Naturally Aspired PC WaterCooling Club

SaiZo · Dec 9, 2011

I have a question about watercooling: Is there any "failsafe" devices that can be added, say if the pump stops to function it cuts the power for the system instantly (so it can get overheated)? I have been thinking of gettin watercooling for my system for some time now (fans are a bit too loud), but I'm a bit paranoid...as usual.

Cold Storm · Dec 9, 2011

seeing a pump blow up to where it's leaking water is a strange one in deed... Now, if it stops and there is no water flowing, you'll know from it doing a bsod due to heat and that should make you want to check your loop out.

Most all pumps now a day are lasting longer then you think and lasting years to come.. It's really worth the work if you study and know what your doing from talking and working it out.. Now, what you need to do? leak test it first then allow the system to go in.. That's the most "fail safe" that it can go.. Also adding a temp thermometer will allow you to have a digital read out on what your water loop is temped at.. if it's higher then it should be, you can check it out... clean the fans, and go at it..

That's my thoughts and talks when a friend is thinking of water..

N-Gen · Dec 9, 2011

Considering water pumps in loops are just modified aquarium pumps you should expect them to be able to take a heavy beating without any problems. I've seen aquarium pumps run for well over 10 years without any problems, so I think the chance of a pump failing just like that would be very unlucky, and as Cold said, the machine would just shut itself off to prevent it from burning up.

sneekypeet · Dec 9, 2011

Isn't that what the temp sensing in the chips and the motherboard are for? ( CPU throttling on the chip and the setting in bios to shut the rig down due to temps)

N-Gen · Dec 10, 2011

Also GPU throttling. I believe too high temps on a VGA card would BSOD as well, right?

sneekypeet · Dec 10, 2011

It will crash the driver, keeping the cards at 2D speeds I believe.

the54thvoid · Dec 10, 2011

If the loop is on PWM cooling then you'd notice the noise stepping up too. As the guys have said, a cpu that gets too hot throttles or shuts down - gpu's are the same. I think it's only over volting that can seriously burn things out. Chips are designed with thermal limits and cut offs as design standards.

As for leaks, as Cold said, you leak test it first with mobo off and use either a psu hotwire method (paperclip or retail accessory) or a standalone molex power adapter.

Water cooling is actually very easy and tremendous fun if you have basic technical skills. Just do the research on fans, fins and fluids.

N-Gen · Dec 10, 2011

sneekypeet said:
It will crash the driver, keeping the cards at 2D speeds I believe.

The driver crashed for me when my MemIO temps on GPU #1 hit 99 and roughly when the core on either GPU hit 90, but wouldn't the GPU run essentially at higher temps in idle than a CPU on water? Would take a few extra degrees till the CPU BSODs due to its own temp.

(FIH) The Don · Dec 10, 2011

finally got my block mounted on my 5870, its just been laying in my drawer for like 4 months lol

but would you believe i threw away the mounting screws?
yeah i did :banghead:

but found small screws in my pc box thingie, its mounted now, just gotta cut one of the tubes in the rig and connect the thing, and yeah.....its gonna take some time lol, im wasted

Grings · Dec 10, 2011

sneekypeet said:
Isn't that what the temp sensing in the chips and the motherboard are for? ( CPU throttling on the chip and the setting in bios to shut the rig down due to temps)

I plug my pumps rpm sensor (or whatever that pin on a 3 pin fan connectors called) into one of my motherboard fan headers so i can monitor it from my mobo software (or speedfan etc)

I haven't checked on my current motherboard, but on my previous one there was an option to sound an alarm or shut down, should a "fan" fail.

Chicken Patty · Dec 10, 2011

(FIH) The Don said:
finally got my block mounted on my 5870, its just been laying in my drawer for like 4 months lol

but would you believe i threw away the mounting screws?
yeah i did

but found small screws in my pc box thingie, its mounted now, just gotta cut one of the tubes in the rig and connect the thing, and yeah.....its gonna take some time lol, im wasted

Speaking of having stuff laying around for months, I just installed my CPU block on my AMD rig. I've had that block for over a year without using it. :laugh:

(FIH) The Don · Dec 11, 2011

:shadedshu

see lol :laugh:

at least i got it mounted now, but i think my gpu is dying on my, have had small green artifacts for a month now, talked to sneeky, he said it could be vram thats failing,

funny thing is that when i game theres no problems

JrRacinFan · Dec 11, 2011

Grings said:
there was an option to sound an alarm or shut down, should a "fan" fail.

See, I don't have that option, I use Speedfan for it though.

Chicken Patty · Dec 11, 2011

(FIH) The Don said:
:shadedshu

see lol

at least i got it mounted now, but i think my gpu is dying on my, have had small green artifacts for a month now, talked to sneeky, he said it could be vram thats failing,

funny thing is that when i game theres no problems

So when do you get them? When not gaming, like just browsing around and stuff?

(FIH) The Don · Dec 11, 2011

exactly, and watching movies

Cold Storm · Dec 11, 2011

(FIH) The Don said:
exactly, and watching movies

Recheck the ram.. I had the same issues on video.. seen to be I set my multi of my ram down, and boom.. no more stuff.

Chicken Patty · Dec 11, 2011

(FIH) The Don said:
exactly, and watching movies

What CS stated could be, is system stable, does this one crunch?

Wile E · Dec 11, 2011

Drivers and codecs can cause artifacting issues too. Update both.

(FIH) The Don · Dec 12, 2011

Chicken Patty said:
What CS stated could be, is system stable, does this one crunch?

Cold Storm said:
Recheck the ram.. I had the same issues on video.. seen to be I set my multi of my ram down, and boom.. no more stuff.

vram or ram ram?

my ram is not oc'd, just running stock. and its started happening within the last month, and i had the system for like 5 or so.

Wile E said:
Drivers and codecs can cause artifacting issues too. Update both.

already tried that, no go

Cold Storm · Dec 12, 2011

I'm saying ram ram... play around.. just lower the multi... see if it works..

(FIH) The Don · Dec 12, 2011

coolio

gonna try it out later then

Chicken Patty · Dec 12, 2011

(FIH) The Don said:
coolio gonna try it out later then

So did you? Stop slacking like you did with that water block... :laugh:

(FIH) The Don · Dec 12, 2011

i lowered the speed on the memory, and on my cpu, but it didnt help

i cant seem to find the multiplier on my memory, but this is SB, not P55, x58

cant find shit in this bios lol, well nuff tech talk here, its for wc lol

Chicken Patty · Dec 12, 2011

It should definitely be in the BIOS dude...

N-Gen · Dec 14, 2011

Well my fan controller arrived last Saturday, been toying around on different times of the day (diff ambient temps and what not), and I can say I'm really happy with all my fans on their lowest settings. CPU temp seems to be roughly the same, maybe with a 1-2 degrees Celsius fluctuation in real world usage. I didn't stress test yet because I have been caught up with World of Warcraft Syndrome yet again.

System Name	Salvaged
Processor	AMD Phenom II X6, 1055T
Motherboard	MSI (cant remember model..)
Cooling	Antec Kühler + extra fans (Antec, Zalman, Coolermaster, Generic brand)
Memory	8Gb (2 x 4Gb)
Video Card(s)	ATI Radeon HD6870
Storage	Samsung 1TB, 320 Seagate, 250 Samsung
Display(s)	LG Electronics
Case	ANTEC Sonata III 500 (found/salvaged + modified)
Audio Device(s)	8Ch + Harman Kardon 2.1 (modified, electronics in JVC wood speakers)
Power Supply	It's made in Denmark, never seen a PSU made there..
Software	Win7 X64 Ultimate

System Name	Haro
Processor	AMD 1700x
Motherboard	AsRork x370 Taichi
Cooling	EK Custom Loop - CPU only
Memory	32gb G-Skill Trident Z
Video Card(s)	EVGA 1080 Superclock 2
Storage	Too Many
Display(s)	Viewsonic VX2450WM-LED 24" & LG 32 IPS
Case	Cooler Master Cosmos II
Power Supply	Cooler Master V1000
Mouse	SteelSeries Rival 500
Software	Win10 Pro
Benchmark Scores	i5 750 4.62ghz pi runs // Evga FTW p55

System Name	Pegasus
Processor	AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X @ 4GHz
Motherboard	ASUS ROG Zenith Extreme
Cooling	Custom 480mm EK Loop
Memory	4 x 8GB G.Skill TridentZ RGB 3000MHz @ 3000MHz
Video Card(s)	ASUS ROG Nvidia GTX 1080 Ti
Storage	Samsung 960 EVO M.2 500GB / Samsung 850 EVO 500GB / Samsung 840 EVO 250GB
Display(s)	2 x 25" Dell Ultrasharp U2515H / 1 x 15" ASUS MB169+
Case	Corsair 900D
Audio Device(s)	2 x Tannoy Reveal 502 / Beyerdynamic DT 990 PRO 250 Ohm / Behringer Xenyx X1204 USB / MXL 770
Power Supply	EVGA SuperNova G3 1000W
Mouse	Logitech G903 Lightspeed
Keyboard	HyperX Alloy FPS / Corsair K95 RGB / Anne Pro 2 / 2 x Elgato Stream Deck
Software	Windows 10 Professional 64-Bit

System Name	EVA-01
Processor	Intel i7 13700K
Motherboard	Asus ROG Maximus Z690 HERO EVA Edition
Cooling	ASUS ROG Ryujin III 360 with Noctua Industrial Fans
Memory	PAtriot Viper Elite RGB 96GB @ 6000MHz.
Video Card(s)	Asus ROG Strix GeForce RTX 3090 24GB OC EVA Edition
Storage	Addlink S95 M.2 PCIe GEN 4x4 2TB
Display(s)	Asus ROG SWIFT OLED PG42UQ
Case	Thermaltake Core P3 TG
Audio Device(s)	Realtek on board > Sony Receiver > Cerwin Vegas
Power Supply	be quiet DARK POWER PRO 12 1500W
Mouse	ROG STRIX Impact Electro Punk
Keyboard	ROG STRIX Scope TKL Electro Punk
Software	Windows 11

System Name	Pegasus
Processor	AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X @ 4GHz
Motherboard	ASUS ROG Zenith Extreme
Cooling	Custom 480mm EK Loop
Memory	4 x 8GB G.Skill TridentZ RGB 3000MHz @ 3000MHz
Video Card(s)	ASUS ROG Nvidia GTX 1080 Ti
Storage	Samsung 960 EVO M.2 500GB / Samsung 850 EVO 500GB / Samsung 840 EVO 250GB
Display(s)	2 x 25" Dell Ultrasharp U2515H / 1 x 15" ASUS MB169+
Case	Corsair 900D
Audio Device(s)	2 x Tannoy Reveal 502 / Beyerdynamic DT 990 PRO 250 Ohm / Behringer Xenyx X1204 USB / MXL 770
Power Supply	EVGA SuperNova G3 1000W
Mouse	Logitech G903 Lightspeed
Keyboard	HyperX Alloy FPS / Corsair K95 RGB / Anne Pro 2 / 2 x Elgato Stream Deck
Software	Windows 10 Professional 64-Bit

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Processor	Ryzen 7800X3D
Motherboard	MSI MAG Mortar B650 (wifi)
Cooling	be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4
Memory	32GB Kingston Fury
Video Card(s)	Gainward RTX4070ti
Storage	Seagate FireCuda 530 M.2 1TB / Samsumg 960 Pro M.2 512Gb
Display(s)	LG 32" 165Hz 1440p GSYNC
Case	Asus Prime AP201
Audio Device(s)	On Board
Power Supply	be quiet! Pure POwer M12 850w Gold (ATX3.0)
Software	W10

System Name	CosmosII
Processor	Ryzen 7700
Motherboard	Gigabyte b650 gaming x ax v2
Cooling	BeQuiet Pure Rock v2
Memory	Corsair Vengeance RGB DDR5-6000 2x16GB
Video Card(s)	Inno3d RTX 4070 Ti Super
Storage	1tb Corsair MP600 Pro XT
Display(s)	34" Ultrawide
Case	Cosmos II
Audio Device(s)	stock onboard thing
Power Supply	RM850E
Software	½½

Processor	R7 5800x3D
Motherboard	MSI x570 Tomahawk
Cooling	XSPC Raystorm Edge,EK QS P420M,EK D5pwm Revo Res
Memory	32gb Corsair Vengeance RT 3600 cl16
Video Card(s)	Zotac 3070ti Amp Extreme
Storage	Samsung 980pro 1tb x2
Display(s)	MSI MPG321QRF QD
Case	Corsair 7000D
Power Supply	EVGA 1000 P2
Mouse	G900
Keyboard	Corsair k60 RGB PRO
Software	Win 11

Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Motherboard	ASUS ROG Crosshair X670E Hero
Cooling	ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 360 A-RGB // X12 Phanteks D30-120 D-RGB Fans
Memory	G.SKILL Trident Z5 Neo RGB Series (AMD Expo) DDR5 RAM 32GB (2x16GB) 6000MT/s CL30
Video Card(s)	ZOTAC Gaming GeForce RTX 4090 AMP Extreme AIRO
Storage	Samsung Pro 980 2TB NVMe (OS and Games) // WD Black 10TB HDD (Storage)
Display(s)	SAMSUNG 34-Inch Ultrawide 75Hz (Desk Games) // SAMSUNG 49-Inch Ultrawide 144Hz (Sim Racing Rig)
Case	Phanteks NV7
Power Supply	Seasonic Vertex GX-1200, 1200W 80+ Gold, ATX 3.0
Software	Windows 11 Pro

System Name	Snow White
Processor	Ryzen 7900x3d
Motherboard	AsRock B650E Steel Legend
Cooling	Custom Water 1x420
Memory	32GB T-Force Deltas
Video Card(s)	PowerColor 7900 XTX Liquid Devil
Storage	20+ TB
Display(s)	Sammy 49" 5k Ultrawide
Case	Tt CTE 600 Snow Edition
Audio Device(s)	Onboard
Power Supply	EVGA 1200W P2
Mouse	Corsair M65 RGB Elite White
Keyboard	Corsair K65 Mini
Software	Windows 10
Benchmark Scores	Avermedia Live HD2

System Name	The ClusterF**k
Processor	980X @ 4Ghz
Motherboard	Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD5 BIOS F12
Cooling	MCR-320, DDC-1 pump w/Bitspower res top (1/2" fittings), Koolance CPU-360
Memory	3x2GB Mushkin Redlines 1600Mhz 6-8-6-24 1T
Video Card(s)	Evga GTX 580
Storage	Corsair Neutron GTX 240GB, 2xSeagate 320GB RAID0; 2xSeagate 3TB; 2xSamsung 2TB; Samsung 1.5TB
Display(s)	HP LP2475w 24" 1920x1200 IPS
Case	Technofront Bench Station
Audio Device(s)	Auzentech X-Fi Forte into Onkyo SR606 and Polk TSi200's + RM6750
Power Supply	ENERMAX Galaxy EVO EGX1250EWT 1250W
Software	Win7 Ultimate N x64, OSX 10.8.4