New Asetek Liquid CPU Coolers Support PCs with 92 mm Fans

[bear jesus]

I still don't get it. Even mini ATX cases have front and back 120mm fans. These BOXX cases must suck. Hell, lian li has a mini-itx with a 140mm fan and a 120.

I meant it more as in they are products to suit different company's and OEM's needs and not really us, giving a 92mm one gives more options for smaller cases and if they don't want or need a smaller case then the multiple 120mm ones they offer would be the choice.

Remember asetek makes at least 2 120mm 1 92mm and 2 dual 92mm versions, the 120mm versions of these already exist and are most commonly seen re-branded as corsair H50 and H70's but asetek sells them to OEM's and other company's without the corsair branding so these releases are just bulking out their product line and giving more options.

 

[Kantastic]

 

[Hayder_Master]

one word : crappy

 

[bear jesus]

http://media.bestofmicro.com/P/K/256232/original/BOXX 3dboxx.jpg

I'm assuming that's the old version using the pump/block design like the H50, asetek makes a bunch of these things in all different shapes and size's but most of us will only see the re-branded corsair ones.

To be honest i would love to see how the dual versions do, it would be awesome if corsair could start selling one the thickness of the H70 as I'm sure it would do great with 4 quiet fans in push/pull.... would cost too much though

I guess i should stop being lazy and just shell out for a custom loop once i upgrade.

one word : crappy

i love how everyone is instantly complaining and saying it sucks just because it does not suit their needs when its not for us anyway, its for OEM's and system builders as it says in the article.

 

[Kantastic]

My point is, not all cases have room for a 120mm exhaust fan. The purpose of a cooler like this isn't to be put in gigantic cases like the 800D or HAF X, it's for generic OEM builds that want to keep a small form factor while providing decent cooling. Another market this cooler would be popular in is the Korean market. They value a compact and compressed rig over a monstrosity with 12 120mm fans.

 

[HillBeast]

I still don't get it. Even mini ATX cases have front and back 120mm fans. These BOXX cases must suck. Hell, lian li has a mini-itx with a 140mm fan and a 120.

Precisely. As we should all know: the bigger the fan, the less whiny it is. All the big and smart companies are moving to 120/140mm fans because they are so much quieter. If BOXX wants to live in the past then they can stay there. Just stop making Asetek have to work around you.

 

[bear jesus]

Precisely. As we should all know: the bigger the fan, the less whiny it is. All the big and smart companies are moving to 120/140mm fans because they are so much quieter. If BOXX wants to live in the past then they can stay there. Just stop making Asetek have to work around you.

Smaller cases and computers from OEM's are the past? i thought that was supposed to be the future as in making them smaller and smaller

 

[LAN_deRf_HA]

I don't think that picture quite illustrates your point. That case appears to have a 120mm rad on the front, with either 80 or 92mm fans on the back. And I don't think anyone will argue a mini-itx is large yet they figured out how to fit those fans in. Just seems that rather than bending over backwards and ordering custom water coolers they could just engineer a better case.... or produce less absurd products. I mean I can't imagine those cards being supplied sufficient airflow, especially if that rad's heat is being dumped into the case.

 

[bear jesus]

I don't think that picture quite illustrates your point. That case appears to have a 120mm rad on the front, with either 80 or 92mm fans on the back. And I don't think anyone will argue a mini-itx is large yet they figured out how to fit those fans in. Just seems that rather than bending over backwards and ordering custom water coolers they could just engineer a better case.... or produce less absurd products. I mean I can't imagine those cards being supplied sufficient airflow, especially if that rad's heat is being dumped into the case.

I agree on the airflow for the cards in that model, having 4 together would mean a couple intake fans on the front are basically a must but when the intake is just dumping all the cpu's heat right at them then its kind of a fail design.

 

[Luke]

I Saw one of these in a High end HP Workstation a few days ago (only difference I can see is that it had a HP logo on it)

Not sure if it was any good since the computer was DOA

 

[lism]

It should be possible to use a extender from 120mm to 92mm. It is still possible to use your fancy 120mm fan but with a airduct!

 

[mdm-adph]

Who has a 92mm fan hole on the back of their case? How are we supposed to mount this?

Ha! I have one -- I use a very small case that cost next to nothing. This would be perfect for it.

 

[HillBeast]

Smaller cases and computers from OEM's are the past? i thought that was supposed to be the future as in making them smaller and smaller

It's called the Eee PC. Does that have water cooling?

If people want a small computer then they can buy a small computer. Water cooling isn't needed in these tiny little 92mm cheapskate OEM cases because the CPU will always be a low end AMD Athlon X2 or a Pentium Dual Core.

I have actually ran Prime95 on a Celeron 420 with no heatsink on. It went for like 5 minutes before getting to 70C+. Computers don't get hot like people think, just the super high end ones, and why would you want a small case for that? It would be like putting a V8 in a VW Golf. Absolutely pointless. You have a powerful computer, so brag about it with a big case.

Also by V8, I don't mean a nice tidy and small efficient German one, I mean a massive 6.2L American one.

 

[bear jesus]

It's called the Eee PC. Does that have water cooling?

If people want a small computer then they can buy a small computer. Water cooling isn't needed in these tiny little 92mm cheapskate OEM cases because the CPU will always be a low end AMD Athlon X2 or a Pentium Dual Core.

I have actually ran Prime95 on a Celeron 420 with no heatsink on. It went for like 5 minutes before getting to 70C+. Computers don't get hot like people think, just the super high end ones, and why would you want a small case for that? It would be like putting a V8 in a VW Golf. Absolutely pointless. You have a powerful computer, so brag about it with a big case.

Also by V8, I don't mean a nice tidy and small efficient German one, I mean a massive 6.2L American one.

Some very good points, really most small oem computers and when i say small i mean tiny don't even have space for a single 80mm rad never mind anything to cool a high end cpu and thus why they use ultra low power cpu's.

It's just that having both 120mm and 92mm as options gives more choices to oem's, asetek also makes 80mm radiators as well, i don't know if they sell coolers that use it but surly you would agree multiple sizes of the same product is a good thing due to company's being able to create more varied products to suit more needs.

One thought that occurred to me is use in a htpc although many would not have room and i must admit i intend to put an asetek cooler in my htpc when i upgrade my gaming rigs cooler... the thing is that just means i will be putting my H50 into the htpc as it has a space for a 120mm fan

I'm not saying these things are great products or anything, I'm just trying to say they have their place in the world even if its a very small and different one to most other coolers

 

[HillBeast]

Some very good points, really most small oem computers and when i say small i mean tiny don't even have space for a single 80mm rad never mind anything to cool a high end cpu and thus why they use ultra low power cpu's.

It's just that having both 120mm and 92mm as options gives more choices to oem's, asetek also makes 80mm radiators as well, i don't know if they sell coolers that use it but surly you would agree multiple sizes of the same product is a good thing due to company's being able to create more varied products to suit more needs.

One thought that occurred to me is use in a htpc although many would not have room and i must admit i intend to put an asetek cooler in my htpc when i upgrade my gaming rigs cooler... the thing is that just means i will be putting my H50 into the htpc as it has a space for a 120mm fan

I'm not saying these things are great products or anything, I'm just trying to say they have their place in the world even if its a very small and different one to most other coolers

I agree in an HTPC you want something nice and quiet so water cooling is smart, but really HTPCs only have to decode video (that's the GPUs task these days), and sometimes encode TV. That's not a big workload and I doubt they would get super hot doing that. It's not like you're going to shove a 980X in an HTPC, you'll put in a smaller Athlon X2 or a Celeron or Core i3 or something. Water cooling is excessive for those tasks. Pop some passive cooling on there and just use the case fan is my idea.

 

[erocker]

I agree in an HTPC you want something nice and quiet so water cooling is smart, but really HTPCs only have to decode video (that's the GPUs task these days), and sometimes encode TV. That's not a big workload and I doubt they would get super hot doing that. It's not like you're going to shove a 980X in an HTPC, you'll put in a smaller Athlon X2 or a Celeron or Core i3 or something. Water cooling is excessive for those tasks. Pop some passive cooling on there and just use the case fan is my idea.

There's also a market for smaller yet powerful PC's. The target still seems a bit limited with most cases going with 120 mm rear exhausts, even HTPC chassis. This would of actually worked well with the NZXT Vulcan I just got rid of.

 

[bear jesus]

I agree in an HTPC you want something nice and quiet so water cooling is smart, but really HTPCs only have to decode video (that's the GPUs task these days), and sometimes encode TV. That's not a big workload and I doubt they would get super hot doing that. It's not like you're going to shove a 980X in an HTPC, you'll put in a smaller Athlon X2 or a Celeron or Core i3 or something. Water cooling is excessive for those tasks. Pop some passive cooling on there and just use the case fan is my idea.

I have been using an old athlon x2 in my htpc but once i got the satellite tuner card it proved to be a little under powered when it came to HD video, more so when it comes to recording it.

So i tried my old phenom 9850 at 2.8ghz and it was much better but was getting too hot with the stock hsf so i had to take it back out and due to the case I'm using there is very few suitable options for a better cooler thus why for now I'm leaving the athlon in there until i get a new cooler for my gaming rig then the htpc will get the H50 as its a perfect fit.

If it was not for my lazy ways the front of the case could easily be modded to take the dual 92mm model but I'm lazy and cheap so the htpc pretty much only gets old parts and next to no effort

 

[Wile E]

These are great for HTPC cases that don't fit large, quiet coolers. I don't use accelerated video playback, because a huge portion of my media is not DXVA compliant, so I would need a little more oomph than the entry level cpus, and therefore have more heat. These would work well in a case like that.

Then there is the rack mounted server market.

These have their place. Just because they have no place in an enthusiast setup, does not make them a pointless product. They wouldn't sell them if there was no market for them.