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"Radeon RX 570 is considerably faster" - All I needed to know.
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At the end it says the RX570 doesn't overclock that well...
Is that because it's locked at 1425mhz core?
I think 175mhz is more than "not that well".
Anyways I don't think it matters that this card isn't as fast as an RX570 since most of these will work on any machine that can fit it without any extra purchases which is the only reason Nvidia can charge what they are for this.
I paid $300 for higher end card in 2013 that required a 6pin an 8 pin power connection that was basically only as good as this card..
7 years later at 50% the cost and 4x as efficient seems to be mehhhh...mehhh well okay...price
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That's not the point and you know It.
You were saying how this card has a mediocre performance and poor value compared to RX570, I just pointed out a big disadvantage of RX570.
Some of you people are hilarious. You care how much you need to pay for a card or If It has the bet perf/price ratio but you totally don't care about how much more you need to pay on bills just to play games on this card.
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i'll be ready to retest in the coming weeks, with a ton of new games, 9900k etc. the problem is that these things take time (around two weeks of non-stop work), and i can't tell nvidia "hey, hold your launch until i'm finished retesting".why the hell does this site not re-test all the cards with proper up to date drivers
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i'll be ready to retest in the coming weeks, with a ton of new games, 9900k etc. the problem is that these things take time (around two weeks of non-stop work), and i can't tell nvidia "hey, hold your launch until i'm finished retesting".
the differences between drivers are almost negligible, as has been tested countless of times by many publications
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YesDoes your new test regime include DX12 Civilization 6? Ever since Gathering Storm expansion released, it seems to be the fastest API.
If you're really worried about the cost of running a GPU over a couple of years, and its only $45....which is $.04 a day, you might be in the wrong hobby.
People who buy exotic cares don't worry about how expensive the gasoline is.
Not in the 150$ range... I mean yeah, many people don't consider the difference in electric bills, but they should, especially if they game quite a bit, besides, fully OCed 1650 beats the 570 and if you also OC that one, the already unreasonable power consumption (and thats compared to the Pascal cards) goes through roof!If you're really worried about the cost of running a GPU over a couple of years, and its only $45....which is $.04 a day, you might be in the wrong hobby.
People who buy exotic cares don't worry about how expensive the gasoline is.
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It's fairly obvious they needed to control first impressions reviews. They got bumped from driverless cars so switched to driverless cards.No wonder nvidia had the drivers nonsense with reviewers, mediocre performance and poor value in comparison to a RX 570.
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My point being it doesn't make a significant impact on your bill, and there's something called undervolting which works best on vega but it's worth a shot on the RX 570 even which will drop power consumption a bit and it still kills the 1650 in performance.
MSRP would've been even higher.A little bit expensive for the performance. this GPU is choked by it's narrow memory bandwidth. they should have used GDDR6 on this GPU.
The effect is greater the higher up the frequency/power curve you are. AMD's older uarch has higher power draw given respective process node/target perf levels. NV buttons down power limits even more with Turing.I always hear this nonsense that "you can undervolt AMD cards" as if only AMD cards can do this. undervolting works on all cards including Nvidia.
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Most 1650 will not have a 6-pin.I know the reason for the six pin connector is if you want to OC the card but I thought the whole point of these GTX 1650s was for people who just want to stick one into their DELL, ACER, HP, etc., and not worry about swapping out a higher power PSU.
It's not about peak power usage of the household (although I know people who worry about it as well because of solar power or tariffs).Really? If you're that worried about the power consumption I hope you're using expensive TV's and Fridges that are energy efficient too.
1650 is a mainstream consumer card. You can't expect these people to undervolt.My point being it doesn't make a significant impact on your bill, and there's something called undervolting which works best on vega but it's worth a shot on the RX 570 even which will drop power consumption a bit and it still kills the 1650 in performance.
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I do notdo you have a reference/75W card without 6-pin connector to review?
yup, coming within the next few hours, it's still overclocked out of the box, with 75 W power limit, so not exactly reference eitherThere is Palit StormX in some of the tables, is that going to get a separate review?
I know the reason for the six pin connector is if you want to OC the card but I thought the whole point of these GTX 1650s was for people who just want to stick one into their DELL, ACER, HP, etc., and not worry about swapping out a higher power PSU.
Yup. Very much the expected outcome. 30% more than the predecessor. Typical for Nvidia.The card itself is fine, 35% faster than 1050Ti in 1080p, the thing that ruins it is the price! Way too high for this performance level
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Reviewers are getting the fastest versions of the cards. This is similar to the 1050Ti, where AIB cards could be up to 120W (although few had TDP set that high).What's the pont of advertising 75W "no power connector" needed when nearly every card released thus far needs it![]()
Processor | R5 5600X |
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Motherboard | ASUS ROG STRIX B550-I GAMING |
Cooling | Alpenföhn Black Ridge |
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I would say the opposite. GTX 950 was not really the GTX 750Ti lineage with the primary TDP being set to 90W and some LP variants at 75W. Looks like GTX 750Ti's real successor was GTX 1050Ti and now GTX 1650. The difference is in where the primary TDP is placed. In case of GTX 750Ti, GTX 1050Ti and GTX 1650, it is 75W. All do have more hungry variants but this is where the primary one is located at. GTX 950 was different - the primary TDP is 90W with 75W LP as secondary option.I get that but Nvidia is selling this as a feature, isn't it? This card is similar to the GTX 950 LP, not really a successor of the 750Ti lineage.