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LG Launches the UltraGear OLED With 240 Hz Refresh Rate

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Dell doesn't produce own OLED Panels, cough.


II have 2 OLED TVs at home, one of them is several years old.

That's grand and all but I burned out two LG panels before going with a Sony who yes I know buys from LG.

The thing is LG as a brand for OLED is a hot mess budget option.
 

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That's grand and all but I burned out two LG panels before going with a Sony who yes I know buys from LG.

The thing is LG as a brand for OLED is a hot mess budget option.
Must have been older models. Because lately LG have been catching flask for their ABL, so burn-in is pretty much in check. Sony's still better than most, so I guess you're good.
 
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1 year warranty is a dealbreaker at this price.
I agree, pathetic if you can't guarantee something like this for at least 2 years. In Australia though the statutory warranty is the bare minimum. You can easily get something repalced outside of warranty like a TV as the our consumer laws say you should have a reasonable expectation for a device not to fail with x amount of years and x depends on the product type and cost. So if you TV had a 1 year statutory warranty and blew up after 24 months you would have a good case to get it replaced. US consumer laws seem a joke.
 

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I want a monitor and not a TV, because despite how good gaming TV's have gotten a monitor is at least warrantied and tested for long term PC use.

I agree, pathetic if you can't guarantee something like this for at least 2 years. In Australia though the statutory warranty is the bare minimum. You can easily get something repalced outside of warranty like a TV as the our consumer laws say you should have a reasonable expectation for a device not to fail with x amount of years and x depends on the product type and cost. So if you TV had a 1 year statutory warranty and blew up after 24 months you would have a good case to get it replaced. US consumer laws seem a joke.
Buy through somewhere like harvey norman with the extended warranty and you just get in-store credit if they die, absolutely worth it on TV's and monitors (but not much else)

I think i'm on my third TV with the original extended warranty, zero issues upsizing and changing brands each time

Uhm, who uses their monitor at 100% brightness?
with OLED i believe that's just being paranoid that something that's heavy on the white like TPU wont burn out pixels, or result in the display going "night time!" and darkening it for you

Good luck trying to drive 4K at 240 Hz.
I mean, I capped my FPS to 165 but I certainly can

If the samsung neo G8 can do 4K 240hz with DSC, other brands can too - but i dont expect that tech to be implemented on gaming TV's since consoles wont support it for years
 
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The thing is LG as a brand for OLED is a hot mess budget option.
BS.

(nearly?) ALL TVs, including those sold under Sony premium brand, are manufactured by LG.
 
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BS.

(nearly?) ALL TVs, including those sold under Sony premium brand, are manufactured by LG.
I see you didn't read the comment in its entirety. Aside from that when someone else can take your product and make it better through their touches... it says a lot.
 
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BS.

(nearly?) ALL TVs, including those sold under Sony premium brand, are manufactured by LG.
You're confusing LG Display with LG Electronics. LG Display makes the WOLED panels and then sells them to their customers, so Sony, Panasonic, Philips, etc and also LG Electronics. Either way no Sony tv's are "manufactured" by LG.

It's the same thing with Samsung TV's - panels are made by Samsung Display while TV's are made by Samsung Electronics. Samsung Display sells their QD-OLED panels to Samsung Electronics and to Sony.
 
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Either way no Sony tv's are "manufactured" by LG.
OLED panels used in LG and Sony and Panasonic an Philips and probably other brands I've never encountered, including those in the most premium models are manufactured by LG.

Just realized that my oldest OLED TV is more than 5 years old.

someone else can take your product and make it better through their touches
Organic LED degrading over time is an inherent issue of the technology, there is no magic way to completely avoid it, but it takes some criminal energy to turn it into issue on modern TVs. (and I even have an older one) Or some idiocy, e.g. forcefully running multiple "refresh"-es in a row.

Looks like intensive FUD campaign by the inventors of overpriced and surprisingly power hungry QLED bazinga.
 

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BS.

(nearly?) ALL TVs, including those sold under Sony premium brand, are manufactured by LG.
Panels, yes. TVs, no.

Electronics behind a panel matter A LOT.
 
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BS.

(nearly?) ALL TVs, including those sold under Sony premium brand, are manufactured by LG.
OLED panels used in LG and Sony and Panasonic an Philips and probably other brands I've never encountered, including those in the most premium models are manufactured by LG.
Now do you see the difference?
 
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Now do you see the difference?
I think that means he did not see the difference.

Never mind, you tried. He apparently thinks Sony TVs (the whole TV - including electronics, firmware, and power supply) are manufactured by LG and cannot be convinced otherwise, no matter how bat-shit crazy that concept is to begin with...
 

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Panels, yes. TVs, no.

Electronics behind a panel matter A LOT.
I've got two monitors side bv side with the same panel tech, and they're words apart just from the simplest of tech differences: The exposed UI settings and the DP/HDMI connectors

The second one (phillips) has cheaped out soldering that results in fun rainbow stripes on cold boots at 144Hz, so despite being the same VA panel and almost the same specs, they're totally different in the real world for reliability and functionality
 
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Sony TVs (the whole TV - including electronics, firmware, and power supply) are manufactured by LG
Ah, that's what your imaginary opponent thinks.
Good to know.

And how pathetic.

There is not much electronics could do against static burn-in.
It pretty much comes down to detecting and dimming static portions of the screen, something OLED TVs do from the day 1.


It is also ironic to own a bunch of OLED devices, two of them by LG and argue with some random internet dude who was impressed by a random youtuber's "findings".
 
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Ah, that's what your imaginary opponent thinks.
Good to know.

And how pathetic.

There is not much electronics could do against static burn-in.
It pretty much comes down to detecting and dimming static portions of the screen, something OLED TVs do from the day 1.


It is also ironic to own a bunch of OLED devices, two of them by LG and argue with some random internet dude who was impressed by a random youtuber's "findings".
I'm quoting you directly. Are you saying you're imaginary?
I'm also not sure there are many other people who would call Linus Sebastian 'a random Youtuber'. That's like calling Bill Gates "a random software developer"...
 
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Ah, that's what your imaginary opponent thinks.
Good to know.

And how pathetic.

There is not much electronics could do against static burn-in.
It pretty much comes down to detecting and dimming static portions of the screen, something OLED TVs do from the day 1.


It is also ironic to own a bunch of OLED devices, two of them by LG and argue with some random internet dude who was impressed by a random youtuber's "findings".
So... Now you need to own a particular TV set to be able to tell Sony's TVs are not made by LG? That's rich.
 
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I'm quoting you directly. Are you saying you're imaginary?
I've never said anything about "all electronics in TV", you need help if you still "read" it.

I'm also not sure there are many other people who would call Linus Sebastian 'a random Youtuber'.
He is a pop star of tech reviews.

TV set reviews is something quite specific, he is literally zero in that field.

But at least good to know which random youtuber fed you with that FUD.
 

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BS.

(nearly?) ALL TVs, including those sold under Sony premium brand, are manufactured by LG.

I've never said anything about "all electronics in TV", you need help if you still "read" it.
Unless TV means something else than the whole case, panel, electronics and everything to you, yeah, you did.
Or maybe you meant TV panels in that first post. Then we're good.
 
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I've never said anything about "all electronics in TV", you need help if you still "read" it.
You literally said "(nearly?) ALL TVs, including those sold under Sony premium brand, are manufactured by LG."
You said TVs, not OLED panels. The difference includes electronics, firmware, power delivery - and lets see what you have to say about the electronics....

...Oh hey, here is it!
There is not much electronics could do against static burn-in.
Electronics behind a panel matter A LOT.
We know from plenty of sources that LG-branded OLED TVs burn in, whilst Sony/Philips TVs of the same era using the same or similar LG-Display OLED panels do not. The problem isn't the panels, it's the way those panels and driven and managed.

As for Linus being a TV n00b, sure - but there are people in this thread complaining of their LG OLED burn-in, including me. Linus was just one example I quoted alongside OLED burn-in tests by RTINGs, presumably RTINGS are not TV n00bs according to you too? Or are you just cherry-picking stuff out of context to try and dig yourself out of a hole you've dug for yourself?
 
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You literally said "(nearly?) ALL TVs, including those sold under Sony premium brand, are manufactured by LG."
You said TVs, not OLED panels.
You need help...

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know from plenty of sources
With your amazing reading comprehension skills, one would wonder...
 
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With your amazing reading comprehension skills, one would wonder...
In terms of reading comprehension, try chronology. This argument all started with post #80 when others called you out on it.
The real nonsense from you is post #90 where you say electronics don't matter. We still haven't had a coherent take from you on that point because you're far too preoccupied with pedantic bickering.
I'm waiting.
 
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