Newegg.com Leaks Intel 13th Gen Core "Raptor Lake" Store Pages

[P4-630]

iGPU LMFAO

It is useful if you have problems with your dedicated GPU or for whatever reason you can't use your dedicated GPU....

Not everyone has spare GPU's...

 

[phanbuey]

So the Amazon UK pricing leak was correct then.

How is that - the amazon leak had $805 13900K this is showing $659

 

[Dirt Chip]

How is that - the amazon leak had $805 13900K this is showing $659

You have the answer- leak.

 

[SL2]

No it doesnt. 7950x draws 230w, same as 12900 and 13900 at full load.

Yet the efficiency for the 7950X is substantially higher than the 12900K, 61 %, when using that much power (= not gaming) in CBench, while still running 37 % faster. In this scenario, the Alder would actually use more power in rendering, and probably not only in CB or even C4D.

Looking at power consumption alone is a bit like people staring blindly at the clock speed, without caring how the CPU performs. They just need to get past 6 000 000 000 Hz or whatever.

 

[P4-630]

USD

 

[Konceptz]

It is useful if you have problems with your dedicated GPU or for whatever reason you can't use your dedicated GPU....

Not everyone has spare GPU's...

not even a spare GPU. iGPU is useful for transcoding (plex), etc you dont want to necessarily burden your dGPU with.

 

[Arco]

Gamers: Exist.
California Power Grid: Deexists.

 

[JrRacinFan]

Oh damn. This might make me switch back to an intel rig after being on an amd platform for about 12 years. I can reuse my ddr4 and let ddr5 mature even further. Very interesting. mmmm i7 silicon ....

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

Oh damn. This might make me switch back to an intel rig after being on an amd platform for about 12 years. I can reuse my ddr4 and let ddr5 mature even further. Very interesting. mmmm i7 silicon ....

Assuming your system spec is accurate, why would you upgrade already? You got a 5950x, let it age awhile. I mean I get it, hardware is fun, but upgrading every year is a huge waste of cash.

Remember to check for electricity prices. Intel usually gets around 100w higher power comsumption under load, and that means around 36€/year with current electricity prices if using the PC for 5 hours a day. Depending on how you use the PC and how many hours you're using it, it could easily mean you end up paying more after some years...

If $36 a year in electricity under heavy load for hours a day is that much of a deal breaker for you, you are not in the market in the first place and should not be spending $700+ on a CPU. Just saying.

 

[JrRacinFan]

Assuming your system spec is accurate, why would you upgrade already? You got a 5950x, let it age awhile. I mean I get it, hardware is fun, but upgrading every year is a huge waste of cash.

Im not sayin I'm going to move to a different platform. I look at things and keep on the up and up, just in case my gaming build does fall into a catastrophic failure. I like computers and building them. Even if it means selling my cuirrent hardware for half of what i paid. Im pure enthusiast and hobbyist.

 

[ARF]

AMD getting intel and Intel getting AMD

Just a simple marry-GO-round

What does that mean?

69

 

[fevgatos]

Yet the efficiency for the 7950X is substantially higher than the 12900K, 61 %, when using that much power (= not gaming) in CBench, while still running 37 % faster. In this scenario, the Alder would actually use more power in rendering, and probably not only in CB or even C4D.

Looking at power consumption alone is a bit like people staring blindly at the clock speed, without caring how the CPU performs. They just need to get past 6 000 000 000 Hz or whatever.

Actually at the stock 125/241 Intel configuration the 12900k is more efficient than the 7950x

 

[CyberCT]

I will ALWAYS buy a processor with an iGPU, just for diagnostic purposes.

I had these ridiculous instability issues that made absolutely no sense. Not going into details ... having the iGPU helped immensely in this patient trying time.

 

[shovenose]

Did that in the past but regret it... From now on only K CPU's , even just for the higher stock clocks.
Always nice to know I can eventually OC it when I want it.

What I wouldn't buy is a CPU without iGPU.

I agree. I don’t OC but I bought my 11600K because the clocks are much better stock than a regular 11600 and the price difference was almost nothing.

 

[ARF]

I will ALWAYS buy a processor with an iGPU, just for diagnostic purposes.

I had these ridiculous instability issues that made absolutely no sense. Not going into details ... having the iGPU helped immensely in this patient trying time.

How often does it happen? Can't you ask for help from anyone with a small graphics card?
I would honestly preferred if AMD used that die area for one or two more cores that can be used all the time.

Or... if not... they could at least try to make use of that iGPU for apps acceleration.

The answer is always a NO from them. It's like they are glued for the wrong decisions and always wrong decisions come from them.

 

[Raendor]

Did that in the past but regret it... From now on only K CPU's , even just for the higher stock clocks.
Always nice to know I can eventually OC it when I want it.

What I wouldn't buy is a CPU without iGPU.

Ha, I've done the opposite and been very happy getting b board with XMP and just setting PL1/PL2 to what I need. Works great and is cheap. K is not adding much to gaming besides generating heat.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

How often does it happen? Can't you ask for help from anyone with a small graphics card?
I would honestly preferred if AMD used that die area for one or two more cores that can be used all the time.

Or... if not... they could at least try to make use of that iGPU for apps acceleration.

The answer is always a NO from them. It's like they are glued for the wrong decisions and always wrong decisions come from them.

I've kept an old GT 710 for testing purposes, got it for $10 bucks and it still works years later.

 

[SL2]

Actually at the stock 125/241 Intel configuration the 12900k is more efficient than the 7950x

Making things up won't help you here...

12900K: 107.3 p
7950X: 173.4 p

 

[TheDeeGee]

I agree. I don’t OC but I bought my 11600K because the clocks are much better stock than a regular 11600 and the price difference was almost nothing.

FPS wise Non-K vs K is the same in gaming, base clocks means nothing as it will boost to max anyways.

 

[fevgatos]

Making things up won't help you here...

12900K: 107.3 p
7950X: 173.4 p
View attachment 263226

Thats running at 240w the whole run, not at 125 / 241 56 tau

Club386 has tested this, the 12900k scores 24k at 125w, so after the first cinebench run that tau has expired its more efficient than the 7950x

 

[TheLostSwede]

How is that - the amazon leak had $805 13900K this is showing $659

The price was British pounds, which includes 20% VAT.
That makes your $659 into $790, so the extra $15 is most likely just an early extra fee, as is common with these things.

 

[phanbuey]

-The price was British pounds, which includes 20% VAT.
That makes your $659 into $790, so the extra $15 is most likely just an early extra fee, as is common with these things.

Gotcha - always forget about the VAT. Brutal.

Making things up won't help you here...

12900K: 107.3 p
7950X: 173.4 p
View attachment 263226

5950X 220.9 pts...

So you have Zen 4 decreasing in efficiency, despite being on a smaller node, and raptor lake increasing in efficiency.... the gap is definitely narrowing.

What we know from Intel is this: when you start pumping clocks to hit the IPC leaps, you're running out of tricks in your bag.

 

[SL2]

Thats running at 240w the whole run, not at 125 / 241 56 tau

Club386 has tested this, the 12900k scores 24k at 125w, so after the first cinebench run that tau has expired its more efficient than the 7950x

You can blame yourself for not backing up what you claim.

Is this the one you're talking about? The 7950X is 51 % faster at 125 W, and 69 % faster at 65 W.

 

[P4-630]

is not adding much to gaming besides generating heat.

Well my iGPU doesn't add heat, since I don't use it because I use dedicated only now.

 

[SL2]

5950X 220.9 pts...

So you have Zen 4 decreasing in efficiency, despite being on a smaller node, and raptor lake increasing in efficiency.... the gap is definitely narrowing.

It's more like the 5000 was more of an exception rather than part of a trend. The 5000 series would most likely have had higher clock speeds if possible and beneficial.

Or, have a look at the last image I posted, at 125 W it's 289 p, that's insanely high while still having market leading CB score among mainstream CPU's. But yeah, it's not stock settings..

Edit: No, not from the same test and not measured in the same way.

Also, it's not like the competition has been constant. Alder is so much better than several previous generations from Intel. The high Hz was a given.