New U.S. Regulation Prevents Huawei Buying from TSMC, Could Backfire: Chinese Press

[AsRock]

That's actually a good example of why US companies still manufacture overseas. Realistically no one cares about pollution if the source is not on their backyard.
Regardless of whether it's manufacturing or recycling, if you can't see it - it won't do you any harm. Build a polyethylene recycling factory in Maine, or an electronics dump in Cali - you'll get swarmed with neo-hippies.

Never mind 1/2 that shit is just burned out of sight.

 

[wahdangun]

I see repeatedly people say they would pay more for USA made products. So let's talk about economics and a few things -

1. The average factory worker in China makes $4-$5k RenMinBi (China Dollar) a month. That roughly translates to $700+ USD a month. Let's round it up nicely and say it is $800 USD.
2. A low end factory, union worker in the US makes $13 an hour. That translates to $13/hour x 8hour/day x 22 days/month to $2,288 USD a month.
3. Say we hold everything else such as materials cost equal, minus the transportation cost of shipping the finished products back to US, then would you say the cost of the goods will at least double to what we currently pay? In other words, an MSI laptop (a product made in China), costs $1k USD, but the Dell laptop with the same configuration but made in USA, will cost you $2k USD, will you be willing to pay double for it?
4. Basically, hypothetically, everything made in the USA will cost you double. Are you will to pay that to support USA to wean off its reliance on China? People say "pay more". What does "pay more" mean to you? 50% more? Double more? What can you afford to do? And, will your employer pay you double for your effort?
5. For decades, consumers have been trained to buy on cost, the cheapest goods but with certain quality, in other words the best bang for the bucks, regardless of where it was manufactured. Do you think we can now "untrain" that mindset? The cats are out of the bag. We are way too late for that. For manufacturers that charge double for the same goods but made in USA, people won't buy it and they will go out of business very soon.
6. What we need to do now is managing the relationship with China properly. The tariff hurts China as much as it hurts us, so they do want to talk and make it work. China needs us as much as we need them.

So, get off this silly notion of paying more for USA made goods. It may make you feel good, but in reality, most won't and can't even afford to do it.

no, it won't double the cost, because labor cost usually is not more than 20%, so at most it will increase price 10% to 15%

 

[ValenOne]

From https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/02/19/trump_tech_huawei/
President slams his own administration's 'ridiculous' China crackdown

Trump went on to say that he didn't want to sacrifice US companies on the basis of "fake national security." People, he said, without naming names, are "getting carried away."

"...I want our companies to be allowed to do business," he said. "I mean, things are put on my desk that have nothing to do with national security, including with chipmakers and various others."

In a statement emailed to The Register, John Neuffer, president and CEO of the Semiconductor Industry Association, which represents about 95 per cent of the US semiconductor industry, welcomed the ostensible clarification.

"We applaud President Trump’s tweets supporting US companies being able to sell products to China and opposing proposed regulations that would unduly curtail that ability," said Neuffer.

"As we have discussed with the Administration, sales of non-sensitive, commercial products to China drive semiconductor research and innovation, which is critical to America’s economic strength and national security."