New PT Data: i9-9900K is 66% Pricier While Being Just 12% Faster than 2700X at Gaming

[Tsukiyomi91]

pls... Intel has been putting premium price tags on their higher end SKUs, being "surprised" is nothing out of the ordinary.

 

[GoldenX]

pls... Intel has been putting premium price tags on their higher end SKUs, being "surprised" is nothing out of the ordinary.

They weren't being forced to compete by AMD. Core 2 Dous and Pentium Ds were cheap when going against the Athlon 64 X2.

 

[XXL_AI]

This is a discussion about DESKTOP processors, not embedded crap, it's like saying my android tablet beats a windows desktop - they're aimed at different users.

your ignorance about Nvidia Jetson series are just crazy. Those systems are running full OS of Ubuntu, and it is most commonly a desktop OS worldwide. We do not need intel or amd cpus anymore because ARM can do thing better and way more efficient.

 

[GoldenX]

your ignorance about Nvidia Jetson series are just crazy. Those systems are running full OS of Ubuntu, and it is most commonly a desktop OS worldwide. We do not need intel or amd cpus anymore because ARM can do thing better and way more efficient.

As long as you run a Linux distro, or you can tolerate an emulator in Windows for the x86 exclusives.

 

[Deleted member 178884]

As long as you run a Linux distro, or you can tolerate an emulator in Windows for the x86 exclusives.

I guess he's missing the point, I'd like to see him run some synthetics like cinebench and common windows applications to see how it really performs.

 

[Gasaraki]

Intel should really clamp down on vendors charging way above MSRP. NEWEGG i'm looking at you!!!

 

[kapone32]

Intel should really clamp down on vendors charging way above MSRP. NEWEGG i'm looking at you!!!

It is not actually the retailers but distributors that have a tenable pricing model and then uptick to the retailer who then upticks to the consumer. Just look at Vega 64.

 

[gamerman]

well its huge different.. and i mean game speed different, 12% is big different,bcoz both are 8-core cpus.

its telling all and everything.. close anyway why 9900,9700 and 9600 and 8700 intes cpus are better. and must remembe 8700 is 6-core.

66% pricier is not teh point. ,except if you CANT buy once of 3-5 year best cpus....if you cant stay budget PC.

we still took about little more 100 dolalrs and it not ruin r€al gaµ€ play€rs budg€t,but that 12% speed can make gaming lower level.


sure amd2700x is lower rpice,ITS ONLY WAY TO TRY SELL IT......slower productalways trying sell lowers price...bcoz its loosers choice.
and suddenly,amd use that politics everywhere and always.... like 'its not bestmfastest and best tech..but its cheaper... like BMW vs skoda


- end -

 

[TheGuruStud]

well its huge different.. and i mean game speed different, 12% is big different,bcoz both are 8-core cpus.

its telling all and everything.. close anyway why 9900,9700 and 9600 and 8700 intes cpus are better. and must remembe 8700 is 6-core.

66% pricier is not teh point. ,except if you CANT buy once of 3-5 year best cpus....if you cant stay budget PC.

we still took about little more 100 dolalrs and it not ruin r€al gaµ€ play€rs budg€t,but that 12% speed can make gaming lower level.


sure amd2700x is lower rpice,ITS ONLY WAY TO TRY SELL IT......slower productalways trying sell lowers price...bcoz its loosers choice.
and suddenly,amd use that politics everywhere and always.... like 'its not bestmfastest and best tech..but its cheaper... like BMW vs skoda


- end -

So many bad analogies on the internet. BMW = garbage for 20 yrs lol

 

[R0H1T]

Losers' choice ~ is that why Intel needed to pay billions of dollars to make sure major OEMs skip AMD a decade back, or why two major HPC/super computers have announced EPYC based systems? Intel is the fastest gaming CPU no doubt, everything else you said is horse sh!t

 

[RealNeil]

Gamerman, please go to your forum control panel and fill out your system specs so we can all see what the non-loser's choices are in a PC build.
66% higher price IS the point. Why it's even in the title of this thread!

Maybe it's all about the fact that someone can spend less on a CPU to have more money left to spend on a GPU.
Better GPUs make a huge difference in gameplay, don't they?

 

[lexluthermiester]

Gamerman, please go to your forum control panel and fill out your system specs so we can all see what the non-loser's choices are in a PC build.

This is the choice of each individual forum user. Stating system specs are NOT obligatory.

Maybe it's all about the fact that someone can spend less on a CPU to have more money left to spend on a GPU.

Excellent point.

 

[RealNeil]

Stating system specs are NOT obligatory.

Yes, I know this, but I felt deprived of information and as they say, 'Enquiring Minds Want To Know' (and I did say please)

Excellent point.

My own opinion is that much more gaming magic occurs with better GPUs once your CPU/Motherboard/Memory reach a certain point.
My Ryzen 7 1700X system more than ticked all of the boxes.
Gaming was fluid with the pair of 1070Ti cards running SLI.
It was also fluid with a pair of GIGABYTE Radeon RX 580 8GB cards in Crossfire.

Benches were higher with the GTX cards, but Gaming was the same.

 

[ratirt]

well its huge different.. and i mean game speed different, 12% is big different,bcoz both are 8-core cpus.

its telling all and everything.. close anyway why 9900,9700 and 9600 and 8700 intes cpus are better. and must remembe 8700 is 6-core.

66% pricier is not teh point. ,except if you CANT buy once of 3-5 year best cpus....if you cant stay budget PC.

we still took about little more 100 dolalrs and it not ruin r€al gaµ€ play€rs budg€t,but that 12% speed can make gaming lower level.


sure amd2700x is lower rpice,ITS ONLY WAY TO TRY SELL IT......slower productalways trying sell lowers price...bcoz its loosers choice.
and suddenly,amd use that politics everywhere and always.... like 'its not bestmfastest and best tech..but its cheaper... like BMW vs skoda


- end -

I've got 2700X and I think it is a win for me. Not considering myself a loser.

 

[RealNeil]

AMD is announcing brand new 7nm process CPUs and GPUs at CES in January.

I'm waiting for those.

I believe that they will be a lot better, at good prices. They'll probably hit the market fairly soon after CES happens.
Also, the current batch of Ryzen CPUs will go down in price afterward.



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[RichF]

In my eyes, all computers are fairly cheap. They used to be $5000+. And they weren't even workstation class.

Other things are more expensive these days, however. So, the money you save by getting good bang out of the buck can help with that.

Beyond that, there is always something else out there that's worth buying.

 

[StrayKAT]

Other things are more expensive these days, however. So, the money you save by getting good bang out of the buck can help with that.

Beyond that, there is always something else out there that's worth buying.

True enough.. I'm blessed with a paid off house and don't need a car much though.

 

[ratirt]

AMD is announcing brand new 7nm process CPUs and GPUs at CES in January.

I'm waiting for those.

I believe that they will be a lot better, at good prices. They'll probably hit the market fairly soon after CES happens.
Also, the current batch of Ryzen CPUs will go down in price afterward.



Look Here for the scoop.

True that. I got 2700X and Vega 64 Red Devil (Vega bought just today). I could've waited for January. Then waited a bit longer for reviews. Then just waited cause there will be new stuff coming out. I decided it's time for me to buy things now cause I might have waited another year or more.

 

[RealNeil]

I see your point. there is always new gear on the horizon,......

Ryzen-7 2700X is probably a fine CPU. Reviews are very good.
I had a 1700X and it was good to go for gaming. (with decent GPUs)

I have one of those Red Devil Vega-64 cards here. I've been waiting to get a second one for crossfire to use it. Today I had a box come in from Newegg.
I bought a second Vega-64 card (Gigabyte for $400.00 ) last week and plan to set them up together later on tonight.

 

[ratirt]

I see your point. there is always new gear on the horizon,......

Ryzen-7 2700X is probably a fine CPU. Reviews are very good.
I had a 1700X and it was good to go for gaming. (with decent GPUs)

I have one of those Red Devil Vega-64 cards here. I've been waiting to get a second one for crossfire to use it. Today I had a box come in from Newegg.
I bought a second Vega-64 card (Gigabyte for $400.00 ) last week and plan to set them up together later on tonight.

How is that Vega Red devil treating you? Do you like it? I know there is a downside to the card due to the fact it's not the best ever but I got FreeSync and I just need to use it. From what I've read on the internet about Navi. The top AMD card will be up to 15% faster than Vega 64. Due to that I don't think waiting longer is any good for me.
I suppose the 3000 series Ryzen will be great. I must say I'm impressed with my 2700X. For now, I don't need to change it but if I will get a good deal on the new Ryzen I will get it.

 

[Metroid]

Everything boils down to price for me and that is the reason I never bought an extreme cpu version aka $999 tag, this cpu is way less than that but still shows an illusionary stamp of being premium. $600 is not that bad but for what it offers at moment x 2700x or even 8700 is not worth the extra plus the heat it generates makes it a bad investment any way you look at, yes you could disable hyper threading but if you do that so why not just purchase a 9700k then. Hyper threading, 50% more heat for 20% more performance, not worth it.

 

[ratirt]

Everything boils down to price for me and that is the reason I never bought an extreme cpu version aka $999 tag, this cpu is way less than that but still shows an illusionary stamp of being premium. $600 is not that bad but for what it offers at moment x 2700x or even 8700 is not worth the extra plus the heat it generates makes it a bad investment any way you look at, yes you could disable hyper threading but if you do that so why not just purchase a 9700k then. Hyper threading, 50% more heat for 20% more performance, not worth it.

I disagree with your premise. 2700X is really great and it is not an illusion but a fact. Too bad you can't see it but I do understand that. You don't posses one so how can you know. 8700K maybe overheats but 2700X doesn't. Actually the temps never go over 70deg C and when I crunch some stuff it's basically always 4.2 Ghz. Well that's because Intel's HT sucks and for me 2700X is premium but the price you need to pay for it isn't. Not like with the 8700K or 9700K. give nothing pay as much as possible.
No thanks.

 

[Metroid]

I disagree with your premise. 2700X is really great and it is not an illusion but a fact. Too bad you can't see it but I do understand that. You don't posses one so how can you know. 8700K maybe overheats but 2700X doesn't. Actually the temps never go over 70deg C and when I crunch some stuff it's basically always 4.2 Ghz. Well that's because Intel's HT sucks and for me 2700X is premium but the price you need to pay for it isn't. Not like with the 8700K or 9700K. give nothing pay as much as possible.
No thanks.

I dont think you understood what I wrote. As per the thread name, I used the 9900k, not 2700x in the argument.

 

[EarthDog]

Hyper threading, 50% more heat for 20% more performance, not worth it.

You dont get 50% more heat.

HT yields more than 20% performance increase.
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=HT-Core-Scaling-Xeon-SKL

 

[eidairaman1]

well its huge different.. and i mean game speed different, 12% is big different,bcoz both are 8-core cpus.

its telling all and everything.. close anyway why 9900,9700 and 9600 and 8700 intes cpus are better. and must remembe 8700 is 6-core.

66% pricier is not teh point. ,except if you CANT buy once of 3-5 year best cpus....if you cant stay budget PC.

we still took about little more 100 dolalrs and it not ruin r€al gaµ€ play€rs budg€t,but that 12% speed can make gaming lower level.


sure amd2700x is lower rpice,ITS ONLY WAY TO TRY SELL IT......slower productalways trying sell lowers price...bcoz its loosers choice.
and suddenly,amd use that politics everywhere and always.... like 'its not bestmfastest and best tech..but its cheaper... like BMW vs skoda


- end -

By the way BMW= broke man walking, because when they break you are walking.
Take your garbage elsewhere.

12% gain doesnt justify 66% price hike.

So many bad analogies on the internet. BMW = garbage for 20 yrs lol

Longer than that