Mushkin Support Thread

[Greg0101]

o really? linked? idk if my sticks can do that...im using 4 sticks and my FSB is insane. (4.1Ghz on a 9.5 multi atm) so what do you suggest i do? set trfc to 60 and link the ram? edit o and removing the sink reveiled they were micron not mushkin sorry iv been up since 6 yesterday

Running Linked Memory Mode, with SYNC for speed, results in 862Mhz at your current fsb on the ram.
5-4-4-12 should be possible at this speed.
SYNC not only performs best, but is found to be most stable too.

Setting 60 for tRFC would be a good spot, since tRFC barely effects performance, >20 less is normally required to see any gains via memory benchmarks.

Do you know the model # of your ram, if the micron ones, they could do even tighter timings like 4-4-4-12 / 4-3-3-10 at 862Mhz.

 

[Solaris17]

Running Linked Memory Mode, with SYNC for speed, results in 862Mhz at your current fsb on the ram.
5-4-4-12 should be possible at this speed.
SYNC not only performs best, but is found to be most stable too.

Setting 60 for tRFC would be a good spot, since tRFC barely effects performance, >20 less is normally required to see any gains via memory benchmarks.

Do you know the model # of your ram, if the micron ones, they could do even tighter timings like 4-4-4-12 / 4-3-3-10 at 862Mhz.

hmm their not out of the system but ill check into the mdel number for ya..as for the changes i made them...as for TRFC i had it but it goes upto like 30 not 60 it wont let me go higher..however i bumped my FSB to 1800 dropped my multi down to 9 linked and synced the ram at 1:1 gives my 900mhz at 2.0v (planning on going higher) at stock timings. i might try to go higher but my rig doesnt like high fsb at a 9.5 multi but if i leave it at 9 it will freak out around 1900 i just dont have the voltage options to keep her stable so unless my board maraculously does it ill have to start getting performance from timings as i wount be able to oc the ram using FSB unless i unlink it which iv already tried and doesnt want to work.

 

[Flyordie]

Ok, this is a serious question-
Whats up with this...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146023 <-- 1GB DDR-500 for $39.99+$5.00 Shipping
THEN you got this-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146034 <-- 2x1GB DDR-500 for $149.99 + $5.00 Shipping

 

[Solaris17]

Ok, this is a serious question-
Whats up with this...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146023 <-- 1GB DDR-500 for $39.99+$5.00 Shipping
THEN you got this-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146034 <-- 2x1GB DDR-500 for $149.99 + $5.00 Shipping

wtf? the single 1GB kit has better timings to

 

[Greg0101]

hmm their not out of the system but ill check into the mdel number for ya..as for the changes i made them...as for TRFC i had it but it goes upto like 30 not 60 it wont let me go higher..however i bumped my FSB to 1800 dropped my multi down to 9 linked and synced the ram at 1:1 gives my 900mhz at 2.0v (planning on going higher) at stock timings. i might try to go higher but my rig doesnt like high fsb at a 9.5 multi but if i leave it at 9 it will freak out around 1900 i just dont have the voltage options to keep her stable so unless my board maraculously does it ill have to start getting performance from timings as i wount be able to oc the ram using FSB unless i unlink it which iv already tried and doesnt want to work.

tRC : try 31
Since no tRFC able to manually adjusted, you may not be able to get >950Mhz while tRFC is set to the SPD of 42

But since linked sync performs best normally, I'd stick with where you can keep your cpu overclock since that will provide bigger gains in games then , a few more mhz on the fsb or ram.

 

[Greg0101]

Ok, this is a serious question-
Whats up with this...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146023 <-- 1GB DDR-500 for $39.99+$5.00 Shipping
THEN you got this-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146034 <-- 2x1GB DDR-500 for $149.99 + $5.00 Shipping

Not sure, prob just in the process of updating pricing, where the 1GB sticks has already been updated and the 2x1GB hasn't yet.
Seems like a good deal to grab 2 of the 1GB sticks.
The timings are wrong though, 3-3-2-8 with the model #

 

[Flyordie]

Well, its been like that for almost 6 months. ;-)
Old prices 6 months ago tho-
$49.99 Free Shipping on the 1x1 GB
$149.99 + $4.99 Shipping on the 2x1GB.
It was the reason I went with OCZ for my RAM pick.. had them sticks been $99.99 or less I would have gotten them. Although I am enjoying my 2-3-2-8 1T Timings @ DDR-440 with the OCZ.

 

[Greg0101]

Not sure why the price hasn't been changed, I'll ask it get fixed.
Nice overclock, I had a pair of hp 3200 2-3-2-6 1T from mushkin , did 460Mhz 2-3-2-10 (I always used 10, didn't find a reason for 8, 10 performs similar or better sometimes)
Used 3.0v to get there though, very nice kit.
Did 520 3-3-2-8 2T max though.

 

[Flyordie]

Not sure why the price hasn't been changed, I'll ask it get fixed.
Nice overclock, I had a pair of hp 3200 2-3-2-6 1T from mushkin , did 460Mhz 2-3-2-10 (I always used 10, didn't find a reason for 8, 10 performs similar or better sometimes)
Used 3.0v to get there though, very nice kit.
Did 520 3-3-2-8 2T max though.

Ah, mine does all this on 2.5V ;-)
So I highly expect it to do LOADS better at higher voltages.
This is what I got...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227210
cept I managed to snag it for $25 shipped.... BNIB sorta.

If the price ever falls to where the OCZ XTC RAM sits ($75-80) I will definantly get the Mushkin DDR-500 2x1GB... its nice to try diff brands every once in a while... although.. if it doesn't at least keep to specs... then there would be an issue.

 

[Greg0101]

This was 2 years ago now too, things have changed over time.
I'm looking into core i7 kits now, so many to choose from.

 

[Flyordie]

Im holding out for AM3 and the SSE5 Phenoms.
I will then consider upgrading from my current rig.

 

[DMF]

That 1 lower tRD can cause the no post your getting, I do the same to get 1 lower tRD with my rampage extreme at 490FSB.

Auto might actually work better, since certain speeds are only available using certain straps.

Auto gives me a "833" option, which I gather is from the 333 strap. 400 strap says "832".

All 1:1 attempts were made with tRD on Auto. At 400 1:1 (Auto uses 13) it is stable at tRD=10 (haven't tried 9). So I doubt the difference is default tRD.

I'm starting to get the impression that the limitation is not the memory but the MCH. I'll try feeding it more volts and see what happens.

 

[DMF]

996587 kit (same one we've been discussing).

Spec says 5-4-4-12. CPU-Z tells me JEDEC #1 is 4-4-4-12. Should I try running CAS=4? Seems like I tried this once and got nowhere.

 

[Greg0101]

cas 4, its worth a try, use 2.0-2.1v on the ram, with 833Mhz .

 

[rtwjunkie]

Hi. Ok one more try to find a good board for the XP 8000 Redline DDR-2 2x2Gb sticks. Will the ASUS P5Q deluxe support them? It seems like it would since it supports DDR-@ 1066. thanks in advance!

 

[Greg0101]

Hi. Ok one more try to find a good board for the XP 8000 Redline DDR-2 2x2Gb sticks. Will the ASUS P5Q deluxe support them? It seems like it would since it supports DDR-@ 1066. thanks in advance!

Should work great, others are using the ram with the p5q deluxe.
See , http://forums.mushkin.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7567
Not 100% upto date , but does have many on the front page.

Gives a good idea of what bios' have worked for others.

 

[DMF]

cas 4, its worth a try, use 2.0-2.1v on the ram, with 833Mhz .

Nope. Even with tRFC = 65, tRD = 12, and 2.1V (probably 2.18V actual) I couldn't get it stable (MemTest) at 800 set to 4-4-4-12.

At 4-4-3-12 it wasn't stable even at 746.

Now I'm running at 5-4-4-12, tRD = 9 at 5-4-4-12 @ 1.82V at DDR-800.

 

[rtwjunkie]

Should work great, others are using the ram with the p5q deluxe.
See , http://forums.mushkin.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7567
Not 100% upto date , but does have many on the front page.

Gives a good idea of what bios' have worked for others.

Allright, thanks!

 

[EnergyFX]

I have a kit of 996587 (2x2GB) that is only reporting 1GB per chip.

MB is an ASUS Striker Extreme. With both sticks in I only get Vista and BIOS reporting 2GB total. With either single stick in Vista and BIOS only report 1GB.

What gives?

 

[Greg0101]

I have a kit of 996587 (2x2GB) that is only reporting 1GB per chip.

MB is an ASUS Striker Extreme. With both sticks in I only get Vista and BIOS reporting 2GB total. With either single stick in Vista and BIOS only report 1GB.

What gives?

Sounds like you got a mis-programmed kit.
I would return to place of purchase for a direct exchange.
or if in north america , setup an rma by creating an account
http://www.mushkin.com/passport/
Then setting up an rma here https://www.mushkin.com/doc/support/request/

Let me know which way you choose, I can help speed up the rma process when direct with us.

 

[Solaris17]

Hey i bought 2 4GB kits of the mushkin HP2-6400 sticks and the other day i started getting horrible BSOD's when trying to install vista.....so i knew what it was vista x64 doesnt like installing with 8GB of ram...w/e so i pull out all my ram and put one in...it still BSODS...i put in onother stick...it works fine.....wondering WTF? i tried with all 4 of my sticks in the same spot and the same stick failed and resaulted in BSOD's....now the problem....i can probably look at my newegg history and tell you when it was bought..HOWEVER i threw away 1 pack....so now i only have 1 package instead of 2 and im not sure if the stick that is bad belongs to that pack or the one i threw out.....now the second problem with this situation....is since i know 1 stick is bad not only do i not know if it goes with the packaing i have or the packaging i threw out but i also do not know what other stick out of my 4 went with the bad stick.....all i know is that they have the same batch code and creation week is their anything i can do?

 

[Greg0101]

HOWEVER i threw away 1 pack....so now i only have 1 package instead of 2 and im not sure if the stick that is bad belongs to that pack or the one i threw out.....

Only sticker on the ram itself is required for warranty, you can use the other package if you like.

now the second problem with this situation....is since i know 1 stick is bad not only do i not know if it goes with the packaing i have or the packaging i threw out but i also do not know what other stick out of my 4 went with the bad stick.....all i know is that they have the same batch code and creation week is their anything i can do?

Setup an rma, since 1 stick would always go bad, just pair it up, since we normally replace dual channel kits as a pair.

Create an account here, http://www.mushkin.com/passport/
Then once logged in, https://www.mushkin.com/doc/support/request/

 

[DMF]

Say, what's the normal turnaround for Mail In Rebate. It's been almost 6 weeks. Mushkin registration site confirmed some time ago that it had been received.

 

[allen337]

Back again with a dead 996599 stick of mushkin these are 2x2 gig sticks 8500 5-5-5-15 2.0-2.1v. Cant seem to get in touch with anyone at mushkin on the phone all mailboxes are full and no way of getting a service rep or support personel on the horn they want you to leave a message? I have had about enough to give them a message of my own.

 

[johnspack]

I'm surprised by that, have you tried posting in the Mushkin forum, I'm sure someone would help right away.