MSI GeForce GTX 980 Ti Gaming 6 GB

[human_error]

what i'm complaining about is that my card has a different bios, which causes a different mode to be default than retail cards. you can not permanently switch modes, you need to install and run their software at every reboot to do that.

Seems odd that they do this - they're either saying that the retail cards are clocked lower for no reason or that they're cherry picking cards for reviewers and giving them better clocks. Could be worth down-clocking the review cards to retail levels on future reviews if they let you know of the clock disparity before you start reviewing.

 

[haswrong]

w1zzard, the project CARS benchmark is including anti-aliasing or without any form of aa?

 

[pat-roner]

that is correct


what i'm complaining about is that my card has a different bios, which causes a different mode to be default than retail cards. you can not permanently switch modes, you need to install and run their software at every reboot to do that.

Mr. W1zzard,
I just got this card, and this may be a stupid question, but since your BIOS is "better" can I flash my card with your BIOS and get the same clocks?

Thanks

 

[toyota]

How do you know? Are you mad it's boosting higher than yours?

it is boosting by 52 mhz more than my card. I dont know why you cant get through your head why its wrong to have review cards with higher clocks than what retail will get.

 

[toyota]

that is correct


what i'm complaining about is that my card has a different bios, which causes a different mode to be default than retail cards. you can not permanently switch modes, you need to install and run their software at every reboot to do that.

so can you answer my earlier question about the power target? guru3d showed 120% in their review so what did yours show when you where ocing as the retail cards only show 109.

 

[Fluffmeister]

it is boosting by 52 mhz more than my card. I dont know why you cant get through your head why its wrong to have review cards with higher clocks than what retail will get.

52Mhz!?!?!

Yeah, I'm not sure how you sleep at night.

 

[toyota]

52Mhz!?!?!

Yeah, I'm not sure how you sleep at night.

you clearly lack the mental capacity to understand what is being said no matter how many times you are told. I manually oc the card so that does not matter. what matters is that review cards look faster than what they really are. and other reviewers are also showing 120% power limit where the retail cards are only showing 109% which limits the max clocks the card can maintain when overclocking. bottom line is that its misleading as the card is faster than retail cards by default and offers more potential max overclocking than the retail card. now please stay out of the conversation if you have nothing halfway useful or intelligent to add.

 

[haswrong]

52Mhz!?!?!

Yeah, I'm not sure how you sleep at night.

but you nailed it.. i had problems sleeping when i couldnt get my 670 to boost over 1300. it stopped at 1293. i was MAD about it! some people here should understand..

 

[Fluffmeister]

but you nailed it.. i had problems sleeping when i couldnt get my 670 to boost over 1300. it stopped at 1293. i was MAD about it! some people here should understand..

Indeed, for the record my MSI 970 is a terrible overclocker/booster, I read about all these endless people banging on about their 1500Mhz+ boost clocks, when mine barely does 1400 odd without artifacting.

But your're right toyota, I'll move on, it's clear to me you're extremely anal and your boring me too.

Enjoy your card.

 

[josho86]

wow i was expecting this card to be quieter then 37 dbA....but still a very good card indeed

fingers crossed the "Asus 980ti strix" will be around the 30 - 34 dbA mark.

 

[ZeroFM]

soon asus 980ti review ?

 

[Vyse]

can someone explain why tomb raider has better performance at 4k then 1440p?

 

[Joss]

can someone explain why tomb raider has better performance at 4k then 1440p?

The tables seam to be swapped.

 

[haswrong]

can someone explain why tomb raider has better performance at 4k then 1440p?

becasue theres no aa in 4k?

 

[W1zzard]

becasue theres no aa in 4k?

that

 

[satikcz]

Indeed, for the record my MSI 970 is a terrible overclocker/booster, I read about all these endless people banging on about their 1500Mhz+ boost clocks, when mine barely does 1400 odd without artifacting.

Then you must have been very unlucky and I probably very lucky my MSI GTX 970 Gaming was able to go up to 1562MHz/7900MHz (boosting to 1575 MHz in some cases) with just +20 mV...

Spoiler: my MSI GTX 970 Gaming OC screen

Back to MSI GTX 980Ti Gaming - I got it OC to 1500 MHz with quite big voltage increase, now I am running it just fine on 1450 MHz with med voltage increase (arround +50 mV).

I can try in the evening at home how high will it boost with default settings.

 

[psychok9]

I've buyed a MSI GTX 980TI GAMING 6G... and I get hot temperature in OC.
1480MHz/1,205v (+38mv)/83°c/90%(!) fan speed.
My case is Case HAF XM with 200mm side fan.

Is it normal? I expected better...

Do you test card on open space or within a case?

 

[W1zzard]

What temps do you get with stock everything ?

 

[psychok9]

What temps do you get with stock everything ?

77°c/72% fan speed after some minutes in Unigine Heaven.
But still goes higher... now 79°c.

 

[satikcz]

psychok9: That is quite high temp, mine temps were lower even when there was 30°C in room in those hot days.
What is your airflow in your case? Do you have good cable management for minimal breaking of airflow?
I have case Fractal Define XL R2 with 3 intake Noctua fans - one bottom, two front - and 3 outtake Noctua fans - one in the back, two in the top - (no fans on sides, it would break my airflow) running at 400 (idle) - 700 (in heavy load) rpm and my temps were arround 78°C with +60mV and 1500MHz in Furmark (1600 rpm on gpu fan).
All above infos are with MSI TwinFrozr.

There is screen of my airflow (with my old GTX 970, did not take photo with GTX 980Ti).


I was quite happy with the Twin Frozr, but my PC is Ultra-Low-Noise (CPU 400-900 rpm, case 400-800 rpm), so I changed the cooling to Raijintek Morpheus with 2 Noctua fans and now it is running in 400-900rpm with 71°C on 1450 MHz and +40 mV in Furmark.

This screen is with Morpheus cooler:

You can also notice in GPU-Z max temp was 78°C (that was with +87mV) and max core was 1539 MHz, but that was not stable.

 

[psychok9]

This is my case (I cleaned a bit after this photos lol):
http://imgur.com/a/a5TQt#0
I've 1x20cmx700rpm front intake , 1x20cmx700rpm side intake, 1x14cmx1250rpm on back out-take, 1x20cm out take on top and another 1x12cm on top (out take).

I removed the dust filter on the side and I removed the top cover of the case (HAF XM).
Now I'm getting 75°c/70% fan speed. It seems better! What do you think?
Unfortunately, it is dangerous without the "cover".

 

[satikcz]

I am not familiar with the case, so I am not sure about the top cover.

Seems this case is not too so well prepared for better airflow - only one front intake and no bottom intake.

Also may be the soundcard can increase the temps.

But 75°C is quite fine for card with this power consumption

 

[Joss]

I've 1x20cmx700rpm front intake , 1x20cmx700rpm side intake, 1x14cmx1250rpm on back out-take, 1x20cm out take on top and another 1x12cm on top (out take).

That's more than enough airflow, and I mean more than, I'm also familiar with the HAF XM.
Search for your issue somewhere else.

I removed the dust filter on the side and I removed the top cover of the case (HAF XM).

That's because you're daft.

 

[psychok9]

That's more than enough airflow, and I mean more than, I'm also familiar with the HAF XM.
Search for your issue somewhere else.

That's because you're daft.

Is it a popular case problem ?
You think that I'm stupid because I don't want dust on vga...?
It was a normal dust filter (and it was clean!)... but maybe the fan is very weak and it can't do enough pressure.

I am not familiar with the case, so I am not sure about the top cover.

Seems this case is not too so well prepared for better airflow - only one front intake and no bottom intake.

Also may be the soundcard can increase the temps.

But 75°C is quite fine for card with this power consumption

On bottom I've the PSU with its fan.

Yeah 75°c is fine now... but I can't leave the case open.
My previous card was a 280X, and temps wasn't so bad.

 

[Joss]

Is it a popular case problem ?
You think that I'm stupid because I don't want dust on vga...?

When I said daft I meant it as a joke, you don't need to take dust filters out, let alone the top cover.
The temps you are seeing are not normal for the airflow you have, the problem is not the case.