it still sounds as clear as ever.
The Pioneer has been little used but still gives dull sound.
It does not sound like dust sitting on the laser but rather a gradual deterioration of rapidly degrading components.

I had the same problem with my Kenwood Hi-Fi chain whose receiver/cd player/tape player/fm radio is made in Singapore and the speakers are made in Indonesia.
The speakers sounded duller every year and for many years now are at the point where I would rather not listen to them anymore.
Whereas my Infinity speakers have yet to noticeably degrade with much more intense use.

When I put a tape in the Kenwood recently it could not play it.
I wanted to try another tape and pressed the button to open the tape slot but for no reason the button decided not to work anymore.
The tape is going to be stuck in the unit forever.
The volume of the unit can suddenly go very loud if you try to turn it down.
The CD player of this Kenwood Hi-Fi chain was designed in such a way that it would only keep working if you never use it.

Kenwood although the company still exists was actually poor quality in every area.
This was an expensive Hi-Fi system that should still work perfectly after twenty years.

Looking at reviews of Pioneer DVD players, my impression is that they are similar in quality and durability to my old Kenwood system.
reviews #1

Amazon.com

reviews #2

Amazon.com

 

[nexAdok]

One question guys I installed apo driver to have 5.1 in spidf output realtek integrated port of motherboard intel z390 aorus elite

For most games works great and films are all perfect but when i use spotify premium paid sound lose a lot of power Ithink its because DDlive try to convert spotify signal to 5.1 but im not sure

All time i have to go to panel control and enable disable dolby digital for spotify or games/films its annopying

I attache image of my config for each case

And my system its a soundbar 5.1 L R Center are the soundbar and L R surround sattleites i have at my back with subwwofer and im not sure if i have config it well.

I would like to have passthrough when dolby sound detected and pcm for other signals, I attach a third image of config of that.

Soundbar its ultimea poseidon d60

It is atmos compatible only through eArc port something I dont have in my pc monitor

Thats why using spidf

Thanks you a lot if read everything

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

it's not that clear as it used to be some years ago.

That, for me, is a sign that I need to get wax-build-up out of my ears! Literally! That happens to me a lot! I'll be lucky to go 6 months before I have to get wax out of my ears.

It don't help that I have small ear canals, LOL.