MSI GeForce RTX 3090 Gaming X Trio

[lexluthermiester]

Not much to say about the card (fast, expensive, power hungry), but I don't recall ever seeing a review including 9 GPUs were AMD only had one entry. And at the bottom of the charts. That's so sad...

Wait a few weeks. AMD's new hotness is incoming. Could get very interesting. AMD is giving Intel hell in the CPU arena. There is the possibility that they will give NVidia some grief as well.

 

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Wait a few weeks. AMD's new hotness is incoming. Could get very interesting. AMD is giving Intel hell in the CPU arena. There is the possibility that they will give NVidia some grief as well.

I've lost count for how many generations I've been hearing that song. This time I don't expect anything but a tweaked RDNA with RTRT slapped on (probably Frankenstein style).
Wishing for AMD to prove me wrong, of course.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I've lost count for how many generations I've been hearing that song. This time I don't expect anything but a tweaked RDNA with RTRT slapped on (probably Frankenstein style).
Wishing for AMD to prove me wrong, of course.

What are you talking about? It was only a few years ago Radeon's were cleaning NVidia's clocks. It's bound to happen again..

 

[ARF]

Sorry but why do we have to wait?
The consoles were unveiled many months ago? And still no word about new GPUs?

 

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What are you talking about? It was only a few years ago Radeon's were cleaning NVidia's clocks. It's bound to happen again..

Idk, last I remember AMD dominating the high end was back in Fermi days. They've only had like a couple decent mid-rangers since.

 

[ARF]

What are you talking about? It was only a few years ago Radeon's were cleaning NVidia's clocks. It's bound to happen again..

This time AMD needs to really release a groundbreaking, innovative architecture because the performance deficit at the moment is gigantic and there are no conventional, evolutionary steps over GCN or RDNA 1 which AMD could potentially take in order to at the very least catch and be at performance parity.

Idk, last I remember AMD dominating the high end was back in Fermi days. They've only had like a couple decent mid-rangers since.

R9 Fury X was on par with GTX 980 Ti but was under engineered with 4 GB of VRAM.

 

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R9 Fury X was on par with GTX 980 Ti but was under engineered with 4 GB of VRAM.

It was slightly slower. And it ate a lot more power. Hence the undervolting and other tricks users used to resort to.
I would also argue it was overengineered to use HBM. That probably killed it.

 

[brown66]

a) People who do rendering or other workstation apps and don't want to buld 2 ststems.
b) Peeps with Wheaties Box Syndrome .... in the Olympics, the difference between Gold and Silver is often fractions of a second. The Gold winner gets their pic on the Wheaties box and millions in endorsements. The silver winner goes home and takes a job selling cars or insurance.
c) The same peeps who bought a 24 core threadripper for a gaming box cause someone told them more cores is better.




The fact remains ... it is a very capable workstation card regardless of the label one puts on it. People bought a Titan when they needed a box to do rendering thereby necessitating a Quadro ... but they also wanted to enjoy gaming for which the Quadro was ill suited. The Titan offered a great compromise for far less cost than building two systems. People who bought the Titan for this reason will still buy the 3090 which is 3 to 13 times faster in rendering.

But there's always the subset of folks who weigh Return on Investment by factors other than performance gained versus cash invested. For some, the return is perceived increased social standing that comes with having the fastest or being the first to have it. These are the folks standing on lines to buy the new phone ... because some review said it's faster ... I don't talk that fast.

The dude in marketing who came up with the idea of dropping the Titan moniker and using 3090 should get a fat bonus .... the subset of gamers, with money to burn, will jump at this.




Jensen for one in the release presentation. But anyone who had had a Titan will want a 3090 ... I own an engineering consulting firm, build all or our PCs and have been doing so for this office and others for almost 30 years. The fact is AutoCAD runs great on GTX / RTX ... has always been the better option .... 2D / 3D AutoCAD has consistently performed better or equal to the most expensive Quadro cards allowing the realization of huge cost savings while costing up to $4000. The area where quadro excels is in rendering which makes it well suited for other AuotoDesk products like Solid Works, some AutoDesk applications will not even run on GTX / RTX. An architectural / engineering office will rarely ever be called upon to create a rendering of their 2D / 3D CAD drawings .... most, when needed send it out. Those that do might have one (1) rendering box for every 10 or 20 AutoCAD boxes. Those that need to render, will want the 3090 because it is up to 13 times faster than the 3080.

And one for Wizzard .....

... " the card introduces the Tri Frozr 2 cooling solution with many segment-first features." ... any info on what these segment first features might be ?

Yes MSI introduced "Zero Frozr " (passive cooling) in 2008 and then "Hybrid Frozr, " (independent fan contro) in 2014 with the 9xx series .... but looking at the MSI site, didn't see anything I could call a "segment 1st feature";

Torx Fan 4.0 - the 4.0 kinda suggests there's nothing new here ... but closer inspection reveals that each pair of fan blades has an out ring which, theoretically at least, should reduce blowby. Does it work ? Whose gonna test ? No one wanna cut off the ring and do a before and after ?

Core Pipe- details heat pipe design improvements ... again nothing to be excited about but, again theoretically, the dull contact of rectangular pipes should be more efficient than circular / ovoid shaped one with 1 side flattened. And as much as I prefer MSI's approach to the heat / noise balance (MSI is 9 dbA quieter / Asus is 9C cooler) ... would like to see with both at max load and the fan curve tuned to the same dbA.

Airflow Control - Yeah, good idea to optimize but that's hardly new. From the review pics and even MSI site, hard to see or understand why curvey fin edges improve cooling.

Love the included support bracket but would rather see it attached to the shroud frame or metal backplate

Sorry my English. It's not my native language.

a) I don't render and I don't use workstation apps.
b) I think I'm not a peeps with Wheaties Box Syndrome.
c) And I'm not the peeps who bought a 24 core threadripper for a gaming box cause someone told them more cores is better. One month ago I had a Ryzen 5 1600X, that I bought more than two years ago, and now I have i7 10700K.

So, why I bought this MSI RTX 3090 Gaming X Trio yesterday?

Because I am a fanatic Skyrim player and to play this game at 4k resolution, loaded with 4K textures, neither the 11 GB of VRam of the GTX 1080Ti that I own is enough, not to mention the measly 10 GB of the RTX 3080.

Theoretically, the minimum would be 16Gb, but I have already tried using 8K textures, which are simply fabulous, so I ended up buying a graphics card that cost 1600 € (a little more than 1600 $), but has 24Gb of VRam.

As you can see, in the gaming world, it's not just the maximum FPS at 1080P or 1440P that matters. VRam's capacity and maximum performance at 4k also count a lot for some other players

 

[lexluthermiester]

So, why I bought this MSI RTX 3090 Gaming X Trio yesterday?

Because I am a fanatic Skyrim player and to play this game at 4k resolution, loaded with 4K textures, neither the 11 GB of VRam of the GTX 1080Ti that I own is enough, not to mention the measly 10 GB of the RTX 3080.

Theoretically, the minimum would be 16Gb, but I have already tried using 8K textures, which are simply fabulous, so I ended up buying a graphics card that cost 1600 € (a little more than 1600 $), but has 24Gb of VRam.

That's as good a reason as any and the only one you need to justify the purchase for yourself. You will enjoy your new gaming experience with that card.

 

[W1zzard]

That's as good a reason as any and the only one you need to justify the purchase for yourself. You will enjoy your new gaming experience with that card.

There's so much discussion and drama on the forums recently about hardware and this is really the only thing that matters

 

[owen10578]

Hey w1zzard I forgot to mention this back then when this went live but the DrMOS you listed are wrong. It uses OnSemi NCP302145 for the vCore not OnSemi NCP302150.

 

[LeylaBay]

Sorry my English. It's not my native language.

a) I don't render and I don't use workstation apps.
b) I think I'm not a peeps with Wheaties Box Syndrome.
c) And I'm not the peeps who bought a 24 core threadripper for a gaming box cause someone told them more cores is better. One month ago I had a Ryzen 5 1600X, that I bought more than two years ago, and now I have i7 10700K.

So, why I bought this MSI RTX 3090 Gaming X Trio yesterday?

Because I am a fanatic Skyrim player and to play this game at 4k resolution, loaded with 4K textures, neither the 11 GB of VRam of the GTX 1080Ti that I own is enough, not to mention the measly 10 GB of the RTX 3080.

Theoretically, the minimum would be 16Gb, but I have already tried using 8K textures, which are simply fabulous, so I ended up buying a graphics card that cost 1600 € (a little more than 1600 $), but has 24Gb of VRam.

As you can see, in the gaming world, it's not just the maximum FPS at 1080P or 1440P that matters. VRam's capacity and maximum performance at 4k also count a lot for some other players

Thank you! Because I just spent $2000 to buy this beast as my 12yo son’s Christmas present from eBay, just so I don’t hear about graphics cards anymore! At least I know now he might use over 10gb memory one day and will appreciate my sacrifice on new YSL boots