MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X 8 GB

[HammerON]

Interesting card...
Thanks for the review

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Thery arent the same....

More pipes?

 

[Nokiron]

I wouldnt call it a 'new' or 'newest' cooler. My 970s have the exact same cooler mounted and ive had them from the first day they were made available in the UK.

Not the same. Different heatpipe layout, better heatpipe placement, slightly larger aswell as better board cooling.

 

[Krahl]

Thanks for the review W1zzard. It is indeed a very interesting card albeit it comes at a premium pricing

I'm quite a bit curious as to what brands you'll be reviewing this time around for the 1070/1080 cards? Will we be seeing the Gainward/Palit cards as I'm finding those brands increasingly solid and well-rounded in pricing/performance/vs the more well-known brands

 

[P4-630]

Well I own one! Very pleased with it!
I'm using afterburner for a fan profile, at idle I let the fans spin at a quiet 1000rpm.
Temps idle 29 degrees with 23 degrees room temp.
Once I play GTA V, the temps stay just over 40s in Los Santos and can run up to 50s in Blaine County.
Pretty cool card!

I did not OC the card myself yet, for benchmarking I use MSI Gaming App (yeah it's crap I know) for the higher clocks temporary.

 

[jihadjoe]

Holy cow! OC performance actually brings it up to par with a (stock) 1080.
Very impressed.

 

[Caring1]

Holy cow! OC performance actually brings it up to par with a (stock) 1080.
Very impressed.

Not even close, if you see the top bar in the FireStrike picture, that is 980 SLI, which is roughly a stock 1080.

 

[SpAwNtoHell]

Thank you w1zzard for a great review, but as i was so annoyed i could not get 1080 msi gaming x on stock i jumped on this one a while back, tho 5 min later after buying it was out of stock so was a impulse buy really. You just confirmed to me that i did not do a bad choice... is indeed silent and great performance... my one lives in a itx case(very tight i know...) and never went over 70 Celsius what i noticed tho in most of the games from this review, as i have half of them with Pascal i5 starts to be a bottleneck? i7 seems to push extra 10-15% over i5 at least with this card... and seems i have to upgrade from i5 6600k to i7 6700k...

 

[P4-630]

@W1zzard I see I got the same VBIOS as your review card, so it seems I got a review sample with the higher default clocks?

Mine:

Boost clock core OC mode to 2012MHz memory @2025MHz OC mode.

 

[EarthDog]

Seems you have a modified version or something... I have the 'review sample'/OC BIOS and its base clocks are 1607/2027. I boost to 2012 and after like 64C drop to 1987 Mhz...


You BIOS version is different than mine as well.. I show 86.04.1E.00.40. It appears neither card you linked above has the OC BIOS on it.

See attachment for what the OC Bios is...

 

[P4-630]

Seems you have a modified version or something... I have the 'review sample'/OC BIOS and its base clocks are 1607/2027. I boost to 2012 and after like 64C drop to 1987 Mhz...


You BIOS version is different than mine as well.. I show 86.04.1E.00.40. It appears neither card you linked above has the OC BIOS on it.

The GPU-Z screenshot above mine is from @W1zzard his card from the review.

 

[EarthDog]

Well aware of that...(dont care who's it is honestly though)!

My point still remains...the OC Bios clocks or OC Mode clocks are 1607/2027..

Boost Clock / Base Clock
1797 MHz / 1607 MHz (OC Mode)
https://us.msi.com/Graphics-card/GEFORCE-GTX-1070-GAMING-X-8G.html

Though oddly enough their site shows 2002 in OC Mode... perhaps I have the weird BIOS, LOL!

But yeah, that is what mine defaults at. If I flash to normal BIOS and hit OC Mode, it goes to 2027 for me...


You do realize that every time you post the @UserName you are sending them notifications, right?

 

[P4-630]

You do realize that every time you post the @UserName you are sending them notifications, right?

Well aware of that.....I did that on purpose because I asked W1z..

I also see different clocks on various sites that have tested this card.

Example:
"The memory comes in at 8108 MHz GDDR5 which yields 256 GB/s bandwidth. Base clock speed for the Pascal core comes in at a whopping 1582 MHz by default with a 1771 MHz boost clock…which we all know they end up boosting much higher. In the case of this card, we hit 1987 MHz out of the box (using the OC Mode)."

http://www.overclockers.com/msi-gtx-1070-gaming-x-8g-video-card-review/

Well mine does 2012MHz OC mode.

 

[EarthDog]

Twice you sent notifications, LOL.

Anyway... not sure.. As I said, mine, which is reportedly OC Mode, is 1607/1797 boost/2027.

 

[JTwrenn]

Any chance of getting the power listing when in silent gaming mode? Wondering if it will pull the same as stock or more because of the different pwm. We have a location with some heating problems and are looking for something extra efficient, but want the better cooling of these cards as well.

 

[SpAwNtoHell]

Any chance of getting the power listing when in silent gaming mode? Wondering if it will pull the same as stock or more because of the different pwm. We have a location with some heating problems and are looking for something extra efficient, but want the better cooling of these cards as well.

Are you woried about psu or the cooling of the card? My personal experience with the card tho i jumped and bought it before this review is that my psu fan never comes on, system fan and cpu never went above 1000 rpm, system fan stays mostly off and only kicks in when 35 celsius is registered by motherbord. As for this card, i rarely see the fans come on and i have it in gaming mode. The average room temperature where i keep the itx unit is 35 celsius. The top temperature registered of the card in stres test was 71cesius but it hoovers from mid 50 celsius to low 60's in gaming.

Hope it helps, myself never dreamed i will get something to ron this cool eficient and with almost no noise as i can distinguish only a faded fan sound only at night if i pay atention.

 

[JTwrenn]

Are you woried about psu or the cooling of the card? My personal experience with the card tho i jumped and bought it before this review is that my psu fan never comes on, system fan and cpu never went above 1000 rpm, system fan stays mostly off and only kicks in when 35 celsius is registered by motherbord. As for this card, i rarely see the fans come on and i have it in gaming mode. The average room temperature where i keep the itx unit is 35 celsius. The top temperature registered of the card in stres test was 71cesius but it hoovers from mid 50 celsius to low 60's in gaming.

Hope it helps, myself never dreamed i will get something to ron this cool eficient and with almost no noise as i can distinguish only a faded fan sound only at night if i pay atention.

Worried about the heating of the room, so all about the wattage going into the card. We are looking for the best card to keep that down and I am hoping to see the amount of wattage used at different settings. I think the wattage in the review is all on the OC setting, but that is also tricky as it seems like different cards get different OC settings. Would love to see the other 2 settings especially the lower power/silent mode. Thanks for the reply though, any info on this is good info.

 

[spradhan01]

I was looking for a 1070 FTW review but couldn't find one anywhere. Would you recommend 1070 FTW or 1070 Gaming X?

 

[EarthDog]

Same shhhhhhh different piles honestly. They are both aftermarket PCB, and have aftermarket cooling. So it comes down to looks and price honestly.

Worried about the heating of the room, so all about the wattage going into the card. We are looking for the best card to keep that down and I am hoping to see the amount of wattage used at different settings. I think the wattage in the review is all on the OC setting, but that is also tricky as it seems like different cards get different OC settings. Would love to see the other 2 settings especially the lower power/silent mode. Thanks for the reply though, any info on this is good info.

Unless you are in a closet, a few watts different won't matter bud.

 

[JTwrenn]

Same shhhhhhh different piles honestly. They are both aftermarket PCB, and have aftermarket cooling. So it comes down to looks and price honestly.

Unless you are in a closet, a few watts different won't matter bud.

2 systems under the same desk with low air flow....doesn't matter much to the room but the heat build up under the desk can suck. Just curious really probably going for it anyway but seems like power numbers for the 3 modes would be a good thing to have.

Same shhhhhhh different piles honestly. They are both aftermarket PCB, and have aftermarket cooling. So it comes down to looks and price honestly.

Unless you are in a closet, a few watts different won't matter bud.

Sorry realized i didn't add the real reason for wanting as long a number as possible...this is all about convincing my wife to let me buy them sooner. The cards we have now are 2 gtx 970 msi g4s. They run pretty hot but down clocking would mess with performance. The 1070 has enough performance that going to silent mode wouldn't but me. So I am hoping for as much firepower as possible before pushing the cards. Also, I want to make sure I don't say "hey these will produce less heat" and turn out to be a liar.

 

[EarthDog]

They may be around the same temperature... but its putting out a lot less heat. Tell it to her like this (the truth):

Which is hotter? A lighter with a yellow flame or a bonfire with a yellow flame? The answer...... same temp. But CLEARLY a bonfire has a lot more energy behind it. Same thing here. 300W @ 70C is a lot more difficult to cool than 150W at 70C.

The difference is a couple of watts. The profiles MSI or other makers put on are such a small overclock and they don't touch voltage so... like I said, a few-several watts difference at most between default and OC profile.

 

[JTwrenn]

They may be around the same temperature... but its putting out a lot less heat. Tell it to her like this (the truth):

Which is hotter? A lighter with a yellow flame or a bonfire with a yellow flame? The answer...... same temp. But CLEARLY a bonfire has a lot more energy behind it. Same thing here. 300W @ 70C is a lot more difficult to cool than 150W at 70C.

The difference is a couple of watts. The profiles MSI or other makers put on are such a small overclock and they don't touch voltage so... like I said, a few-several watts difference at most between default and OC profile.

Uhm...totally fine with explaining this to her...would just like the numbers. I get that you disagree and think it will be a small amount...I would like to know what that amount is. If nobody deems to help that is fine, I will find it on my own.

 

[Caring1]

MSI GTX 1070 Gaming

MSI GTX 970 Gaming

Looks like we have a winner.
The 970 runs cooler, but the 1070 performs better.

 

[EarthDog]

Uhm...totally fine with explaining this to her...would just like the numbers. I get that you disagree and think it will be a small amount...I would like to know what that amount is. If nobody deems to help that is fine, I will find it on my own.

I gave you the numbers in that post... The GTX 970 is a 150W card. Two in SLI is 300W. A single 1070 is a 150W card.

 

[JTwrenn]

MSI GTX 1070 Gaming

MSI GTX 970 Gaming

Looks like we have a winner.
The 970 runs cooler, but the 1070 performs better.

GPU temps don't matter for this. That is more cooling based. Looking at amount of energy dumped into a room