MSI Releases Firmware with 105W TDP Option for Ryzen 5 9600X and Ryzen 7 9700X

[Nater]

Well Lunar Lake and Arrow Lake are still on time and Lunar Lake launches this week.

You really expecting things to change that drastically? I don't think we're going to see a Pentium 4 --> Core transition quite yet. I fully expect a 9800X3D to rule the roost for 2025, and the 7800X3D to be the best value going for the next couple years.

 

[mechtech]

60% more power for 13% more performance?!?

nah.........

 

[RaphaelOne]

This is only relevant to the A620, right?

Every other model has PBO where you can set your TDP to whatever you want, and MSI has usually provided various 45W/65W/95W eco modes across the last few generations of B-series and X-series boards.


That's a 3-week old video without the 11% improvement to gaming that the Windows patches have provided.

AFAIK, the scheduler patches that Microsoft have applied to W11 invalidate launch day reviews entirely if they haven't been updated. You can definitely blame AMD for not timing the launch correctly if these patches have been in the works for a while, but you can also blame Microsoft for failing to get branch-prediction code right for YEARS. The gains to Zen4 are almost as significant and prove that all the work that was put towards Intel for Alder Lake's launch was omitted for AMD. Call it bias, call it favouritism, call it foul-play - I don't care. What matters is that AMD CPUs have been artificially held back by Microsoft for an entire product generation.

Now let me remind You, years ago Intel paid Microsoft a bribe so that Windows would silently skip the (then modern) MMX instructions in AMD processors. Later Intel paid Microsoft bribes to skip AMD's Opteron 64 server offering (which kicked Xone's asses back then). (...) In 2016 after the AM4 platform launch, AMD sent Microsoft a scheduler code for the ZEN architecture based on chiplets almost a year before the first Ryzen1000 was released. Even when the ZEN2 architecture (Ryzen3000) was released, Microsoft failed to properly optimize the Windows scheduler for the ZEN1 architecture (Ryzen1000). After the first Ryzen Epyc and Threadripper processors were released, Lisa Su blamed Microsoft for the poor performance of the Windows scheduler, even though AMD had been providing scheduler code for the chiplet architecture for a long time. Now again, ZEN5 launch and we find out that the current Windows 11 is not able to fully efficiently manage ZEN3, ZEN4 and ZEN5 processors. Do you think this is a coincidence? In the Divine Universe there are no coincidences, just look at history. All the Microsoft bugs and incompetences that regularly hit AMD hardware were funded by Intel.

 

[Chrispy_]

Now let me remind You, years ago Intel paid Microsoft a bribe so that Windows would silently skip the (then modern) MMX instructions in AMD processors. Later Intel paid Microsoft bribes to skip AMD's Opteron 64 server offering (which kicked Xone's asses back then). (...) In 2016 after the AM4 platform launch, AMD sent Microsoft a scheduler code for the ZEN architecture based on chiplets almost a year before the first Ryzen1000 was released. Even when the ZEN2 architecture (Ryzen3000) was released, Microsoft failed to properly optimize the Windows scheduler for the ZEN1 architecture (Ryzen1000). After the first Ryzen Epyc and Threadripper processors were released, Lisa Su blamed Microsoft for the poor performance of the Windows scheduler, even though AMD had been providing scheduler code for the chiplet architecture for a long time. Now again, ZEN5 launch and we find out that the current Windows 11 is not able to fully efficiently manage ZEN3, ZEN4 and ZEN5 processors. Do you think this is a coincidence? In the Divine Universe there are no coincidences, just look at history. All the Microsoft bugs and incompetences that regularly hit AMD hardware were funded by Intel.

Call it bias, call it favouritism, call it foul-play - I don't care.
i.e. I know exactly what it is.
Right now, intel is between a rock and hard place, but they've been on the back foot since 10nm problems. If you don't think they're playing dirty then you've been hiding under a rock for the last 20 years.

 

[Neo_Morpheus]

Now let me remind You, years ago Intel paid Microsoft a bribe so that Windows would silently skip the (then modern) MMX instructions in AMD processors. Later Intel paid Microsoft bribes to skip AMD's Opteron 64 server offering (which kicked Xone's asses back then). (...) In 2016 after the AM4 platform launch, AMD sent Microsoft a scheduler code for the ZEN architecture based on chiplets almost a year before the first Ryzen1000 was released. Even when the ZEN2 architecture (Ryzen3000) was released, Microsoft failed to properly optimize the Windows scheduler for the ZEN1 architecture (Ryzen1000). After the first Ryzen Epyc and Threadripper processors were released, Lisa Su blamed Microsoft for the poor performance of the Windows scheduler, even though AMD had been providing scheduler code for the chiplet architecture for a long time. Now again, ZEN5 launch and we find out that the current Windows 11 is not able to fully efficiently manage ZEN3, ZEN4 and ZEN5 processors. Do you think this is a coincidence? In the Divine Universe there are no coincidences, just look at history. All the Microsoft bugs and incompetences that regularly hit AMD hardware were funded by Intel.

You forgot MS delaying the release of Win XP 64 bit, so intel would have more time to release their first AMD64-capable CPU to compete with the already released AMD Athlon 64.

As I said before, with friends like MS, AMD doesnt need enemies.

 

[wolf]

Funny so AMD releases their new line, all the reviewers review the CPUs and THEN a couple weeks later:
- Windows update with 10% uplift
- BIOS update with 10% uplift

Meanwhile most reviews won't change. Kinda feels bad.

Things like this is why it's imperative that AMD get their Sh*t together for launches. If the pricing is off, or there are bugs, issues etc, it significantly dampens the launch of what are more often than not really good products (there are multiple examples of this, the 7900XT springs to mind immediately), but by the time it's fixed/price corrected all the reviews are out based on day 1 price and performance, and most consumers won't revisit that, and the damage is done.

You'd hope someone there would have noticed this by now and would be working to make their launches land more effectively.

 

[A Computer Guy]

Things like this is why it's imperative that AMD get their Sh*t together for launches. If the pricing is off, or there are bugs, issues etc, it significantly dampens the launch of what are more often than not really good products (there are multiple examples of this, the 7900XT springs to mind immediately), but by the time it's fixed/price corrected all the reviews are out based on day 1 price and performance, and most consumers won't revisit that, and the damage is done.

You'd hope someone there would have noticed this by now and would be working to make their launches land more effectively.

I recently discovered Framechasers and he says 9950x even with stock IHS it's a beast when tuned hitting very close to delided and tuned 7950x3d in terms of gaming performance and claims the core to core latency isn't the issue but the fact that AMD mixes good and crap CCD's on the same chip. It will be interesting to see his workstation test results and how they differ to other testers but I think will be somewhat incomparable as HU and GN test the CPU basically out of the box with some exceptions.