Linux Developers Threaten to Pull "Kill Switch"

[medi01]

Do you have a statistically relevant sample?

"Do you have a bunch of peer reviewed articles to disprove my 'right out of ass' comment?".

Sure thing, there are plenty of researchers committing wrongthink and questioning SJW agenda, unpunished, no problem with that at all, not like it would be censored or something:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1038805168870096896

Hard to block stats, sample size of 1.6 million:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1045100085766311936

"No no, our identity politics is not wrong, the evil patriarchy fails to fail girls on average, but manages to fail only those on the top.
Oh, and even in non STEM fields? Jesus, those men are evil"

Pathetic...

Without going into the other two... what the hell does sexual orientation have to do with a job? That literally should not matter, or be anywhere near a job application form.

Yes, and who the f*ck knows your gender/race/color/penis size/vagina metrics/whom do you find attractive/whom do you f*ck/who f*cks you, in a freaking online open source project.

But the goal of the mentioned "project" is to increase number of "united oppressed" presence in open source community, because,, uh, they should be "underrepresented", perhaps.

Oh, another fun fact, wikipedia. Only 13% of editors are female. On a bloody site that anyone can edit, without even registering.
Something very very evil is going on.

Oh, and Uber's computers rig system so that in a totally gender-neutral system female Uber drivers earn 7% less than male Uber drivers.

Oh, and women spend more money than men. Never mind, that doesn't quite fit "oppressed" agenda.

 

[AlwaysHope]

I found this most insightful in to today's polarized political group think throughout the USA.

 

[DimBo]

"The Contributor Covenant is an agreement to implement a special Code of Conduct aimed at changing the predominantly white, straight, and male face of programming. "
To put things straight: they want some people to lose their jobs only because those people happen to be white straight males, did I get that right? Isn't that racism and sexism simultaneously? How come people who wrote that "Covenant" didn't get sued for that?

 

[StrayKAT]

Some Harvard researchers released a study where even they concede that a large number of people dislike political correctness. Americans at least. But I find it difficult to believe it's any different for Europe (and especially Asia)... at least among average citizens. It's the tyranny of a very small segment.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/a...orities-dislike-political-correctness/572581/

 

[FordGT90Concept]

"The Contributor Covenant is an agreement to implement a special Code of Conduct aimed at changing the predominantly white, straight, and male face of programming. "
To put things straight: they want some people to lose their jobs only because those people happen to be white straight males, did I get that right? Isn't that racism and sexism simultaneously? How come people who wrote that "Covenant" didn't get sued for that?

Why would she? Freedom of speech and all that. The people actually doing the firing are the ones that could get sued if there's evidence of discrimination in the firing.

 

[R-T-B]

"Do you have a bunch of peer reviewed articles to disprove my 'right out of ass' comment?".

What comment was right out of my ass? The one asking for a larger sample to support your dubious claim? That's pretty good science, in general. Thanks for oblidging. Too bad it doesn't support your original hypothesis (that coders in general can't control themselves in public) but rather is a sort of generalized shotgun style rant against "SJW agendas." Something I said nothing about.

Oh, and thanks for keeping it mature and impersonal. /s

Let me quote you:

Pathetic.

Yes, and who the f*ck knows your gender/race/color/penis size/vagina metrics/whom do you find attractive/whom do you f*ck/who f*cks you, in a freaking online open source project.

I really doubt your claimed work experience based on claims like this. I certainly have been asked personal questions in any social work context I've been in longterm, online open source projects included. It's bizzare but to try to deny it happens is folly.

Some Harvard researchers released a study where even they concede that a large number of people dislike political correctness.

Well, duh. Of course the majority is going to feel like they always have the right to kick the minorities in any given situation. Even if they don't phrase it that way, this is nothing new.

 

[Vya Domus]

Lets take the recently deceased Terry A Davis. The creator of TempleOS. This guy was completely off his rocker (schizophrenic), toxic on levels rarely seen... and thus, people didn't work with him.

You should mention the other side as well. His viewers made everything in their power such that he becomes as toxic as possible. You shouldn't use him as an example, the guy was mentally ill and surrounded by trolls and no lifers that had nothing better to do than bait him to say/do dumb shit.

I can't fathom why females and males would code any differently (or race.. or orientation)... assuming they had the same education.

There are reasons, actually. But they are typically too taboo to mention in this day and age, which is ironic because we are supposedly now trying to base everything on scientific methods.

 

[OneMoar]

and kyle wonders why nobody wants to be on HardOCP

 

[StrayKAT]

You should mention the other side as well. His viewers made everything in their power such that he becomes as toxic as possible. You shouldn't use him as an example, the guy was mentally ill and surrounded by trolls and no lifers that had nothing better to do than bait him to say/do dumb shit.

I almost forgot who you were quoting about. Terry Davis, right?

Tbh, I've had my bouts with illness as well..Or at least, the doctors said so. I'm still dubious..but had to put up with hospitalization all the same. I never have seemed to have had it on those levels though. I sometimes wonder where bad character and mental illness begins/ends.

 

[Vya Domus]

Tbh, I've had my bouts with illness as well..Or at least, the doctors said so. I'm still dubious..but had to put up with hospitalization all the same. I never have seemed to have had it on those levels though. I sometimes wonder where bad character and mental illness begins/ends.

He had serious problems, used to watch his streams, fascinating but sad at the same thing.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Well, duh. Of course the majority is going to feel like they always have the right to kick the minorities in any given situation. Even if they don't phrase it that way, this is nothing new.

That's not what political correctness is. Political correctness is someone point to a white washed picket fence and someone else shouting "that's racist." No, it's white washed picket fence. It's not a statement on race at all. But now everyone has to paint their white picket fences some other color because it's political incorrect to paint it white.

I mostly concur with the article. Only thing I would dispute is calling "traditional conservatives" the "far right." They are not. "Progressive activists" push so far left that they're forced to take a stand.

 

[OneMoar]

That's not what political correctness is. Political correctness is someone point to a white washed picket fence and someone else shouting "that's racist." No, it's white washed picket fence. It's not a statement on race at all.

this comment is racist my fences are green! I DEMAND EQUALITY

 

[StrayKAT]

He had serious problems, used to watch his streams, fascinating but sad at the same thing.

Like Jim says in that Internet Insanity vid, it's a shame what Terry could have been. It's quite a feat to make your own OS.. even if it's 640x480

 

[eidairaman1]

and who wouldt be? Linus may be the founding father but he is no saint. There are equally qualified core team members. The dude is straight hostile.

As for the CoC I'm not worried about it honestly. I agree with @FordGT90Concept I read the CoC and this is pretty standard. Not to mention givin the fluidity of linux if someone steps out then someone else that is willing to abide will step in to take the function on.

The reality is this affects Linux in almost no way. There wasnt drama to begin with from what little I've seen. Only the occasional rant by Linus on kernel commits. Not to mention again. Even if a bunch of devs leave they will just mainline fork. A pure mainline fork will probably only happen in the event of "mass walkout" which isn't likely but if it did happen they would more then likely just all go to the mainline fork that isn't overseen by the linux foundation.

and Lest we forget people like conical, suse, RHEL, BSD. Dont take upstream commits to core code as the gospel those modifications are looked over by there respective teams before being available in the REPOS.

Hostility comes from Arrogance, there were 2 others that way...

Bill and Steve.

 

[OneMoar]

Hostility comes from Arrogance, there were 2 others that way...

Bill and Steve.

except there net worths where in the billions linus's is 150m

 

[StrayKAT]

Hostility comes from Arrogance, there were 2 others that way...

Bill and Steve.

What I really despise is how the media parades Bill around, like he's one of the saviors of humanity. There was an article just NOW that popped up on my Mozilla "trending" start page talking to Gates about the state of the world, poverty, his foundation, etc..

I actually like Microsoft, for the most part.. but I'm not forgetful or deluded about his treatment of other people, just for the sake of business advantages.

They don't even do this to Steve Jobs. He's kind of honestly written about more often, for some reason.

 

[eidairaman1]

You're not wrong..

Only the "woke" get riled up. The rest of us have a chuckle.

Exactly. Facebook has become little more than cesspool run by a bunch of whiny special-snowflake retards who can't tell the difference between their butt and a hole in the ground and frequently have their heads lodged firmly in both.

Then there's some of us who just don't care because..

..of this.

Oh, you have that backwards. If someone is offended, for whatever reason, they have the problem. If they actually communicate and share the problem with you, that opens the door to a resolution. But in the end regardless of what you did/said, the one offended is the one with the problem, even if the offending action was deliberate. Instead of letting things roll off like water on a duck's back they allow offense to occur. This is always a sign of a lack of mental, emotional or psychological development.

TRUTH! High 5

 

[R-T-B]

That's not what political correctness is.

Political correctness is in and of itself an illdefined, vague term.

This seems a popular type of group to use when complaining about something, frankly. It does of course, enable you to always maintain it's "someone else" as needed, so, I get it.

But they are typically too taboo to mention in this day and age,

Part of what I was taught is that "not seeing color or gender is prejudice. You should cherish the different backgrounds and unique strengths"

But I'm a hippie. Disregard me.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/politically correct

conforming to a belief that language and practices which could offend political sensibilities (as in matters of sex or race) should be eliminated

People choose to take offense.

 

[StrayKAT]

Political correctness is in and of itself an illdefined, vague term.

This seems a popular type of group to use when complaining about something, frankly. It does of course, enable you to always maintain it's "someone else" as needed, so, I get it.



Part of what I was taught is that "not seeing color or gender is prejudice. You should cherish the different backgrounds and unique strengths"

But I'm a hippie. Disregard me.

Not everyone is a "background". Hardly anyone is especially in America. And if you're focused on race, it's no better than national socialists, whose WHOLE argument centers on this. They argue that people are defined by genetic distinctions - screw anything about character.

You could even share many political values with these extreme right wing types, except with one distinction -- that you define yourself as a "civic nationalist".. where you believe in similar things like patriotism, law and order, and even voted for Trump, etc.. and they will STILL lambast you because you didn't call out the "Jew". Or you like hanging around black folks. Or you ARE black.. or hispanic or Asian. These people don't care about abstracts or individuals. Just race. And they especially don't want a world where there's more race mixing, and therefore, less individual thinkers. They want a world where you only see race, and everyone is segregated in their neat little categories. Like you apparently.

Hippies were not helpful imo. If they didn't implode into some Manson family like horror show, then it was just implosion on drugs. And if they made past that, then it was broken families. And after the ashes settled, I get a brain damaged David Crosby or Brian Wilson wannabe telling me how great it was to be at Woodstock. No thanks. The only worthwhile legacy of the 60s was MLK Jr. His counterpart (Malcolm X) was hung up on race.. but even he finally got wise.. until his own people killed him.

 

[Solaris17]

We have an editorial on the subject located here.

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/...stice-warfare-a-great-purge-is-coming.247870/

Which is the only place we are tolerating political discussions at this time which are against the forum rules HERE