MSI GeForce RTX 5090 Suprim SOC

[lexluthermiester]

Sanyo Denki's San Ace manual.

https://www.sanyodenki.com/archive/document/product/cooling/San_Ace_M0011876.pdf

Not sure what is different about SanyoDenki's design, but BB fans in general use chrome steel balls. Perhaps they are using something more fragile and should be avoided.

That is the main point here.

Regardless, the concerns you're expressing about the type of fan motor bearings used is not a concern you should focus greatly on.

I am not interested, at all, in a contest about who is more of a fan expert. This happens every time fans come up and I was bored of it years ago when I first experienced this phenomenon.

That's an interesting attitude to take when you came here asking for input on a subject you seem to know little about. There's no shame in asking for input and advice. It is however very rude to smammer about with attitude when someone offers input that you have never crossed paths with. Just throwing it out there. It's a kind of foolishness that some don't suffer lightly, myself included.

 

[SRS]

That's an interesting attitude to take when you came here asking for input on a subject you seem to know little about. There's no shame in asking for input and advice. It is however very rude to smammer about with attitude when someone offers input that you have never crossed paths with. Just throwing it out there. It's a kind of foolishness that some don't suffer lightly, myself included.

I posted to provide feedback for the reviewer, W1zzard. Now... please excuse me so I can begin building your statue.

 

[W1zzard]

Does the SUPRIM use phase change TIM or just regular thermal paste on the GPU? The card looks great but if it only uses paste I’m concerned that it will pump out very quickly on such a large and power-hungry die. This was an issue on some 4090 cards and replacing the stock paste with PTM would solve it completely.

Normal paste, if you're concerned just replace it with what you prefer, takes 10 minutes. Very easy disassembly

 

[jnv11]

Does this card only have one fuse which is located near the PCI Express motherboard connector near the bottom of the card, or does this card have additional fuses that I have not been able to find? I have been looking at the PCB photos linked from https://www.techpowerup.com/review/msi-geforce-rtx-5090-suprim/5.html and have been only able to find one fuse on the card's front near the PCI Express motherboard connector and the VRM phases. This fuse is labeled "F1". The card's web page advertises "fuses" in the phrase "Additional fuses built into the custom PCB provide additional safeguards against electrical damage." at https://us.msi.com/Graphics-Card/GeForce-RTX-5090-32G-SUPRIM-OC . Also, what do the fuse or fuses protect? As far as I can guess, fuse F1 would prevent the card from overdrawing power from the PCI Express motherboard connector if something shorts out and the fuse is in between the short and the motherboard PCI Express connector.

I am wondering if this could possibly be a translation error because I learned that singularity or plurality is not that strongly typed in Japanese when I tried and failed to learn that language in college, so I am wondering if Chinese could also be not so strongly typed by singularity or plurality as English is and therefore requires context to either determine whether a noun is singular or plural, or if the translator would have to either guess or write a whole bunch of words to explain that the translator cannot determine whether the noun is supposed to be singular or plural.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Does this card only have one fuse which is located near the PCI Express motherboard connector near the bottom of the card, or does this card have additional fuses that I have not been able to find? I have been looking at the PCB photos linked from https://www.techpowerup.com/review/msi-geforce-rtx-5090-suprim/5.html and have been only able to find one fuse on the card's front near the PCI Express motherboard connector and the VRM phases. This fuse is labeled "F1". The card's web page advertises "fuses" in the phrase "Additional fuses built into the custom PCB provide additional safeguards against electrical damage." at https://us.msi.com/Graphics-Card/GeForce-RTX-5090-32G-SUPRIM-OC . Also, what do the fuse or fuses protect? As far as I can guess, fuse F1 would prevent the card from overdrawing power from the PCI Express motherboard connector if something shorts out and the fuse is in between the short and the motherboard PCI Express connector.

I am wondering if this could possibly be a translation error because I learned that singularity or plurality is not that strongly typed in Japanese when I tried and failed to learn that language in college, so I am wondering if Chinese could also be not so strongly typed by singularity or plurality as English is and therefore requires context to either determine whether a noun is singular or plural, or if the translator would have to either guess or write a whole bunch of words to explain that the translator cannot determine whether the noun is supposed to be singular or plural.

While that's an interesting set of thoughts, I have a question for you: Why do you care about fuses? The main purpose of a fuse is to protect a circuit from an overload situation and will they blow/trip should it be subjected to one.

If you're really worried about the kinds of problems one would need a fuse for, you should be focusing on a power line conditioner for your home, a quality UPS with solid surge protection for your PC to plug into and a quality PSU for the PC itself. The fuses on the card are quite literally the absolute last thing you should be concerned with when discussing GPU(or any other part within a PC) power delivery.

 

[jnv11]

While that's an interesting set of thoughts, I have a question for you: Why do you care about fuses? The main purpose of a fuse is to protect a circuit from an overload situation and will they blow/trip should it be subjected to one.

If you're really worried about the kinds of problems one would need a fuse for, you should be focusing on a power line conditioner for your home, a quality UPS with solid surge protection for your PC to plug into and a quality PSU for the PC itself. The fuses on the card are quite literally the absolute last thing you should be concerned with when discussing GPU(or any other part within a PC) power delivery.

If you have watched various YouTube channels of repair technicians repairing video cards, you would have seen problems other than power delivery itself that cause fuses to blow like DrMOS stages or VRAM chips that were once good but developed a short circuit, causing a fuse to blow. Had the fuse not blown, the short circuit could have fried more components of the video card or have damaged PC components outside of the video card like the motherboard or power supply unit by overdrawing power from the motherboard PCI Express connector or one of the power input sockets. Buildzoid shows in

how the fuses in an MSI RTX 4090 Suprim X or Suprim Liquid X can protect the video card when something fails. For example, a memory VRM short circuit can fry the GPU chip itself if a fuse does not blow.

Take a look at

to see a video card with a blown fuse get repaired to see that the card developed a short circuit behind the fuse, so the technician replaced the shorted out part and then the fuse.

See

and

to see what repair technicians had to do with video cards that developed short circuits which did much more damage that blown fuses could have stopped.

 

[Bwaze]

MSI Says it Won't Have Enough RTX 50 Series GPUs on 30th January Due to Insufficient Supply from NVIDIA​

This time, we have an official confirmation about the RTX 50 series shortage from NVIDIA's board partner, MSI. We have reported recently that several sources have confirmed that there won't be enough RTX 50 series GPUs at the launch time, and this will be particularly serious for the RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 launches.

As we reported previously, this was reportedly due to poor communication between NVIDIA and its board partners. Apparently, most AIBs didn't get enough chips to make their custom editions, and we have heard reports that some retailers have gotten the RTX 5090 in just single digits. In some regions, the RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 prices have soared to the point that they are now at twice the official MSRP.

 

[lexluthermiester]

If you have watched various YouTube channels of repair technicians repairing video cards, you would have seen problems other than power delivery itself that cause fuses to blow like DrMOS stages or VRAM chips that were once good but developed a short circuit, causing a fuse to blow. Had the fuse not blown, the short circuit could have fried more components of the video card or have damaged PC components outside of the video card like the motherboard or power supply unit by overdrawing power from the motherboard PCI Express connector or one of the power input sockets. Buildzoid shows in

how the fuses in an MSI RTX 4090 Suprim X or Suprim Liquid X can protect the video card when something fails. For example, a memory VRM short circuit can fry the GPU chip itself if a fuse does not blow.

Take a look at

to see a video card with a blown fuse get repaired to see that the card developed a short circuit behind the fuse, so the technician replaced the shorted out part and then the fuse.

See

and

to see what repair technicians had to do with video cards that developed short circuits which did much more damage that blown fuses could have stopped.

That was a very interesting response. It doesn't negate the fact that PCB mounted fuses very rarely blow and everything that feeds the GPU power is of MUCH greater concern. PCB mounted fuses are of very little concern. Consider your PSU, UPS/Surge protector more carefully.