MSI Doesn't Plan Radeon RX 9000 Series GPUs, Skips AMD RDNA 4 Generation Entirely

[Bruno_O]

nothing of value was lost

Sapphire and Powercolor are the best AIB by far

 

[Darmok N Jalad]

Well, I don't know if motherboards are any different, but I really like the MSI AM4 board I have. Stable, well executed, lots of control with the fans and lots of headers. Can't complain at all.

Honestly surprised anyone would willingly pass on making a GPU of any brand right now. Even the B580 is selling at marked up prices. Why would anyone avoid any part of this market when the products are flying off the shelves?

 

[Caring1]

Well, I don't know if motherboards are any different, but I really like the MSI AM4 board I have. Stable, well executed, lots of control with the fans and lots of headers. Can't complain at all.

Honestly surprised anyone would willingly pass on making a GPU of any brand right now. Even the B580 is selling at marked up prices. Why would anyone avoid any part of this market when the products are flying off the shelves?

Yeah their Motherboards were good, their GPUs not so much.

 

[Visible Noise]

Citation needed.

Every time you attempt to challenge my knowledge you just embarrass yourself further.

https://storage-asset.msi.com/file/pdf/investor/financial/113Q3_AIA.pdf

 

[Hecate91]

It makes a lot of sense, you must be an MSI shareholder.
I asked for a source on MSI being the largest AIB motherboard maker, not a PDF of MSI claiming they're the best ever to their investors.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

This smells like Nvidia has a hand in this decision. What MSI has been doing is obviously snubbing AMD.

 

[HD64G]

They chose exclusivity to be favored by nVidia, so who needs those for AMD GPUs? They made awfully bad designs for the last gens of AMD GPUs they offered compared to nVidia iterations after all.

 

[Visible Noise]

It makes a lot of sense, you must be an MSI shareholder.
I asked for a source on MSI being the largest AIB motherboard maker, not a PDF of MSI claiming they're the best ever to their investors.

You mean the data I provided that showed their billions of dollars is sales?

That‘s three times in this thread alone you’ve embarrassed yourself. Keep it up, it’s amusing.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

First was HIS, I think last card from them was 5700XT, now MSI... In the end it will be only Sapphire, Powercolor and a bunch of Chineese anime cards with bells and whistles.

You also have XFX and ASrock. ASrock's challenger D cooler and phantom D cooler are pretty nice.

Well, I don't know if motherboards are any different, but I really like the MSI AM4 board I have. Stable, well executed, lots of control with the fans and lots of headers. Can't complain at all.

Honestly surprised anyone would willingly pass on making a GPU of any brand right now. Even the B580 is selling at marked up prices. Why would anyone avoid any part of this market when the products are flying off the shelves?

Well, their AMD RX 7000s sold rather poorly, and MSI clearly doesnt want to put in the effort to make proper AMD cards.

I dont think their RX 6000s sold great either, and there were a lot more of those model wise.

Uncensored: MSI - we'll be sucking on GPP-stick, swallowing deeper than all GPP-subordinates.

The GPP was shut down 7 years ago, it was only around for 2 months. People keep claiming this is for GPP but cant seem to point ot any modern system they'd be using.

More likely to be MSI choosing to drop poor selling AMD cards during a recession.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Better not to release anything than putting out halfhearted products with poorly fitting heatsinks or lower quality components like their previous generation Radeon products IMHO.

 

[Nostras]

This smells like Nvidia has a hand in this decision. What MSI has been doing is obviously snubbing AMD.

Don't think so. Nvidia tried this before with Asus, MSI and Gigabyte. It was super apparent and the backlash was quite intense. It would make no sense whatsoever to do it again but only with MSI.
Considering MSI gradually winded down their business with AMD I think this has more to do with decision making of the higher ups.
Perhaps the death of the CEO of MSI in 2020 had something to do with it as someone else linked in this thread.

 

[ypsylon]

It's another big skip after MSI ignored Threadripper TRX50/WRX90 completely. They making only servers for EPYCs because that's where the $$$ is.

 

[JustBenching]

Likely they were treated like crap so they bailed amd and preferred doing business with a better company like nvidia.

I think we all know it's Nvidia, their anti-competitive practices are entirely blatant at this point. They didn't even allow MSI, Gigabyte, and ASUS to have their premium SKUs on AMD last gen at all either.

You mean powercolor, sapphire and xfx are making only amd cards cause of amd's anti competitive practices? Or does your argument only apply to nvidia because reasons?

 

[Denver]

Likely they were treated like crap so they bailed amd and preferred doing business with a better company like nvidia.


You mean powercolor, sapphire and xfx are making only amd cards cause of amd's anti competitive practices? Or does your argument only apply to nvidia because reasons?

Best joke I've read this year, thanks. Nvidia has already taken all the profit margins that AIBs once had. Even as a trillion-dollar company, they couldn’t just sell chips—they had to become VRAM scalpers too. This set off a chain reaction where no one can respect MSRP without sacrificing profit margins. That’s just a fact.

As for MSI abandoning AMD, the only reason is the market situation, they’re trying to make up for it by selling in volume.

 

[JustBenching]

Best joke I've read this year, thanks. Nvidia has already taken all the profit margins that AIBs once had. Even as a trillion-dollar company, they couldn’t just sell chips—they had to become VRAM scalpers too. This set off a chain reaction where no one can respect MSRP without sacrificing profit margins. That’s just a fact.

As for MSI abandoning AMD, the only reason is the market situation, they’re trying to make up for it by selling in volume.

You can't have your cake and eat it too. I know you want to, but you can't. AMD's anti competitive practices drives aibs away. God knows what they offer to powercolor sapphire etc to only make amd cards.

 

[Denver]

You can't have your cake and eat it too. I know you want to, but you can't. AMD's anti competitive practices drives aibs away. God knows what they offer to powercolor sapphire etc to only make amd cards.

You don't have to be a god to know why companies with limited capital focus on specific products to mitigate risks and don't venture out against fierce competition. Meanwhile, Nvidia's dirt continues to come to light, so let's learn something:

NVIDIA board partners focus on OC Models as GPU and VRAM make up 80% of costs - VideoCardz.com

Reviewer has a comparison of 28 RTX 5080 graphics cards Normally, in our roundups, we include one or two reviews from each media outlet at launch. Some reviewers have better industry contacts, allowing them to collect more cards for testing. Hardly anyone can compete with TechPowerUp, which...

videocardz.com

 

[TechBuyingHavoc]

I don’t think this is a terrible move. Clearly the vast majority of their sales is coming from nVidia, and for any AIB to have to spend R&D money, it needs to pay off. It doesn’t sound like they’ll be missed much from the Radeon crowd anyways.

It is a self-made problem for MSI. Radeon buyers are negative on MSI because the quality of their products was not up to par, thus probably not worth it for MSI to continue in this market. If MSI put more effort in, it would have been worth it so really the fault is solely with MSI if they couldn't make profits from AMD cards.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

You can't have your cake and eat it too. I know you want to, but you can't. AMD's anti competitive practices drives aibs away. God knows what they offer to powercolor sapphire etc to only make amd cards.

I sense schilling going on here. the only reason is profit margins, Nvidia partners have smaller margins vs AMD partners, but likely work out even in the end because of retain price differences.

If anyone has anti-competitive practices its nvidia. GPP redux.

 

[Bomby569]

i like MSI, not sure why all the hate. They probably were losing money, that's the one thing that makes sense. Low sales, R&D is expensive. This is on AMD not them

 

[Athlonite]

i like MSI, not sure why all the hate. They probably were losing money, that's the one thing that makes sense. Low sales, R&D is expensive. This is on AMD not them

It doesn't cost any R&D when you're reusing parts from previous gen AMD GPU's

Anywho who cares if MSI don't want to build AMD GPU's anymore they weren't doing a great job of it to start with so I don't think it's really any loss to consumers between Asus Asrock Powercolor Sapphire and XFX there's plenty of choice for us (and I spose Yeston if you like the waifu bs)

I can see that someday soon MSI will become the next EVGA like victim of nGreedia

 

[robiatti]

While for me MSI is typically fine as a brand , I don't buy their products due to aesthetics. That dragon logo is lame plastered everywhere.
I would rather play mortal kombat instead of displaying the logo all over my PC.

 

[Bomby569]

It doesn't cost any R&D when you're reusing parts from previous gen AMD GPU's

Anywho who cares if MSI don't want to build AMD GPU's anymore they weren't doing a great job of it to start with so I don't think it's really any loss to consumers between Asus Asrock Powercolor Sapphire and XFX there's plenty of choice for us (and I spose Yeston if you like the waifu bs)

I can see that someday soon MSI will become the next EVGA like victim of nGreedia

they were reusing because they barely sold any, so it's understandable. AMD shits the bed by not selling any cards, and you blame the AIB's?

 

[TechBuyingHavoc]

they were reusing because they barely sold any, so it's understandable. AMD shits the bed by not selling any cards, and you blame the AIB's?

MSI never had the best AMD cards, they were lower quality AND higher priced. You want a decent low priced AMD card, ASUS is a better choice than MSI. You want a "higher quality" card, Sapphire is better than MSI.

MSI got stuck in a bad market niche and they could not (or would not) compete out of that niche.

 

[Visible Noise]

It makes a lot of sense, you must be an MSI shareholder.
I asked for a source on MSI being the largest AIB motherboard maker, not a PDF of MSI claiming they're the best ever to their investors.

I just checked the the websites of the big three.
Not a single one of them are offering a current generation AMD GPU.

Why? Because it’s expensive to have multiple suppliers. If MSI doesn’t make it, they don’t sell it.

Nail 3,984 in the Radeon coffin.

 

[wNotyarD]

I just checked the the websites of the big three.
Not a single one of them are offering a current generation AMD GPU.

What big three? Asus, GB and MSI?

Asus has both Prime and TUF, GB has Gaming and Aorus Elite for their 9070s. Only MSI bitched out.