MSI Shares Fascinating Insights Into "Comet Lake" Binning

[KarymidoN]

I live in one of the cheapest areas for power; TVA is a wonderful socialist organization.

I pay $0.09531 per kilowatt hour.

What do you pay in Brazil?

It depends on the region, my region is a little bit above the Country average. i pay exactly R$ 0.68 per kWh (in Brazilian Money). in the actual currency that would be $ 0.12 (in USD), however the dollar is on all time high right now (thats why it looks cheaper in USD), in the regular currency of the dollar 4 BRL = 1 USD. that would be 0.17 USD/kWh.
Thats bad cause the Brazilian minimum wage is BRL 1040. quick conversin 4 = 1. Brazilian minimum wage is USD 260, per month. yeah brazil sucks.

 

[EarthDog]

you're assuming by your use, your price/kWh. but you're not seeing phone bill, grocery, medical bill, gas, etc. again i can afford that, but i can't increase my already high electricity bill, if you can, good for you, energy is affordable where you live, not where i live tho.

I see all the bills too. All I am saying is the difference is quite meager between the two. Why the hell anyone in this situation would consider a $300-500 processor when they can't afford a difference of $3 /month on power in the first place? If you can't afford $3 /month for electricity, you surely can't afford a couple/few hundred dollar processor either.

So, again, for most people, the difference of $1.60-$3 /month isn't the biggest hurdle to clear with these CPUs. Power use is a lot more, we certainly get that... however cooling it is, by far, the biggest challenge. Cost differences in running them is moot.

EDIT: Also, your CPU gets walked in most activities by the 10c/20t CPU. So for that 100W difference, it is getting a lot more work done too... surely if using a PC = $ and productivity, the faster CPU will easily cover its slight monthly increase with more productivity.

 

[MKRonin]

Based on what I was told by someone I know that works for one of the motherboard makers, this is based on QS samples and it differs for MP parts.
It's obviously not completely wrong, but should be taken with a pinch of salt when it comes to the binning and the performance you can expect to get from your CPU if you buy one of these.

I'm assuming "MP" stands for "Master Production," correct?

 

[TheLostSwede]

I'm assuming "MP" stands for "Master Production," correct?

Mass production, we're not talking music here...

 

[MKRonin]

Mass production, we're not talking music here...

Just a guess based on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_production_schedule

 

[Master Tom]

Guys..... stop.
Currently both of you can be correct.
Why?

Because we don't know how the binning is done in Comet lake - S yet.
Using I9 10900K as an example, its an 10 core chip. As die size get larger, chance of defect become greater. However, if past history remain true, usually Intel doesn't use chip with disabled core for their top end product. Thus, 10900K should be a 10 core die (at least what I guessed), with no disabled core.
As for the I5 and I7 K part, there are two different scenario.
If Intel want best performance out of these I5 K/ I7 K part, usually they should use chip with all core activated for K chip.

Comet Lake cpus are build from 2 different chips. One with 10 core and one with 6 cores.