New Exemptions To The DMCA Allow Users To Hack And Repair Their Phones (And Their Tractors, too)

[GoldenX]

Which part would fall under capitalism? The initial act of government control in creating the DMCA would be a hack against it, unless this is a hint at the free market should prevent companies from existing that do this, but they couldn't do this if there were not anti-capitalist laws already in place.

You sure you want to start a political discussion?
Anyway, I meant a comment like "Apple knows what's best for the user, duuuh".

 

[lexluthermiester]

You sure you want to start a political discussion?

Please let's not. Against forum rules.

Anyway, I meant a comment like "Apple knows what's best for the user, duuuh".

Apple panders to human vanity, little if anything more.

 

[Easy Rhino]

Please let's not. Against forum rules.

Apple panders to human vanity, little if anything more.

Incorrect. As someone who develops software and admins servers I can tell you that Apple makes not only the best consumer hardware in the business but the best non-server OS as well. The fact that they make their consumer products easy to use and the eco system nice and tidy attracts people who want easy tech that looks nice and works smoothly.

 

[GoldenX]

Incorrect. As someone who develops software and admins servers I can tell you that Apple makes not only the best consumer hardware in the business but the best non-server OS as well. The fact that they make their consumer products easy to use and the eco system nice and tidy attracts people who want easy tech that looks nice and works smoothly.

See? There's always one.

 

[R0H1T]

Incorrect. As someone who develops software and admins servers I can tell you that Apple makes not only the best consumer hardware in the business but the best non-server OS as well. The fact that they make their consumer products easy to use and the eco system nice and tidy attracts people who want easy tech that looks nice and works smoothly.

I can give you half a dozen crippling_gate_flaws by apple this decade itself, which shouldn't have ever occurred considering the size of Apple & their emphasis on perfection.

I guess but it's not like the competition is that great anyway. Having said that win7 is still popular & XP was the most popular OS, by an enormous margin, at some point in time.

 

[Patriot]

Incorrect. As someone who develops software and admins servers I can tell you that Apple makes not only the best consumer hardware in the business but the best non-server OS as well. The fact that they make their consumer products easy to use and the eco system nice and tidy attracts people who want easy tech that looks nice and works smoothly.

You can improve any apple by installing linux on it.

 

[GoldenX]

You can improve any apple by installing linux on it.

Savage, but true.

 

[lexluthermiester]

As someone who develops software and admins servers I can tell you that Apple makes not only the best consumer hardware in the business but the best non-server OS as well.

That doesn't change the fact that they go out of their way to take advantage of peoples ego's and sense of vanity. I mean seriously, $1000 for a phone the battery of which might last you 2 years and you can't replace without spending $400? It's sold as a disposable status symbol. Vanity.

 

[GoldenX]

Plus scheduled preformance reductions, not so great hardware for their price, and the expensive maintenance.

 

[cdawall]

Plus scheduled preformance reductions, not so great hardware for their price, and the expensive maintenance.

Maintenance is no more expensive than any other laptop of the same class.

 

[GoldenX]

Maintenance is no more expensive than any other laptop of the same class.

Counting the "authorized" spare parts?
Plus, same class means I get an Nvidia GPU for the same price.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Maintenance is no more expensive than any other laptop of the same class.

Total and complete rubbish! I regularly repair both PC and Apple laptops. The difference in the cost of parts(if you can get them for Apple laptops) is seriously dramatic, often in the order of 10x more expensive than similar parts for PC laptops. And now that the DMCA has been amended, I no longer have to worry about getting sued by Apple for helping people fix their own property. This will likely result in better prices for parts to do such repairs.

 

[cdawall]

Counting the "authorized" spare parts?
Plus, same class means I get an Nvidia GPU for the same price.

No same class means aluminum unibody, slimline design with a 2.5-3K LCD. Not a plastic Asus piece of garbage, with a $75 LCD...

Total and complete rubbish! I regularly repair both PC and Apple laptops. The difference in the cost of parts(if you can get them for Apple laptops) is seriously dramatic, often in the order of 10x more expensive than similar parts for PC laptops. And now that the DMCA has been amended, I no longer have to worry about getting sued by Apple for helping people fix their own property. This will likely result in better prices for parts to do such repairs.

If I ordered a new logic board for a 2017 MBP or a new logic board for a slimline Lenovo or MSI or any other brand that was in the same price point/performance category it cost me the same.

You know what is cheaper? The board for a $450 Dell. Who would have guessed.

 

[R-T-B]

I don't care about said company warranties, I do the repairs regardless.

Good luck hacking the firmware sig check they are started to implement on parts in these markets.

While this ruling is goid, what it is NOT doing is still pretty aparent: stopping the practice. You might be able to legally hack the parts DRM now, but hacking is hard and gives no guarantee. You may still end up stuck. It's a good gesture, but we need more.

 

[GoldenX]

No same class means aluminum unibody, slimline design with a 2.5-3K LCD. Not a plastic Asus piece of garbage, with a $75 LCD...

Apart from some thermal throttling thanks to the "sexy slimline aliminium unibody", at the very least I don't get performance regressions updates. Plus something better than an Intel UHD for that nice 3K screen.

Man, expensive laptops can't justify themselves.

 

[cdawall]

Apart from some thermal throttling thanks to the "sexy slimline aliminium unibody", at the very least I don't get performance regressions updates. Plus something better than an Intel UHD for that nice 3K screen.

Man, expensive laptops can't justify themselves.

OH so you mean like the MBP with an RX460 1024SP and whatever Intel chip is going for this batch? It's funny you talk smack when the new razor looks like a MBP clone from 10 years ago. Obviously people like the design regardless of thermal throttling. I certainly like my 4980 based one with its 1tb nvme drive. Not much on the market right now competes with it in any class.

OH and for reference I got it because it had been run over by a truck. Spent $250 on ebay parts and ended up with a 3k+ laptop lol.

 

[GoldenX]

Dude, I'm defending it, compared to an iMac it's a lot better. It's just that I'm not a part of the "cosmetics over functionality".
There should be a market for a normal sized aluminium body notebook with good thermals AND good looks. Think of it, you don't need godlike batches (with godlike prices) to have good performance.
3k USD on the move... I'm not that strong willed.

 

[cdawall]

Dude, I'm defending it, compared to an iMac it's a lot better. It's just that I'm not a part of the "cosmetics over functionality".
There should be a market for a normal sized aluminium body notebook with good thermals AND good looks. Think of it, you don't need godlike batches (with godlike prices) to have good performance.
3k USD on the move... I'm not that strong willed.

The market exists and mac users happily buy them, the end users apparently don't care if they cannot run at full boost clocks 24/7 I am curious if that changes when there are ryzen chips stuffed into more things, they do seem to have a pretty good low power side to them.

 

[GoldenX]

The market exists and mac users happily buy them, the end users apparently don't care if they cannot run at full boost clocks 24/7 I am curious if that changes when there are ryzen chips stuffed into more things, they do seem to have a pretty good low power side to them.

I think it's going the "tablet with a keyboard" way, when Apple parts way with Intel, better ARM chips using passive cooling but having good performance will be their option. Heh, a 1K USD tablet with a keyboard, with soldered RAM and SSD. Good luck fixing that.
On the PC side, I don't know what is limiting the Ryzen notebooks, maybe it's The Big Blue like always, or maybe AMD has the best batches reserved for other things, or they simply don't produce enough mobile chips.

 

[lexluthermiester]

If I ordered a new logic board for a 2017 MBP or a new logic board for a slimline Lenovo or MSI or any other brand that was in the same price point/performance category it cost me the same.

Sorry, that is incorrect. But let's not argue.

 

[cdawall]

Sorry, that is incorrect. But let's not argue.

Then I guess every price I got directly from the manufacturer was wrong. Damn me and my lead tech position for a fortune 5 company.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Then I guess every price I got directly from the manufacturer was wrong. Damn me and my lead tech position for a fortune 5 company.

And damn me for being the owner of a PC repair business that has been in operation for over 20 years.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

Kids, kids, there is enough mudpies to go around.

Not every experience is the same for everyone, we all know retailers and manufacturers have different prices depending on the customer and how much he buys regularly. Volume buying is what gives you the discount.

 

[R0H1T]

Then I guess every price I got directly from the manufacturer was wrong. Damn me and my lead tech position for a fortune 5 company.

If you're talking about PC repair/parts for a fortune 5 company then that's not what an avg user pays. The same goes for every business ever, large clients do not pay what most individuals or smaller businesses pay for parts & other stuff.

 

[cdawall]

If you're talking about PC repair/parts for a fortune 5 company then that's not what an avg user pays. The same goes for every business ever, large clients do not pay what most individuals or smaller businesses pay for parts & other stuff.

So the average user would be purchasing second hand correct? If that is the assumption, then yet again purchase price for the brands and products I listed don't really change. All of the newer models are rare to find online and they are expensive when you start talking about thin and light high performance units. I don't know where this cheaper than Apple parts bin is for msi/Lenovo just out of warranty products, but I have some prior customers that would love to have it's location.