No more DVI ports on gpus?

lexluthermiester · Sep 7, 2020

arbiter said:
Pretty sure you can use HDMI to dvi cable and work just fine.

Those suggestions have already been made above, along with some links to cables.

Mr Bill · Sep 7, 2020

I just bought this monitor a few weeks ago, but I don't have a DP port on my card, just HDMI and DVI. Have to have a DP port to run it @144hz. :banghead:

HP 25x Gaming 24.5" Full HD Monitor, 144hz, 1ms Response, HDMI and DisplayPort inputs, 1000:1 Contrast Ratio, Gray/Green + CUE Accessories

lexluthermiester · Sep 8, 2020

Mr Bill said:
Have to have a DP port to run it @144hz.

No, HDMI will run 144hz just fine on that display. You'll be fine.

davidm71 · Sep 8, 2020

Just placed order for new monitor and new updated ports. Ordered the Asus VG259QM. Out of stock though. Viewsonic XG270 also looking good.

Mr Bill · Sep 8, 2020

lexluthermiester said:
No, HDMI will run 144hz just fine on that display. You'll be fine.

That Monitor is on my Dell i5 PC with a AMD Power Color GDDR5 Windows 10, it only shows the highest hz of 60hz. This is from the HP site " For 144 Hz you have to use Display Port AND install windows driver update from HP site".

R-T-B · Sep 8, 2020

lexluthermiester said:
No, HDMI will run 144hz just fine on that display. You'll be fine.

Depends a lot on the HDMI version. I think you'd need HDMI 1.3/1.4 at least for anything around above 1080p at 60hz+. Old 1.2 won't cut it.

HDMI honestly is just overclocked single link DVI, and pretty weak as a standard. The monitor is older and probably only implements HDMI 1.2.

Mussels · Sep 8, 2020

Support varies a lot between screens, i've definitely seen some weird ones where the HDMI standard was lagging so you have to use DP for full res/refresh support.

bubbleawsome · Sep 8, 2020

Also I can't think of the last GPU I had that didn't have DP. Even my 7770 had it, I think in mini form.

Mr Bill · Sep 8, 2020

bubbleawsome said:
Also I can't think of the last GPU I had that didn't have DP. Even my 7770 had it, I think in mini form.

I have the Power Color HD 7770 GDDR5 bought it at Micro Center many years ago, it doesn’t have a DP port, but it never mattered to me, and really still don’t. I’m good with that HP monitor and 7770 card since I’m not a gamer, it’s just Best Buy advertised it as a 144 Hz. I really like the monitor, so just plugging it into HDMI works for me. If/when I decide to purchase a new card, I’ll get one with a DP, but all it well with what I have.

This is the Power Color HD 7770 I have, no DP.

This is the way it was advertised....
HP 25x - 24.5-inch LED Full HD 1920x1080 Gaming Monitor, 144 Hz Refresh Rate - Gray/Green

kiriakost · Sep 8, 2020

Personally I do not care of refresh rate specifications, my DELL IPS U2311H, after of 9,5 years this is has not decided yet to be recycled.
When I will upgrade to ASUS 1660 Super mini OC, and after loading the monitor inf file, I think that backwards compatibility will be restored.

lexluthermiester · Sep 8, 2020

Mr Bill said:
This is from the HP site " For 144 Hz you have to use Display Port AND install windows driver update from HP site".

Do you have the exact model number? I'd like to look up specs and whatnot. I suspect that you need to set the refresh-rate manually as Windows generally defaults to 60hz. You should be able to at least get 100hz or 120hz as a manual selection.

Mr Bill said:
This is the way it was advertised....
HP 25x - 24.5-inch LED Full HD 1920x1080 Gaming Monitor, 144 Hz Refresh Rate - Gray/Green

Then it should do it. As long as you GPU has at least HDMI 1.3 or better, 144hz at 1440p is doable.

R-T-B said:
Depends a lot on the HDMI version. I think you'd need HDMI 1.3/1.4 at least for anything around above 1080p at 60hz+. Old 1.2 won't cut it.

True!

R-T-B said:
HDMI honestly is just overclocked single link DVI, and pretty weak as a standard.

Not so true. HDMI has a number of features that DVI did not.

R-T-B said:
The monitor is older and probably only implements HDMI 1.2.

That's what I want to look up with an exact model number. This discussion is all academic if the display itself isn't spec'd to do it.

Mussels · Sep 8, 2020

Ignoring the academic side of things, a dual-link HDMI to DVI adaptor would work for the OP, same as DP to dual link DVI (probably need to be a powered, active adaptor for that one)

Mr Bill · Sep 8, 2020

lexluthermiester said:
Do you have the exact model number? I'd like to look up specs and whatnot. I suspect that you need to set the refresh-rate manually as Windows generally defaults to 60hz. You should be able to at least get 100hz or 120hz as a manual selection.

This number was taken right off the back of my monitor.
HSD-0011-Q

Some information, but doesn't look to be helpful https://fccid.io/R-REM-hpi-HSD-0011-Q

Thanks! Bill

lexluthermiester · Sep 8, 2020

Mr Bill said:
This number was taken right off the back of my monitor.
HSD-0011-Q

Some information, but doesn't look to be helpful https://fccid.io/R-REM-hpi-HSD-0011-Q

Thanks! Bill

Any other numbers? Something like 3WL50AA#ABB for example.

mbeeston · Sep 8, 2020

hp 25x has a hdmi 1.4 port far as i know, i have one in my closet.

davidm71 · Sep 8, 2020

This is a good read:

How to Connect to a 120+ Hz display

Table of Contents: 0. Acer GN246HL and BenQ XL2411Z-specific instructions 1. Terminology 2. Summary: How to Connect to a 120+ Hz Monitor 2.1. DisplayPort 2.2. DVI 2.3. HDMI 2.4. "Which one should I use?" 3. DisplayPort 3.1. Full-Size DP vs. Mini DP Connectors 3.2. DP Versions and...

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lexluthermiester · Sep 8, 2020

mbeeston said:
hp 25x has a hdmi 1.4 port far as i know, i have one in my closet.

That's the spec I was looking for. With HDMI 1.4 1080p@144hz will work but you need to manually set the hz in the Display settings within Windows.

Mr Bill · Sep 8, 2020

lexluthermiester · Sep 8, 2020

Mr Bill said:
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Manufacture date: July 2020
That will be DP 1.4 and HDMI 2.0 bare minimum. So again, 144hz is doable over HDMI as long as the GPU can output it. Remind us all, what's your GPU?

Mr Bill · Sep 8, 2020

Radeon HD 7770 1GB DDR5 Power Color
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4460 CPU
@ 3.20GHz 4 Cores

lexluthermiester · Sep 8, 2020

Mr Bill said:
Radeon HD 7770 1GB DDR5 Power Color
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4460 CPU
@ 3.20GHz 4 Cores

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That might be your limitation. That card is from 2012. Have you tried setting the refresh rate in the display settings to something higher than 60hz?

Mr Bill · Sep 8, 2020

lexluthermiester said:
That might be your limitation. That card is from 2012. Have you tried setting the refresh rate in the display settings to something higher than 60hz?

Tried it in the OS settings "no go" and looked for it in the Radeon Software settings, but could not find it in the Radeon settings, maybe I missed something.

lexluthermiester · Sep 8, 2020

Mr Bill said:
Tried it in the OS settings "no go" and looked for it in the Radeon Software settings, but could not find it in the Radeon settings, maybe I missed something.

Nope, it would have been a selectable option. Are you open for a newer GPU? There are plenty of newer cards that can do better than the one you have now..

Mr Bill · Sep 8, 2020

lexluthermiester said:
Nope, it would have been a selectable option. Are you open for a newer GPU? There are plenty of newer cards that can do better than the one you have now..

Yes! that was my next move, just to get another GPU with a DP. My issues is, I don't game, so I don't need a 200-300 dollar card, just something close to the one I have with a DP.

This is what I get when I try and set it to 120 Hz it only goes up to the 120 Hz. It's 59 or nothing, as for as the highest refresh rate... :mad:

EDIT:

Ok, there is a God, somehow I messed around with the display setting and go it to accept the 120 Hz, it never showed an option for 144 Hz, but I'm good, not going to get greedy. :clap:

lexluthermiester · Sep 8, 2020

Mr Bill said:
Yes! that was my next move, just to get another GPU with a DP. My issues is, I don't game, so I don't need a 200-300 dollar card, just something close to the one I have with a DP.

That said, here are a few examples of what would likely be able to give you that 144hz;

System Name	Alienware PC
Processor	Intel 4790K
Motherboard	ASROCK Z97 EXTREME4
Cooling	Stock Intel Cooler
Memory	32GB DDR3 1600 MHz
Video Card(s)	ATI Radeon HD 7770 2GB GDDR5
Storage	SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2
Display(s)	SAMSUNG UE57 Series 28-Inch 4K UHD
Case	Alienware Area 51 Black Tower Case
Audio Device(s)	Realtek On Board
Power Supply	EVGA 850 watt
Mouse	Microsoft Wireless
Keyboard	HyperX - Alloy Elite 2 Mechanical Gaming Keyboard.
Software	Windows 10 Pro & LTSB & LTSC Windows 11 Pro

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Processor	Intel 4790K
Motherboard	ASROCK Z97 EXTREME4
Cooling	Stock Intel Cooler
Memory	32GB DDR3 1600 MHz
Video Card(s)	ATI Radeon HD 7770 2GB GDDR5
Storage	SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2
Display(s)	SAMSUNG UE57 Series 28-Inch 4K UHD
Case	Alienware Area 51 Black Tower Case
Audio Device(s)	Realtek On Board
Power Supply	EVGA 850 watt
Mouse	Microsoft Wireless
Keyboard	HyperX - Alloy Elite 2 Mechanical Gaming Keyboard.
Software	Windows 10 Pro & LTSB & LTSC Windows 11 Pro

System Name	Pioneer
Processor	Ryzen 9 9950X
Motherboard	GIGABYTE Aorus Elite X670 AX
Cooling	Noctua NH-D15 + A whole lotta Sunon, Phanteks and Corsair Maglev blower fans...
Memory	64GB (2x 32GB) G.Skill Flare X5 @ DDR5-6000 CL30
Video Card(s)	XFX RX 7900 XTX Speedster Merc 310
Storage	Intel 5800X Optane 800GB boot, +2x Crucial P5 Plus 2TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSDs
Display(s)	55" LG 55" B9 OLED 4K Display
Case	Thermaltake Core X31
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Power Supply	FSP Hydro Ti Pro 850W
Mouse	Logitech G305 Lightspeed Wireless
Keyboard	WASD Code v3 with Cherry Green keyswitches + PBT DS keycaps
Software	Gentoo Linux x64 / Windows 11 Enterprise IoT 2024

System Name	Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load)
Processor	Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core)
Motherboard	Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded)
Cooling	Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate
Memory	2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V)
Video Card(s)	Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W))
Storage	2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2
Display(s)	Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) \| Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) \| Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144)
Case	Fractal Design R6
Audio Device(s)	Logitech G560 \| Corsair Void pro RGB \|Blue Yeti mic
Power Supply	Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY)
Mouse	Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL
Keyboard	Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps)
VR HMD	Oculus Rift S + Quest 2
Software	Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware!
Benchmark Scores	Nyooom.

Processor	5900x
Motherboard	MSI MEG UNIFY
Cooling	Arctic Liquid Freezer 2 360mm
Memory	4x8GB 3600c16 Ballistix
Video Card(s)	EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra
Storage	1TB SX8200 Pro, 2TB SanDisk Ultra 3D, 6TB WD Red Pro
Display(s)	Acer XV272U
Case	Fractal Design Meshify 2
Power Supply	Corsair RM850x
Mouse	Logitech G502 Hero
Keyboard	Ducky One 2

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Cooling	ProlimaTech Armageddon - Dual GELID 140 Silent PWM
Memory	Mushkin Blackline DDR3 2400 997123F 16GB
Video Card(s)	MSI GTX1060 OC 6GB (single fan) Micron
Storage	WD Raptors 73Gb - Raid1 10.000rpm
Display(s)	DELL U2311H
Case	HEC Compucase CI-6919 Full tower (2003) moded .. hec-group.com.tw
Audio Device(s)	Creative X-Fi Music + mods, Audigy front Panel - YAMAHA quad speakers with Sub.
Power Supply	HPU-4M780-PE refurbished 23-3-2022
Mouse	MS Pro IntelliMouse 16.000 Dpi Pixart Paw 3389
Keyboard	Microsoft Wired 600
Software	Win 7 Pro x64 ( Retail Box ) for EU

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Motherboard	ASUS TUF Gaming X570-Plus Wifi
Cooling	Corsair H110 Extreme Performance AIO
Memory	2x 16gb G.Skill Ripjaws @ 3800Mhz 16-16-16-38
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Case	Corsair Obsidian 750D W/ airflow kit
Audio Device(s)	SoundblasterX AE-5 plus / Asus Xonar DX
Power Supply	Carsair 850-M
Mouse	Logitech Proteus spectrum G502
Keyboard	Logitech G213 Prodigy
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