Microsoft's Next Operating System Getting Drafted

[Mussels]

Isn't it then easier to just use LogMeIn service? I mean sure it's not the same but this thing can be useful if you're at work but you have to do stuff from your computer. Anything you can do at home you can using LogMeIn on a remote system. Any system. Except playing games and video due to bandwidth restrictions. Payable versions even allow you to hear sounds and music from your computer on remote host and print documents from your home computer to a remote host printer.

i use teamviewer for that, but yeah its the same thing.

MS just wants to make an OS for a product they havent made yet, to rake in the money. nettops without a HDD are even smaller, around phone sized... and look! it can do anything your PC at home can! (assuming you have awesome internet at home and wirelessly to your device)

 

[inferKNOX]

I don't like the idea of storing my personal stuff on the internet where any little s**t can access it if he has the time, and that's why I don't like the idea of a cloud system. It's annohying enough dealing with Steam which refuses to work for me these days and because of that I can no longer play any of my Steam games. Imagine if the cloud system decides to go down one day and you can't use your computer. Imagine all the people out there with crap internet (everyone in New Zealand can relate).

You don't realise how third world our internet is. Our fastest speeds are 10Mbits and to get that you have to get a small cap (like biggest I've found is 40GB), and then you have to pay heaps. NZ has quite possibly the worst internet in the world, and now it's going to be made worse because Microsoft wants us to use a cloud system.

No thanks, especially when you are dealing with massive Adobe Premiere Pro project files which are over 10GB each. I would go through my bandwidth cap in a day with Microsoft making me upload it to them (not to mention it would take a few hours to login.

Of course I haven't forgotten about the farmers in NZ who have ever worse internet than me. About 80% of farmers in NZ (and we are a farming country which means they aren't a minority) are still on dial-up because the lines are too crap to run ADSL. They will have it worse. How the heck are they going to run on a cloud system?

Cloud systems are not the way of the future. I don't care what people say in pro to them, they are useless and I see no point in them. Why do I have to upload all my work to Microsoft in the off chance I will go to a mates computer, forget my laptop, forget my USB flash drive which is attached to my keyring, forget my external hard drive and need to work on something. Massive thumbs down for this version of Windows for me all because of the cloud system.

+1 QFT
Internet in Southerrn Africa also would never cope with this. It barely does as it is now.
This is just so ridiculous, from dumb terminals, to decentralised computing, back to dumb terminals.
I'm totally against it! What's the use of buying an enthusiast class rig if you can't even use it?! Besides, I like/prefer building/etc a personal computer to celebrate at LANs/etc rather than having some super powerful server supplying me with even the best graphics in games or processing power.

The only feature I'd like is having the screen turn off when you're away, and turn on when you return, maybe also hibernate if you've been away for XX minutes at most. Facial recognition, cloud-based security databases for logins and anything that may add to surveillance/monitoring is totally out IMO.
First Apple with their device tracking, now M$ with facial recognition; what goat dung!

 

[Lipton]

The idiocy in this thread is staggering. Hopefully you just missed the part where it said "not a plan of record."

Also, typing MS with a $ stopped being cool when the new millennium hit.

 

[Wile E]

The idiocy in this thread is staggering. Hopefully you just missed the part where it said "not a plan of record."

Care to elaborate specifically what you are referring to? Your statement is a bit vague.

 

[TheMailMan78]

The idiocy in this thread is staggering. Hopefully you just missed the part where it said "not a plan of record."

Also, typing MS with a $ stopped being cool when the new millennium hit.

Slow down friend.

 

[WarEagleAU]

Yeah I am really digging this new OS!

 

[demonbrawn]

I'm not sure I would want to be required to go out and buy several new peripherals that I don't care about in order to operate Win 8. Hopefully, it won't be required.

 

[solidified_ghost]

XP works fine

XP works fine for me, with XP I can browse, email, play movies, play games, run old computer emulators, burn, copy, convert, encode, CAD, fax, archive, I have no need to change. Vista was cabbage. Windows 7 is what, as good as XP? What can Windows 8 do that XP cannot? Recognise my face? Anything useful? Anything inobstrusive? If it isn't broken, don't fix it.

 

[TIGR]

XP works fine for me, with XP I can browse, email, play movies, play games, run old computer emulators, burn, copy, convert, encode, CAD, fax, archive, I have no need to change. Vista was cabbage. Windows 7 is what, as good as XP? What can Windows 8 do that XP cannot? Recognise my face? Anything useful? Anything inobstrusive? If it isn't broken, don't fix it.

"Useful" is in the eye of the beholder.

 

[Mussels]

XP works fine for me, with XP I can browse, email, play movies, play games, run old computer emulators, burn, copy, convert, encode, CAD, fax, archive, I have no need to change. Vista was cabbage. Windows 7 is what, as good as XP? What can Windows 8 do that XP cannot? Recognise my face? Anything useful? Anything inobstrusive? If it isn't broken, don't fix it.

i could list you two dozen things that vista and 7 can do that XP cant, or that they can do better, but i see no reason to waste my time.


please stop de-railing this thread - 'XP IS THE BEST!' threads became boring and repetetive 5 years ago.


'useful' is how vista and 7 handle wireless networking over XP, 'useful' is the way 7 maximises or half-fills the screen when you move windows to the sides. 'useful' is the shake gesture to minimise all windows. vista/7 have tons of useful additions, as i'm sure 8 will as well... when its finished.

 

[solidified_ghost]

How is Vista and 7 better than XP

I'm listening, list the ways they're better.

 

[Wile E]

I'm listening, list the ways they're better.

I only have to list 2 to end this discussion.

1.) Can access more than 4GB of ram.
2.) Much superior security.

 

[TIGR]

[not aimed at any one person]

As long as you think your definition of "useful" is something that can be universally applied to everyone, and is better than everyone else's, you're laboring fruitlessly. You can all argue until you're blue in the face, but you need to recognize that we all use our systems differently before this conversation can really go anywhere.

 

[Mussels]

I'm listening, list the ways they're better.

you've had a few listed already. enough on this topic in this thread.

 

[Completely Bonkers]

I'm going to chirp in here:

1./ I had such a terrible experience with W7 starter that I replaced it with W2K3 on a Atom netbook. W2K3 was far superior even though complete overkill for an Atom netbook. But the experience was sufficient for me not to give W7 a go, and also to hold off my company's investment in "upgrading". Own-goal MS for providing such a sh1t experience to W7 on a netbook

2./ For 90% of up-time, XP or W2K3 is just as suitable, maybe even more suitable than W7

3./ For office work and productivity applications XP/2K3 is still good enough

4./ Let's NOT stand in the way of progress. Windows IS getting better. ONE DAY it will laugh in the face of XP and 2K3. But today, except for gaming, IMO it doesn't

5./ I'm really looking forward to 2K12. Oh my goodness. 2K3 is already (nearly) 10 years old. I am OVERDUE for an upgrade

6./ MS have lagged. Apple and OSX has achieved more in 10 years. So have Linux distros. I still prefer Windows for all sorts of reasons... but the smaller company made more progress than the giant

7./ We will definitely upgrade to the new version of Windows (2K12 after SP1 is released)

8./ Let's NOT talk about IE6! LOL Did you know 50% of Asia is (apparently) still using it!

9./ If you are an XP die-hard that is OK. But PLEASE tell me you are using current applications, antivirus, browsers, etc.

 

[>>PhoeniX<<]

So basically gamers are going to be limited to windows 7 because all the crapware this "Draft" has? Sad face.

 

[Frick]

I'm going to chirp in here:

1./ I had such a terrible experience with W7 starter that I replaced it with W2K3 on a Atom netbook. W2K3 was far superior even though complete overkill for an Atom netbook. But the experience was sufficient for me not to give W7 a go, and also to hold off my company's investment in "upgrading". Own-goal MS for providing such a sh1t experience to W7 on a netbook

2./ For 90% of up-time, XP or W2K3 is just as suitable, maybe even more suitable than W7

3./ For office work and productivity applications XP/2K3 is still good enough

4./ Let's NOT stand in the way of progress. Windows IS getting better. ONE DAY it will laugh in the face of XP and 2K3. But today, except for gaming, IMO it doesn't

5./ I'm really looking forward to 2K12. Oh my goodness. 2K3 is already (nearly) 10 years old. I am OVERDUE for an upgrade

6./ MS have lagged. Apple and OSX has achieved more in 10 years. So have Linux distros. I still prefer Windows for all sorts of reasons... but the smaller company made more progress than the giant

7./ We will definitely upgrade to the new version of Windows (2K12 after SP1 is released)

8./ Let's NOT talk about IE6! LOL Did you know 50% of Asia is (apparently) still using it!

9./ If you are an XP die-hard that is OK. But PLEASE tell me you are using current applications, antivirus, browsers, etc.

1. You should have read up what Starter meant before making your company not go for Win7. I've used Starter on a netbook and thought it was fine for what I did, but 7 is so much more. Your loss really.

2. Don't know what to say. Sure it is, the same way as 2k is.

3. What about Win98? And DSL? And Windows CE? And DOS? OS 9.2? You can say the same for pretty much every OS.

4. That's your opinion. I'm way more productive on 7 than on XP and I always feel gimped when working with XP. And I've used XP since its release up to Windows 7 release.

6. Not sure here. In what ways have Linux/OSX grown more than Windows? And how would you know when you're not using the latest products? 7 is a modern, fluid and secure system. And then we have the backwards compatibility thing. Thanks to various users and above all coprorations MS is hard pressed to to make sure tons and tons and tons of different hardware/software configurations work from the start. Yes, you can make pretty much everything work with Linux, but often you have to tinker with it. Apple as a whole have a very interesting view on compatibility.

8. That is horrible.

9. I'm not a fan of those who buy computers with Windows 7 and then promptly formats everything and installs XP though. A waste of resources.