Need a suggestion about RTX2060S vs. RTX3060

[Tatty_Two]

Out of curiosity, do you pay taxes or that price includes them ? Thanks.

We pay a lot of tax, but that price includes everything (it was a "today" special) apart from shipping which happened to be free on that occasion.

 

[Lei]

The thing about VRAM. The GPU and its shaders are too slow to make use of so much VRAM. You get the bottleneck in the shaders long before the VRAM limit is reached.

How do you see RTX 3080 with 10 GB and RTX 3060 with 12 GB? Doesn't make sense, right?

Exactly, you hit the nail on it.

you choose 3060 over 2060s because of more cuda cores, not for more vram*
you choose 3060ti over 3060 because of 35% more cuda cores, despite having 50%=4gb less vram.
* ok, I know they're different gen and different cuda cores, yet 3060 is faster than 2060s / 4080 has less cores than 3080ti....

u get intel A770 because it's faster, not for its 16gb vram

I wish 3060 had less vram so @nicepen1 and many others would buy an AMD

How do you see RTX 3080 with 10 GB and RTX 3060 with 12 GB? Doesn't make sense, right?

The only way it makes sense is that nvidia is dangling a carrot in front of rabbit customers, yet the carrot contains no Vitamin A

 

[hckngrtfakt]

With all that's been said here which is pretty much on point, you will not see any graphical difference with either of these GPU's.
(I have the 2080 ultra) specifically because the CPU is the bottleneck.
But if your intent is to future-proof I'd say go for the 30 series if your PSU allows.

I know people say 750w is enough but in reality is probably not depending on what you run on it.

 

[Lei]

 

[AusWolf]

How did it not cross my mind? The whole AMD 66xx series is much better value than any of Nvidia's overpriced, overhyped crap (unless one really can't live without DLSS for some reason).

 

[nicepen1]

In another forums ppl told me I should change my motherboard and PSU as a strongly suggestion. My psu is 9 years old. it is 750W.
Even if I have a bugdet, CPU changes will be pretty good.
What doyou think guys? I don't have more money nowadays.

 

[80-watt Hamster]

In another forums ppl told me I should change my motherboard and PSU as a strongly suggestion. My psu is 9 years old. it is 750W.
Even if I have a bugdet, CPU changes will be pretty good.
What doyou think guys? I don't have more money nowadays.

Money spent on graphics usually has the most impact. If you have to choose graphics or CPU, go graphics. What are you coming from? The 4770 might hold you back a little bit in certain cases, but not enough to fuss about. I wouldn't worry about the PSU, either. It's probably been under-stressed its entire life, and should be able to soldier on until you upgrade the rest of the system. Definitely get a new PS at that point, though.

 

[Frick]

In another forums ppl told me I should change my motherboard and PSU as a strongly suggestion. My psu is 9 years old. it is 750W.
Even if I have a bugdet, CPU changes will be pretty good.
What doyou think guys? I don't have more money nowadays.

I would really look into buying a new PSU if you want to buy a spanking new GPU. That PSU was already dated when it came out, and modern GPU's behave very differently from how they did back then. It might not kill anything, but yes, I'd try to get a new PSU. They don't have to be massive or terribly expensive. Decent modern 500W units start at around €60 where I live.

 

[Hofnaerrchen]

The 256 vs 192 bit is irrelevant. You should compare actual bandwidth.
The 2060S has 448 GB/s VRAM, the 3060 has 360 GB/s VRAM.

The 3060 is faster overall, despite the bandwidth deficit.
In the same tier you can compare the AMD RX 6600 or 6600XT.

AMD might not be an option if he needs nVIDIA features.

 

[Lei]

@nicepen1
Changing your cpu requires changing ram and motherboard.
If you're planning to upgrade and then keep it for 7~10 years, I would say don't change now. Because ddr5 is new tech and expensive, and if you pick ddr4 you'll be stuck with ddr4 for all the coming years while ddr5 is around and would become a lot more affordable.

So you better invest your money on a better gpu. If upgrading your cpu means you'll end up picking 3060 and live with ddr4, that's not a good idea. So just eye on a better gpu and don't spend money on cpu/ram/mobo right now. You can get a cpu 2 years later with better pricing and adopt ddr5.

Whatever you do, please don't choose either 3060 or 2060 super. Either get a better nvidia card or pick Radeon. Changing Power Supply might be a good idea. But again if your spendings on cpu/ram/mobo/psu results in buying a slow graphics card.... First spend all your bucks on gpu and move from there.

And consider 2nd hand market. Not all options there are bad.
I agree with @80-watt Hamster

Edit: keep your power supply until it dies. It's adequate. No need to change it tbh

 

[Frick]

Edit: keep your power supply until it dies. It's adequate. No need to change it tbh

It's an ancient group regulated design that does not handle crossloads well (meaning lots of 12V and little else) and all modern loads are 12V plus it won't handle the crazy boost systems modern GPUs has. I would not trust it with a modern GPU.

 

[Lei]

It's an ancient group regulated design that does not handle crossloads well (meaning lots of 12V and little else) and all modern loads are 12V plus it won't handle the crazy boost systems modern GPUs has. I would not trust it with a modern GPU.

Dude, he's going for a 3060, you're talking about melting 12v 4090 cables?
don't make him spend money on anything else, until it proves necessary. Sure upgrade everything if budget is there. by why bother now?

His PSU has 12v rail:
GX Bronze 650 | Cooler Master

 

[kozad]

If you're not gonna upgrade the rest of the system anytime soon I'd suggest you go for a 3060 or a RX 6600 (assuming price is the driving factor, the 6600 is around $200), and don't buy Arc because it'll stumble around like a drunk in games on that system without ReBAR support.

 

[Frick]

Dude, he's going for a 3060, you're talking about melting 12v 4090 cables?
don't make him spend money on anything else, until it proves necessary. Sure upgrade everything if budget is there. by why bother now?

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His PSU has 12v rail:
GX Bronze 650 | Cooler Master

It's not the amps, it's the voltage stability. But whatever. Buy expensive hardware and use a decades old design from a time where there were no such things as "boost" to drive it. vOv

 

[KLiKzg]

Hi All,

I am looking for buying a new Nvidia graphic card. I have a budget around RTX2060S and RTX3060 prices.
2060S has 8GB ram and 256bit
3060 has 12GB ram but 192bit

My motherboard is Asus Z87-A (a bit old)
CPU is Intel i7-4770 3.40GHz 4 Cores (a bit old)
My PSU is Cool Master Bronze GX 750W

Which one do you suggest me? By the way you can suggest me same tier another graphic card.



Thanks in Advance

Most of the other have already answered, but nobody asked you: what do you use GPU for?
Why? Well if you go to work every day, then racing bike is not suggested, but a city bike. As well the rough terrain all suspension bike with thick tires. Do you get the point?

If it is for crunching - like on WCG, then get 3060.
If it is for gaming & you need ray tracking, then get 3060.
If you have some price margin like ~25% less, then get 2060S.

As for the power, use some of the "wattage calculators" you can find on Google. Those would give more answers, then any of us!
Check also you PSU if it has 12-pins power for 3060. If only 8-pins is present, then get 2060S.
& DO NOT use cable linking to get 12-pins, for 24h use of GPU. Or you might have a burned computer.

Also, are you planning to get a newer CPU? If so, then 3060 is a better choice. But you need to see, what is the best CPU for your MBO.