Microsoft Releases Windows 10 October 2020 Update

[Chrispy_]

closer integration of the Edge web-browser with Windows

Am I the only one who gets annoyed that various links in Windows open up in Edge despite Edge not being the default browser?

 

[Kursah]

Am I the only one who gets annoyed that various links in Windows open up in Edge despite Edge not being the default browser?

This is true Microsoft form. They have to spam some of their products to get people to actually see/use them at times. Once enough negative feedback comes through, I suspect they'll remove this aspect and develop a different, equally annoying one.

I don't use Edge all that often, but like it when I do. I primarily stick to Chrome and Vivaldi anymore. Don't really have the issue of Edge opening up all that often. At least its not still IE 9/10/11 opening up (in my case.).

 

[Chrispy_]

This is true Microsoft form. They have to spam some of their products to get people to actually see/use them at times. Once enough negative feedback comes through, I suspect they'll remove this aspect and develop a different, equally annoying one.

I'm about to see if all the bloatware gets reinstalled as part of the update. Company policy is to remove access to Skype and Onedrive (GDPR reasons) and then there's usually a bunch of other crap that comes back every update like Groove Music, Your Phone, News and Weather apps, the wrong Office365 advert/trial that actually conflicts with our Enterprise E5 suite, Mail (which reinstalls itself and steals associations from existing Outlook 365 installations) Mobile Plans (for a desktop, really?), and the pair of XBox Apps only one of which can actually be uninstalled without Powershell.

Some of our machines run W10 Enterprise and I GP all that stuff away but there are enough running regular W10 Pro that it'll result in 50-100 pointless support calls to the department as the confusing junk apps confuse users who either don't know better or annoys users that simply don't want clutter they didn't ask for getting in the way...

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

I really would love to know why everyone else has a problem with every other feature update while I get a build upgrade every single week and everything works fine...

This. Never had an issue other than Windows not being able to do audio properly, which it still can't.

while 'YOU' never had issues doesnt mean others have not. I dont do major updates, at all, for atleast 3 months because M$ has a track record of botching updates ( not every update) that resulted in severely damaging a PC especially if someone doesnt know how to fix the issue.

 

[Kursah]

while 'YOU' never had issues doesnt mean others have not. I dont do major updates, at all, for atleast 3 months because M$ has a track record of botching updates ( not every update) that resulted in severely damaging a PC especially if someone doesnt know how to fix the issue.

Exactly. Neither pro or against Windows Update statements should be taken as the general law for everyone. But when makes a statement it can be assumed or perceived as such, which could avoid drama if clarified in the first place.

 

[Chrispy_]

I just upgraded two machines at home (w10pro with sycnex debloat scripts) and the only negatives were unwanted shortcuts to Edge appearing and Edge stealing all of the associations for everything it supports.

Bad, but still a lot better than I expected.

I'll find out tomorrow at work how bad things are on a "stock" (non-sycnex/scripted) version of Windows 10 in terms of stolen associations and reinstalled junk, bloat, and adverts. It looks like there are two main marketing pushes this launch:

1. A renewed push for Edge, trying to steal that browser telemetry to sell and clogging up ALT+TAB for any saps who jumped on that landmine. Perhaps there's a feature to turn that off because I don't know about you but the average number of tabs I have open is in the dozens. That crap is absolutely NOT what ALT-TAB is for because every browser already has CTRL+TAB for this feature.
   
   
2. XBOX Game Pass. Fine, I guess, if you're a subscriber, but the Venn-diagram of gaming PC owner and XBOX owner is pretty small. If you have one you don't need the other. I can't complain too hard though, XBGP actually seems to be a half-decent platform for gaming if you like the subscription model.

As far as feature updates go, this one is pretty light on features and It's pretty light on anything at all, in fact.

It's really quite sad that I consider this a good thing - a good thing because feature updates are more commonly a burden of broken slowdowns and added junk that nobody asked for and nobody wants. Today, at least, no serious damage seems to have been done to the world's most popular OS so I guess this is considered 'a win' if it's not a stalemate :\

 

[windwhirl]

1. A renewed push for Edge, trying to steal that browser telemetry to sell and clogging up ALT+TAB for any saps who jumped on that landmine. Perhaps there's a feature to turn that off because I don't know about you but the average number of tabs I have open is in the dozens. That crap is absolutely NOT what ALT-TAB is for because every browser already has CTRL+TAB for this feature.

Regardless of whether you like/use Chromium Edge or not, you can adjust or outright disable that feature through Settings.

As far as feature updates go, this one is pretty light on features and It's pretty light on anything at all, in fact.

It's really quite sad that I consider this a good thing - a good thing because feature updates are more commonly a burden of broken slowdowns and added junk that nobody asked for and nobody wants. Today, at least, no serious damage seems to have been done to the world's most popular OS so I guess this is considered 'a win' if it's not a stalemate :\

Aside from how much Microsoft may screw up when delivering these big updates, this one in particular was decidedly very light in features because of COVID. With a lot of people working from home and all that, it's not the best time to push new features or important UX changes to the public. Even in Insider builds they are doing something similar, pushing new features to only a subset of insiders and not all of them. Everything is very... staggered, so to speak.

 

[TheOne]

Just installed it on my laptop, went from 1909 to 20H2, took over 2 hours.

 

[R-T-B]

Right, see, review says 8-bit panel.

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But it can still be set to 10-bit. I don't have this option anywhere.

I can in fact not even touch the colour depth box. Dropping to 30Hz unlocks it, but still only 8-bit and same for 24Hz...

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Sounds like your displayport link bandwidth got downgraded, somehow. 8bpc @ 4K used to be a limitation of 1.1 I think.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Sounds like your displayport link bandwidth got downgraded, somehow. 8bpc @ 4K used to be a limitation of 1.1 I think.

I've tried two different cables, the one in the box and one from Lindy, no difference. I just think Asus is telling a lie, as I'm not the only one seeing this on their claimed 10-bit panels.

 

[R-T-B]

I've tried two different cables, the one in the box and one from Lindy, no difference. I just think Asus is telling a lie, as I'm not the only one seeing this on their claimed 10-bit panels.

Could be. It is also possible they stuck a 10-bit panel on an old school controller that can't even do the signal bandwidth needed.

Either way, cable is not your issue source.

 

[Chrispy_]

I've tried two different cables, the one in the box and one from Lindy, no difference. I just think Asus is telling a lie, as I'm not the only one seeing this on their claimed 10-bit panels.

Did it show up as 10-bit on W10 2004?

 

[TheLostSwede]

Did it show up as 10-bit on W10 2004?

It has never shown up as 10-bit.
For a laugh, I tried with a DP 1.4 cable, no luck.
So yeah, Asus is talking crap.

 

[rtwjunkie]

Well I’m not doing this update and rolling back from 2004, which I only updated to 3 weeks ago. 2004, in a known problem to thousands, that MS still hasn’t fixed eliminated the ability to see or be seen on the network map.

One would think a workaround would be mapping network drives? Nope, because a restart eliminates the connection but leaves the icon corpses on your file explorer map. So, until I know they fixed this with 2020, I’m back on 1909 with a 300 day wait policy in place under Group Policy Editor.

 

[Black Hades]

Maybe it was a glitch on my side, first 3 reboots after patching today I got Into windows post patch and 3-5 seconds later encountered gray screen and not even the task mgr (alt+ctrl+del) couldn't be reached
Decided to go revert from safe mode, and by mistake forgot to reset. Windows loaded normally (on the forth reboot). I suspect a running service was the issue. I'll check logs later today

 

[Sir Alex Ice]

This update is quite broken, it is offered to a 13 years old laptop but my 4690 based systems can't find it available.