Maps, science, data & statistics tracking of COVID-19

[lexluthermiester]

Parasites aren't viruses. Parasites are organisms living inside of bigger organisms. Viruses are "extremely complex molecules."

Ivermectin is an FDA-approved anti-parasitic drug also shown to be effective in vitro against viruses including HIV, dengue and influenza.

Ivermectin - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[FordGT90Concept]

That quote is from the terribly sourced News.com.au website.

Only relevant quote on Wikipedia:

Ivermectin is also being studied as a potential antiviral agent against the chikungunya and yellow fever.[72]

72. https://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0166354215300516
That paper was published 2016 and the full paper isn't available so can't even see what they're talking about other than testing effectiveness against "chikungunya and other alphaviruses." Coronaviruses aren't of the alphavirus genus.

Coronaviruses are from the order Nidovirales (Latin for "nest").
Alphaviruses haven't been given an order.


This is the brand name for Ivermectin in the USA:

Stromectol (Ivermectin): Side Effects, Uses, Dosage, Interactions, Warnings

Stromectol (Ivermectin) may treat, side effects, dosage, drug interactions, warnings, patient labeling, reviews, and related medications including drug comparison and health resources.

www.rxlist.com

They list all the manufacturer notices required by the FDA. Let's see if there's anything in here about viruses...

1 of 1...and it's ad about coronavirus. FDA did not approve that drug for antiviral uses.

There are 9 references on the page for being an anti-parasitic drug.



This is Chloroquine all over again.

 

[R-T-B]

Its better than nothing because people's mood is a direct threat to stability, and its well known we view the mask as 'helpful'.

Not how they phrased it at all.

What's actually better than anything is to stay away from everybody apart from those in you're own household

Well, yeah, obviously.

 

[HTC]

Of course, because most viruses can not get through the barrier in the placenta.(or something like that, have seen a documentary about human evolution and it was explained there.)

Also, i do not want to make this pandemic irrelevant, but i think it is blown way out if proportion, intentionally! If you look at the mortality rate and the people it affects it looks harmless compared to even something like the common seasonal flu. Just for comparison, the common flu killed over 1.000.000 people this year globally, Covid19 killed 60.000. Let that number sink in. And now think about what it did to the global economy.

Try and find out how many people the flu sent to the hospital, and for how long, VS how many COVID-19 did, in the same time frame: that's the KEY difference. Also, there's medicine that works for the flu but, so far, nothing that works for COVID-19.

Unlike the flu, this virus has the SERIOUS potential to collapse the nation's health services, if left unchecked, and that's what governments are so desperately trying to avoid.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Speaking from experience: flu sends people to ER but they dismiss them right away unless (rarely) they developed pneumonia or some other complications (e.g. need IV fluids because of vomiting).

COVID-19 is the same but the incidents of pneumonia is much, much, much higher which may require hospitalization.

I think the better way to think of it is in terms of average hours spent by healthcare professionals on specific cases. Flu is really low where COVID-19 is really high. People with IV only need interaction when going to bathroom (because of all the machines and tubes) or when the bag needs changing. People that are on ventilators need constant observation and adjustment. If the machine fails for too long or the bodies oxygen needs change, the window to address it before irreparable damage is done is very short (minutes).


As we've already seen, contagious pneumonia (what COVID-19 effectively is) is about the most effective way to overwhelm healthcare systems. Treatment isn't particularly complicated but the duration of stay (days, even weeks) and the specific needs (oxygen, ventilators) of the patient are extremely draining.

 

[Flanker]

Update on New Zealand: Confirmed + Probable. 10 people are hospitalized.

 

[Tatty_Two]

Now this is seriously worrying...

Coronavirus may spread through normal breathing: US scientists

This was discussed on a breakfast programme in the UK this morning, when I first heard the news I thought that maybe my personal stance on the effectiveness of a face mask might change, then the programme had a professor of virology on, I think he is from Switzerland and recognised as one of the world's leading experts, he simply said "how does a non medical facemask stop droplets entering the eyes?" It left me kind of cold as he said it's as likely to enter the eyes as anywhere else if there is contamination in a persons immediate area, so it didn't change my mind in the end.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

I doubt coronaviruses can even enter the blood through the eyes. Eyes tend to be an out-only thing.

Seems like it enters the blood through the lungs. Never heard of it entering any other way. Even with touch, it's people moving the virus from surfaces, to their face, which gets inhaled.

China was particularly concerned about changing rooms and bathrooms because all of the movement of cloths would make the virus airborne again. The virus apparently prefers dry environments which is why there is the theory that the humidity of summer will slow it down.

 

[Tatty_Two]

I doubt coronaviruses can even enter the blood through the eyes. Eyes tend to be an out-only thing.

Seems like it enters the blood through the lungs. Never heard of it entering any other way. Even with touch, it's people moving the virus from surfaces, to their face, which gets inhaled.

It can enter through eyes, either directly or by hands that have been contaminated from contact with surfaces.

Eye Care During COVID-19: Masks, Vaccines and Procedures

Even if you are vaccinated against COVID-19, you will need to wear a mask to medical appointments during the coronavirus pandemic. Rest assured that ophthalmologists, like all medical professionals, w

www.aao.org

Edit: It was determined in China that predominantly front line medical staff not wearing masks that had eye protection were mainly the only ones contracting the virus whilst treating patients once they realised what they were dealing with. There is also some belief that the virus can enter through cuts/abrasions in the skin but on that one there appears less evidence.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Consider the source: eye doctor association.

CDC only makes one reference to "eyes" and that's in relation to touching your eyes with germ contaminated fingers (part of their generic public safety routine):

COVID-19 and Your Health

Symptoms, testing, what to do if sick, daily activities, and more.

www.cdc.gov

If people are getting COVID-19 through their eyes, it's extremely rare/poorly documented...


Let me throw the same source back at you (updated April 3):

Important coronavirus updates for ophthalmologists

The Academy is sharing important ophthalmology-specific information related to the novel coronavirus, referred to as severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2). The highly contagious

www.aao.org

In a larger study published in the New England Journal of Medicine, researchers documented "conjunctival congestion" in 9 of 1,099 patients (0.8%) hospitalized with laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 from 30 hospitals across China. None of the patients were documented to have seen ophthalmologists, and tears were not sampled.

It's not even known if the two things are related because no one bothered to check. The thing I wanted to point out is that even if there is a connection, it's in less than 1% of patients (uncommon). That's repeated in much smaller studies:

Two preprint studies posted on MedRxiv also suggest a relatively low likelihood of infectious virus in tears of COVID-19 patients. In a study by Zhang et al. of 72 confirmed COVID-19 patients at Tongji Medical College, 2 patients had conjunctivitis. One of the 2 with conjunctivitis and none of the other 70 patients had SARS-CoV-2 RNA in their tears. In a paper by Zhou et al. of 63 confirmed COVID-19 patients in Wuhan, only 1 had conjunctivitis; that patient had a negative conjunctival swab for SARS-CoV-2 RNA. One other patient’s conjunctival swab was positive and 2 were “probable."

Conclusion in part:

Unless or until the CNN report is confirmed, existing data suggest that conjunctivitis is an uncommon event as it relates to COVID-19. However, because conjunctivitis is a common condition overall, and patients with conjunctivitis frequently present to eye clinics or emergency departments, it may happen that ophthalmologists are the first providers to evaluate patients possibly infected with COVID-19. Based on the studies above, it is possible--but not proven--that a patient with COVID-19 associated conjunctivitis could have infectious virus in their ocular secretions.

So even AAO is backpedaling on their earlier assertions.

 

[TheLostSwede]

The last few virus free places in earth

Coronavirus: Where will be the last place to catch Covid-19? - BBC News

Some places are yet to record a case - but what will they do if and when it arrives?

www.bbc.com

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Spain...may have flattened it:

Spain to extend state of emergency to April 26 as rise in infections slows

Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez said on Saturday he would ask parliament to extend lockdown measures by 15 days until April 26, as the rate of new coronavirus infections and deaths slowed again in one of the world's worst-hit countries.

www.reuters.com

 

[Vayra86]

Not how they phrased it at all.



Well, yeah, obviously.

Of course they dont phrase it that way. A doctor will also not tell you you are using a placebo.

 

[R-T-B]

A doctor will also not tell you you are using a placebo.

You do realize if you are in a study in which a placebo must be issued, you are informed of that possibility, right?

Of course they dont phrase it that way. A doctor will also not tell you you are using a placebo.

...this isn't a doubleblind...

nevermind.

I doubt coronaviruses can even enter the blood through the eyes. Eyes tend to be an out-only thing.

It's been said by many individuals and health experts that eyes are an entrance method for several viral strains, and thus can't be ruled out, so that would be at odds with your statment.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Covid-19: four fifths of cases are asymptomatic, China figures indicate

New evidence has emerged from China indicating that the large majority of coronavirus infections do not result in symptoms. Chinese authorities began publishing daily figures on 1 April on the number of new coronavirus cases that are asymptomatic, with the first day’s figures suggesting that...

www.bmj.com

 

[Tatty_Two]

Consider the source: eye doctor association.

CDC only makes one reference to "eyes" and that's in relation to touching your eyes with germ contaminated fingers (part of their generic public safety routine):

COVID-19 and Your Health

Symptoms, testing, what to do if sick, daily activities, and more.

www.cdc.gov

If people are getting COVID-19 through their eyes, it's extremely rare/poorly documented...


Let me throw the same source back at you (updated April 3):

Important coronavirus updates for ophthalmologists

The Academy is sharing important ophthalmology-specific information related to the novel coronavirus, referred to as severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2). The highly contagious

www.aao.org

It's not even known if the two things are related because no one bothered to check. The thing I wanted to point out is that even if there is a connection, it's in less than 1% of patients (uncommon). That's repeated in much smaller studies:

Conclusion in part:

So even AAO is backpedaling on their earlier assertions.

OK, let's consider other sources because it's not just about touching eyes, that one was just the first, there is a very sound reason why front line medical staff consider themselves un-protected if they do not have integrated eye protection if not wearing a full face respirator, let's suppose people wearing the face masks are wearing them to protect themselves (a bit like front line medical staff...… there has been advice already for some time recommending wearing a face mask if you are infected to protect others), I guess that the main reason for wearing the mask for protection is to protect from someone coughing or sneezing in their immediate vicinity, a sneeze can just as easily reach eyes as it can mouths & noses and eyes don't require inhalation and have a link to the nose...…...

This is a US Doctor explaining that.....................

You Can Become Infected by the Coronavirus Thru the Eyes! – Jesse Santiano M.D.

drjessesantiano.com

An LA Times article, take a look about half way down, someone from the CDC quoted mentions infection through eyes, I'll paste the relevant paragraph but there is more...……….

"Getting sneezed at or coughed on by someone who’s infected is probably the most common way, according to the CDC. If that virus-carrying saliva lands on a wet part of your face — your eyes, nose or mouth — you’ll be infected. "

How do you become infected with the coronavirus?

Tiny drops of infected saliva are the likely reason, but aerosolized particles aren't ruled out.

www.latimes.com

There are many more, you may be right that most get infected through inhilation, all my point and the Viral professor from Switzerland's point is, a face mask does not protect from the virus but as I have said countless times, once social distancing has been enforced wearing them is moot unless someone wants to get up close and personal with a stranger, I would def recommend them in those scenarios

 

[Vayra86]

You do realize if you are in a study in which a placebo must be issued, you are informed of that possibility, right?



...this isn't a doubleblind...

nevermind.



It's been said by many individuals and health experts that eyes are an entrance method for several viral strains, and thus can't be ruled out, so that would be at odds with your statment.

The possibility

People will believe what they want to believe. If it turns out, by conclusive evidence, that masks are useful and that self made masks make a marked difference, I am all ears. So far, this is not the case and we can easily leave it there. What I find more interesting is to discover why people are so eager to believe what they want to believe. That is a form of self reflection and I think it is important to do, especially in times like these when the pressure is on, also mentally.


Deaths per day in Netherlands. Our curve is flattening fast!

 

[the54thvoid]

This is the UK's current situation. We're actually testing more but the cases are definitely flattening out. Not so for the deaths, but that's to be expected - they'll lag well behind the curve.

 

[HTC]

Portugal's numbers have been updated:

- 10524 confirmed infected
- 75 recovered
- 266 fatalities
- 81087 suspected cases
- 5518 waiting for test results
- 22858 under watch from authorities
- 1075 hospitalized
- 251 in ICU, including @ least 7 doctors and one nurse

I'm not entirely sure what "suspected cases" means but i think it's the current number of tests done thus far. I think "under watch from authorities" means quarantined, but i'm not sure about it either.

 

[rtwjunkie]

Numbers here in Louisiana update

12,496 cases (10,297 yesterday)
409 deaths (370 yesterday)
1,726 hospitalized (1,707 yesterday)
571 on ventilators (535 yesterday)
58,498 tests have been conducted (54,645 yesterday)

Breaking these down for the 5 parishes that comprise the New Orleans Metro Area.

7,831 cases (3,966 actually in New Orleans) -yesterday was 6,667, with 3,476 of those in New Orleans proper
274 Deaths (153 actually in New Orleans) -yesterday was 254, with 148 of those in New Orleans proper

Louisiana Coronavirus | La Dept. of Health

The Louisiana Department of Health protects and promotes health and ensures access to medical, preventive and rehabilitative services for all citizens of the State of Louisiana.

ldh.la.gov

 

[Vayra86]

This is the UK's current situation. We're actually testing more but the cases are definitely flattening out. Not so for the deaths, but that's to be expected - they'll lag well behind the curve.

Yes, we saw the same here, cases went down a few days back, now the death count per day is also stabilizing. I reckon you might be a week behind us in everything, and you can thank your PM for not listening to his pandemics expert saying 'go herd immunity, because economy!'. Hopefully in a month's time things will be looking a lot better in EU...

Portugal's numbers have been updated:

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- 10524 confirmed infected
- 75 recovered
- 266 fatalities
- 81087 suspected cases
- 5518 waiting for test results
- 22858 under watch from authorities
- 1075 hospitalized
- 251 in ICU, including @ least 7 doctors and one nurse

I'm not entirely sure what "suspected cases" means but i think it's the current number of tests done thus far. I think "under watch from authorities" means quarantined, but i'm not sure about it either.

You guys are doing exceptionally well, aren't you? How far does your lockdown go right now? And are there other measures in place?

BTW suspected cases may be based on a model, basically just math applied on the current knowledge about spread rate vs measures in place. As we know a large part can have it and be asymptomatic.

We're literally making face masks here and the reason why they want them is not for eye protection, but to extend the life of the N95 respirators underneath. If someone coughs on the N95 respirator someone else is using, it becomes a transmission vector for the virus that can't easily be cleaned. Under normal circumstances, that N95 mask would be replaced immediately. There's not enough to do that. With a face mask, they can just take a bleach wipe and clean it off quickly.

See, now we're making a bit of sense at least.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

...let's suppose people wearing the face masks are wearing them to protect themselves...

We're literally making plastic full face masks here and the reason why they want them is not for eye protection, but to extend the life of the N95 respirators underneath. If someone coughs on the N95 respirator someone else is using, it becomes a transmission vector for the virus that can't easily be cleaned. Under normal circumstances, that N95 mask would be replaced immediately. There's not enough to do that. With a face mask, they can just take a bleach wipe and clean it off quickly.

An LA Times article, take a look about half way down, someone from the CDC quoted mentions infection through eyes, I'll paste the relevant paragraph but there is more...……….

"Getting sneezed at or coughed on by someone who’s infected is probably the most common way, according to the CDC. If that virus-carrying saliva lands on a wet part of your face — your eyes, nose or mouth — you’ll be infected. "

How do you become infected with the coronavirus?

Tiny drops of infected saliva are the likely reason, but aerosolized particles aren't ruled out.

www.latimes.com

There are many more, you may be right that most get infected through inhilation, all my point and the Viral professor from Switzerland's point is, a face mask does not protect from the virus but as I have said countless times, once social distancing has been enforced wearing them is moot unless someone wants to get up close and personal with a stranger, I would def recommend them in those scenarios

That source is over a week old; the studies on the AAO article are newer. Inhalation is the chief concern which is why NIH recommends masks in public. Getting the virus through eyes is of least concern.

I'm not entirely sure what "suspected cases" means but i think it's the current number of tests done thus far. I think "under watch from authorities" means quarantined, but i'm not sure about it either.

Suspected ("Suspieitos") are people who had contact with someone that later tested positive for COVID-19 but they can't perform enough tests to confirm ("Confirmados") the suspicion. For example, if you were living with four others, you go into the hospital sick, they test you and you're positive for COVID-19, the other four members of your household would be considered suspects due to extensive contact.

 

[HTC]

You guys are doing exceptionally well, aren't you? How far does your lockdown go right now? And are there other measures in place?

The number of those waiting for test results is far too high to say that, for now.

Our measures are not as severe as Italy's or Spain's, for now: personally, i think they should be ...

There are a few spots on a more secure lockdown because active spread has been confirmed: these are small locations. It's been considered doing the same to Porto (our 2nd biggest city in the country) because this is by far the region with the most cases, but authorities haven't made up their minds ...

 

[Vayra86]

The number of those waiting for test results is far too high to say that, for now.

Our measures are not as severe as Italy's or Spain's, for now: personally, i think they should be ...

There are a few spots on a more secure lockdown because active spread has been confirmed: these are small locations. It's been considered doing the same to Porto (our 2nd biggest city in the country) because this is by far the region with the most cases, but authorities haven't made up their minds ...

I think in the long run you will be happy your government isn't going full panic mode. They are looking at region by region, and day by day basis. This is very very positive because it means they are considering the impact on economy and social life as well.

 

[HTC]

I think in the long run you will be happy your government isn't going full panic mode. They are looking at region by region, and day by day basis. This is very very positive because it means they are considering the impact on economy and social life as well.

I fear the opposite will be true but we'll just have to wait to find out.

If you scale Portugal's population to France's, we'd have over 68000 cases, with over 1700 deaths.

I'd say "we're not very bad" but we're FAR from OK.

Today, we passed South Korea's cases, and they have roughly 5 times our population but have less cases than us, and less deaths as well: now here's a country that actually DID and is STILL doing WELL VS this virus.