Mozilla Looks to Supercharge the Browsing Experience With Firefox Quantum

[CheapMeat]

I think you're totally missing the whole point here and I am certain you have no idea what you're talking about.
Try running a few applications that demand a lot of RAM and see if the experience is good.

Uh, I already do? I do content creation, music videos mainly. I also often have a ton of Chrome tabs open. I'm not experiencing issues. I think you're just another person who exaggerates with hyperbole or has a really low end system.


Extension wise, just running HTTPS Everywhere and uBlock Origin.

 

[bug]

Don't forget bug, only those who use NoScript experience browser performance in the purest software way possible.

Nowadays whenever I use the Internet on a browser without NoScript, I have geocities-like reactions of disgust and always ask the device owner how they can possibly live that way.

On top of that, Firefox 57 not only obsoletes NoScript, it obsoletes LightBeam as well
And while heavy scripting might be tolerable on the desktop, it's an absolute murder on mobile. Especially when you (need to) get the desktop version of a page.

 

[plåtburken]

Uh, I already do? I do content creation, music videos mainly. I also often have a ton of Chrome tabs open. I'm not experiencing issues. I think you're just another person who exaggerates with hyperbole or has a really low end system.


Extension wise, just running HTTPS Everywhere and uBlock Origin.

No you don't, if you did you would understand that having applications hogging memory and starving others will result into huge performance loss and issues of stability.

 

[trparky]

The issue isn't the fact that it uses a lot of RAM, the issue is that as it consumes all that RAM it slows down considerably. I don't know what's going on inside the browser to cause this to happen but it is indeed happening. It's like it's choking on the memory load.

 

[bug]

The issue isn't the fact that it uses a lot of RAM, the issue is that as it consumes all that RAM it slows down considerably. I don't know what's going on inside the browser to cause this to happen but it is indeed happening. It's like it's choking on the memory load.

It must be some usage pattern at work, cause I keep Firefox open 8 hours a day at work, together with Chromium, Vivaldi, an IDE and during the first half of the day usually the swap isn't used at all (I keep it showing in the tray).

 

[trparky]

Do you use Javascript intense web sites? I do.

I have one web site that can make a single Firefox sub-process start chowing down on 800 MBs of RAM in a few hours. It's a news reading web site where I have all of my RSS feeds brought together for easy reading. The site is awesome, it does a lot of things, the only bad thing is that it makes your browser choke.

 

[bug]

Do you use Javascript intense web sites? I do.

I have one web site that can make a single Firefox sub-process start chowing down on 800 MBs of RAM in a few hours. It's a news reading web site where I have all of my RSS feeds brought together for easy reading. The site is awesome, it does a lot of things, the only bad thing is that it makes your browser choke.

Idk, I use NoScript. That, by default runs scripts only from the host you're visiting. On top of that, you need to add some CDNs, jquery and a handful of other common sites and you're good to go.
As said before, if JS is really the culprit here, you should be able to fix your problem with a page refresh. Unless there's something really fishy going on that causes the JS engine to never free used memory.

 

[trparky]

Probably more than likely the site itself has leaky JS code.

 

[bug]

Probably more than likely the site itself has leaky JS code.

Probably ... more than likely. Good one

Unless you're talking about JS that somehow trips Firefox's engine (easily proven if other browsers are fine with the same website), I fail to see how you can fault the browser here.

 

[trparky]

NewsBlur and Facebook are two main culprit sites for me which causes Firefox to pig out on RAM. But what I don't get is why Firefox slows down simply because of RAM usage. What's really going on inside of it? You'd think that it wouldn't matter how much RAM it's using, having data in RAM shouldn't matter.

 

[bug]

NewsBlur and Facebook are two main culprit sites for me which causes Firefox to pig out on RAM. But what I don't get is why Firefox slows down simply because of RAM usage. What's really going on inside of it? You'd think that it wouldn't matter how much RAM it's using, having data in RAM shouldn't matter.

It runs all JS on a single thread, that's why.

 

[xorbe]

All I'm saying bug is that it was a serious problem at the time semi-recently, and now it seems fine with nightly. Not sure why you are so defensive of some software, sort of an inexperienced viewpoint when it comes to software and the variety of issues and configurations.

 

[bug]

All I'm saying bug is that it was a serious problem at the time semi-recently, and now it seems fine with nightly. Not sure why you are so defensive of some software, sort of an inexperienced viewpoint when it comes to software and the variety of issues and configurations.

I'm defensive because you seem to blame this on Firefox without telling us if and how you looked for the root cause. And I'm saying Firefox is not actually unusable past a few hours, because I keep it open all day every day and performance is just fine. Whatever problems you see, are not a given, but some unfortunate alignment of God know what conditions.

 

[xorbe]

Hey, there's a guy over on reddit who says his Firefox is crashing. You should head over there and let him know that your Firefox isn't crashing.

 

[Valentino77]

I wouldn't use strong terms like "supercharge", but Quantum does look interesting. it's miles above what Google'ss been doing recently. yet it's still a bit slower when tested by overclockers and nerds like me. But the potential of Quantum is way above what Google can offer today. Not to mention Apple with its High Sierra and Safari 11.

 

[bug]

I wouldn't use strong terms like "supercharge", but Quantum does look interesting. it's miles above what Google'ss been doing recently. yet it's still a bit slower when tested by overclockers and nerds like me. But the potential of Quantum is way above what Google can offer today. Not to mention Apple with its High Sierra and Safari 11.

Keep in mind that arguably the most important piece of the Quantum project, WebRender, will only land in Firefox 59. That's a new compositor, supposedly built to offload as much as possible to the GPU.

 

[jboydgolfer]

I like the idea of the "multi process" option. Ive maxed it to 7, to monitor the impact on performance as well as my Hardware.

Unfortunately I have noticed small freezes during multi tab use, I don't know if it's something specific though