Motherboard for Ryzen 7800X3D and 32GB RAM kit

[Arco]

Will be looking to purchase a Ryzen 7800X3D over the coming weeks, and looking for a good motherboard and 32GB RAM kit for it. Of course prices for AM5 motherboards are expensive, so looking to find something that has the best stability, shortest boot times, etc.

My current board is an AS Rock X370 Killer SLI/AC, I have used four CPUs on this board (Ryzen 1600, 2700X, 3700X, 5700X) and think AS Rock did a good job with keeping it relevant with BIOS updates. The current BIOS has a boot time of around 16 seconds, and I can be using Windows 10 in around 30 seconds from the pressing the power button. I would like to get similar results with an AM5 board, I know the latest AGESA / BIOS have reduced boot times but it seems like some AM5 boards still suffer longer boot times and I'd like to avoid those boards.

I would like to keep this for another CPU generation or two, or however long AM5 will be kept around.

If anyone has some good motherboard suggestions as well as accompanying RAM kits I would like to know what I should look into getting. And if you own a board you're suggesting if you can let me know the BIOS boot time I'd appreciate it.

What is the ideal RAM speed for a 7800X3D? 6000 MHZ, CL30?



I came across this ASRock X670E PG Lightning, which is a X670E board. It was on sale for $240 but went back up to $260, but it seems to be the only X670E board in that price range. ASRock page/specs for this model. This looks like a decent board for the price, although two of the PCI-E M.2 slots are Gen 4x2 and Gen 3x4. Is that common for AM5 boards in this price range?

Any other good X670E boards, or should I just look into a B650E? I plan on using 2 PCI-E SSDs eventually with the possibility of a 3rd.

I'm using the X670E Steel Legend. It's a very stable and fast board and has better audio than the Lightning if you need that. Boot times around 10 seconds for me personally with 64GB@6000CL36.

 

[Space Lynx]

It's strange to me that almost no one is acknowledging what you want to do with NVMe SSDs.

OP made this topic clearly because he is on borderline max of his budget, I was just trying to help him save some money. $125 well rated mobo that can run 2x nvme drives gen4 at full speed, i mean i don't know what else to tell ya, spend more money and get 3 drives and x670e mobo and topic is dead, that simple

I'm using the X670E Steel Legend. It's a very stable and fast board and has better audio than the Lightning if you need that. Boot times around 10 seconds for me personally with 64GB@6000CL36.

this is good advice, maybe OP should just save up some more money and get that board.

 

[Arco]

OP made this topic clearly because he is on borderline max of his budget, I was just trying to help him save some money. $125 well rated mobo that can run 2x nvme drives gen4 at full speed, i mean i don't know what else to tell ya, spend more money and get 3 drives and x670e mobo and topic is dead, that simple



this is good advice, maybe OP should just save up some more money and get that board.

If he does need a board though, Asrock has hit the head on the nail this generation.

 

[Knight47]

Rumours suggest that AMD might skip the next chipset with the 8000 series CPU not to get anyone's hopes up.

Can't seem to find anything with google, where does this rumor come from?

 

[Chrispy_]

The question is, how is running 2 DIMMs in a 2-DIMM board different from running 2 DIMMs in a 4-DIMM board? As far as I know, they're the same thing.

2-DIMM boards that are designed to never have more than 2 DIMMs can have the shortest possible traces:

• Most 4-DIMM boards are T-topology which means the traces go to the middle of all the DIMMs and then double back to reach the nearest two DIMM slots, making the traces longer.
• Some4-DIMM boards will hunt for daisy-chain topology as that means the first two slots are the same trace length as dedicated 2-DIMM boards, but traces to the second two slots are even longer than on T-topology boards.

Even though the first two slots in a daisy-chain board are theoretically the same length as those on a dedicated 2-DIMM board, the practical application still results in some extra signal interference caused by having a bunch of extra, unused traces acting like antennae, and possibly suboptimal routing of the "wiggly" trace-length equalisation in a 4-DIMM board because the manufacturer cannot go "around the back" of the first two DIMMS in a daisy-chain topology - the daisy-chained traces themselves occupy that space. That's only really an issue for exceptionally cramped mITX boards though, as far as I understand it.

 

[Waldorf]

@Flogger23m
hard to give recommendations, when we dont even know where you are.
assuming its the US, check combos from microcenter/pcpartpicker.
i usually do pick my board, then decide where to get it, mainly MC as the in-store deals are usually the same/better than Amazon.

Since im building with ryzen, Asus/Asrock if your looking for something specific, after multiple Gb boards, i wont use them even if a +300$ was free.
for me, i rather add another 100$, and get an MSI from the MEG series, most stable as well as "lowest" XMP/AMP (soc) voltages i have seen, but havent used x600 series yet.
but even for the lower price range i still prefer MSI over others just from the fact they just worked without any hiccups incl xmp with auto settings.

all boards listed have 3 or more m.2 slots.

pcpartpicker


@AusWolf
like chrispy said, its usually because of "less" of everything, but its also a little bit more stable, especially once you start going above 2133 (ddr4).
iirc the top boards, when it comes to ram perf, are all 2 slots, with MSI having the ddr4/ddr5 clock "crown" (intel tho, 2022/2021).

 

[ir_cow]

Can't seem to find anything with google, where does this rumor come from?

That's why it's a rumor. Someone starts it

 

[Waldorf]

@Knight47
does not really matter.
the next released chipset, is the next released chipset, no matter which on it is or the number it has,
its "made up" and whatever amd wants to name it...

 

[Flogger23m]

I'm using the X670E Steel Legend. It's a very stable and fast board and has better audio than the Lightning if you need that. Boot times around 10 seconds for me personally with 64GB@6000CL36.

That board looks great, but $300 is a bit high for me. The one I linked in the OP was $240, but now it is back up to $260.

Seems like from casually browsing, Gigabyte and AS Rock seem to be the cheapest. Gigabyte had some combo deals in the past, although don't recall which exact models and the 7800X3D combos were not that much of a saving. I'm trying to keep the motherboard price $200-250 or so.

Microcenter is not an option because they seldom seem to ship.

 

[ir_cow]

Cheapest never means good for electronics

 

[Space Lynx]

Cheapest never means good for electronics

eh I trust the hardware unboxed review of the $125 mobo, its a good mobo and can even handle a 7950x just fine they demonstrated. the other budget boards all suck though they said, but yeah thats a good one.

 

[ir_cow]

If 100+c is "good" than yes. Remember they only measured the back of the PCB. Useless readings.

 

[Space Lynx]

If 100+c is "good" than yes. Remember they only measured the back of the PCB. Useless readings.

hmm i will have to re-watch that review, i think they did sensor readings in hwinfo too, not just back of board... i will need to rewatch it though as its been a long time.

where is your evidence this mobo does 100 celsius on vrm?

 

[ir_cow]

@Space Lynx not that specific MB, but some of these lower ends can't handle a 7950X at full load is what I'm saying.

As for HWunbox. I don't watch them often. Last one had a round up and the test was perform just with k-type on the back of the PCB. Hwinfo sensor is pretty good though. Higher end MB have mosfets with sensors internally. Cheaper ones are just next to it. Sill much better vs the back.

Do you really trust YouTubers though? At least it isn't Linus hhahhhahahahaah

 

[Space Lynx]

@Space Lynx not that specific MB, but some of these lower ends can't handle a 7950X at full load is what I'm saying.

As for HWunbox. I don't watch them often. Last one had a round up and the test was perform just with k-type on the back of the PCB. Hwinfo sensor is pretty good though. Higher end MB have mosfets with sensors internally. Cheaper ones are just next to it. Sill much better vs the back.

Do you really trust YouTubers though? At least it isn't Linus hhahhhahahahaah

I trust hardware unboxed, and they agree with you the other budget mobo's are junk, but they showed several tests on that $125 asrock held up like a champ

 

[Shou Miko]

Can't seem to find anything with google, where does this rumor come from?

Some ppl on Twitter that usually have their things in order.

There are several accounts that are really good to follow like 9550pro, harukaze5719, kopite7kimi, OneRaichu and some others.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

I trust hardware unboxed, and they agree with you the other budget mobo's are junk, but they showed several tests on that $125 asrock held up like a champ

He use to put thermalcouples on the mosfets and the back of the pcb but oddly the rear pcb temp was always the hottest. I think he started reading the rear pcb only due to that other than software.

 

[ir_cow]

@oxrufiioxo recording the PCB temp is somewhat useful. It tells you the PCB is getting warm in that area. But I would argue that isn't the mosfet temp and that component is more important.

The other factor is what is the amperage, voltage for how long. Different program give different loads. 10 minutes of aida64 stress isn't going to cut it. I haven't looked into what is actually used. Just pointing out potential flaws in the testing.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

@oxrufiioxo recording the PCB temp is somewhat useful. It tells you the PCB is getting warm in that area. But I would argue that isn't the mosfet temp and that component is more important.

The other factor is what is the amperage, voltage for how long. Different program give different loads. 10 minutes of aida64 stress isn't going to cut it. I haven't looked into what is actually used. Just pointing out potential flaws in the testing.

Definitely not disagreeing with you well beyond my scope of expertise it was mostly just on observation from watching his VRM thermal testing. I definitely preferred his old way of testing just to completely rule out any variances.

 

[Flogger23m]

How bad is the Realtek ALC897? I do plan on upgrading my headset, but probably will be something around $150-200. Will a Realtek ALC897 be a problem or is it fine for regular consumer speakers/headsets?

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Just get somthing that has it's own dac there are plenty of decent headsets like that.

 

[AusWolf]

How bad is the Realtek ALC897? I do plan on upgrading my headset, but probably will be something around $150-200. Will a Realtek ALC897 be a problem or is it fine for regular consumer speakers/headsets?

If your monitor has a 3.5 mm Jack, just plug it in there and use the GPU's audio.

As for the ALC897... it does the job. Nothing special.

 

[UKAussi]

Doing the exact same 7800X3D build with 3 NVMe SSD (CPU on sale at Newegg btw for $399)
Waiting for sale on Mon/Tues next week
Likely getting the MSI PRO X670-P WIFI as only $199 and has 4 x NVMe slots (1 CPU and 3 Chipset). Not seen any negative reviews so far and cheapest X670 board out there from a reliable brand (currently have MSI B450M Mortar Titanium in my rig and MSI MAG X570 Tomahawk Wifi in daughters)

Anyone seen any issues around this board? - https://www.newegg.com/msi-pro-x670-p-wifi/p/N82E16813144551

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Doing the exact same 7800X3D build with 3 NVMe SSD (CPU on sale at Newegg btw for $399)
Waiting for sale on Mon/Tues next week
Likely getting the MSI PRO X670-P WIFI as only $199 and has 4 x NVMe slots (1 CPU and 3 Chipset). Not seen any negative reviews so far and cheapest X670 board out there from a reliable brand (currently have MSI B450M Mortar Titanium in my rig and MSI MAG X570 Tomahawk Wifi in daughters)

Anyone seen any issues around this board? - https://www.newegg.com/msi-pro-x670-p-wifi/p/N82E16813144551

No since B550 Msi and boards have been super solid it really was only their X570 boards that where duds. Recently did a build with the Gigabyte B650 Aorus elite AX and was pretty impressed especially with how it handled 6000 CL30 memory other boards from Asus I've used so far I've had to manually tinker with.

 

[Super Firm Tofu]

Doing the exact same 7800X3D build with 3 NVMe SSD (CPU on sale at Newegg btw for $399)
Waiting for sale on Mon/Tues next week
Likely getting the MSI PRO X670-P WIFI as only $199 and has 4 x NVMe slots (1 CPU and 3 Chipset). Not seen any negative reviews so far and cheapest X670 board out there from a reliable brand (currently have MSI B450M Mortar Titanium in my rig and MSI MAG X570 Tomahawk Wifi in daughters)

Anyone seen any issues around this board? - https://www.newegg.com/msi-pro-x670-p-wifi/p/N82E16813144551

Mine was 100% solid the entire time I had it.

Some points to consider:

+/- No PCIe 5.0 x16 slot (not important in my opinion), but it does have a Gen 5 NVMe slot
+ 6 SATA ports (if that matters to you)
+/- No motherboard heatsinks for the 3 NVMe slots (not a big deal for me)

Best bang for the buck as far as I'm concerned. I also have a Z690 and Z790 from their Pro series that are also rock solid.