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No Takers for VR: TechPowerUp New GPU Survey

MxPhenom 216 said:
Don't care for VR at all. Seems very impractical.
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This^^ To which I'll add...not even in my lifetime do I see it being practical. Holodeck technology, then sign me up. Headset...no thanks. No interest whatsoever.
 
I've been meaning to set up my phone with Cardboard and something like VRidge to give VR a try on the cheap. I highly doubt I'll try a "real" VR headset until prices come down though.

MrGenius said:
This^^ To which I'll add...not even in my lifetime do I see it being practical. Holodeck technology, then sign me up. Headset...no thanks. No interest whatsoever.
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I assume you're referring to the lack of touch?
 
I feel like the poll results are a bit misleading. I put price / performance ahead of VR, does that mean I'm not interested in VR?
 
Where is the option "All of the above?"
DX12 and Vlukan options don't really fit in the picture, since all of the upcoming cards will support both. No one even thinks about it, because it is already taken for granted.
VR is also "supported" by most upcoming cards (boils down to 2K-playability), so there is nothing to consider - you get it whether you care about it or not.

Also, I'm not sure about everyone here, but I always consider PRICE/PERFORMANCE/EFFICIENCY together before buying a new GPU.
Here's an example:
- card XXX costs $100 and scores 1000 pipimarks
- card YYY costs $110 and scores 900 pipimarks
- card XXX has a 120W max power draw
- card YYY has a 90W max power draw

Even though card XXX is $10 cheaper and 10% faster, I would still select card YYY because it is more efficient (and consequentially colder, quieter and less demanding on PSU) within similar price/performance category.

Basically what I am trying to say is that this poll is invalid, until you make it a multi-option poll. I care about all of it, including VR.
 
xvi said:
I've been meaning to set up my phone with Cardboard and something like VRidge to give VR a try on the cheap. I highly doubt I'll try a "real" VR headset until prices come down though.


I assume you're referring to the lack of touch?
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Try VRSE, it is one of the best VR showcase for phone based VR experience. VRSE evolution was the one that WOWed me.
 
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AMD offers better price/performance in most price ranges, better DirectX12, probably better Vulkan, at least equal if not better 4K, still people go with Nvidia.

Don't get me wrong. I only point that reality proves the above chart 100% wrong.
 
As an owner of the Rift CV1 I can say that the low interest for VR is due to the limited experiences users have with it. Once tried everyone wants to have it at home. It's really that simple. And don't judge VR by the movies with low resolution or the GearVR - the gaming experience with the CV1 is absolutely stunning!
 
well, i don't have enough money to buy a single VR Headset (even 3D glasses or monitor that able to support it lol) and also right now, i can't afford to buy a 4K monitor. so i picked price/perf.

john_ said:
AMD offers better price/performance in most price ranges, better DirectX12, probably better Vulkan, at least equal if not better 4K, still people go with Nvidia.

Don't get me wrong. I only point that reality proves the above chart 100% wrong.
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Indeed. that's true. I believe their pr and marketing are working well as opposed with AMD which complete broken. I must admit their marketing strategies were really genius. Furthermore, their loyalist even want to work as their e-/tele-marketing for free. that's really amazing.
 
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Was there no secondary question of Price or Performance for those who chose Price/Performance? I'd be curious how it would have looked between the two choices. Some focus on price, others performance.
 
red_stapler said:
I feel like the poll results are a bit misleading. I put price / performance ahead of VR, does that mean I'm not interested in VR?
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No of course not, it simply means that you afford price/performance a higher priority, for me, I think VR looks interesting but I am not a hardcore gamer so would I spend the dollar to use it, probably not but that does not mean that I don't think it has potential in the future.
 
xkm1948 said:
As a hardcore PC lover, I would say give it try before you write it off. You have no idea what you are missing.
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potentially that's a lot of cash to write off
 
xvi said:
I assume you're referring to the lack of touch?
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IMO anything less than Holodeck is not Virtually Real. So yeah. Touch, taste, sight, smell. The whole nine yards. If there's too much to remind me it's not 100% real, then it's not true VR IMO. Having anything strapped to any body part sounds like it would ruin it for me. Not that it couldn't be an interesting experience. I'm sure it is. But I find the real world as interesting as anything could possibly be. Come close to matching that...then we'll talk.

VR in its current state is Pong. I want Battlefield on a virtually real battlefield. Same as the real deal...except the getting killed part.
 
xkm1948 said:
Wrong! Because most of the readers never experienced VR. Plus the old 3D everything gimmick probably left some bad memory.

As a hardcore PC lover, I would say give it try before you write it off. You have no idea what you are missing.

Really I thought as PC owners we are more open minded to new tech. :(
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Bah Bs for the most part, i think it's a gimmick because i never tried it could be further from the truth, i understand there is a cool factor and a massive wow factor as that's what i experienced with TrackIR many years ago and still do today.

How ever understanding that VR puts your head in the game even more than TrackIR will do as you have to keep your eye's on the screen(s) in front of you.

How ever TrackIR is $150 set back and does not require better hardware from not using it. Were as with VR you need much better hardware to run a game than normal, then their is the crazy assed price tag.

All so VR is new to the market too so they will get cheaper and performance will get better over time so a lot of people like my self are just waiting.


Maybe people have more sence when new tech comes even more so after being some what screwed over for not waiting "COUGH 3D".
 
I've played a lot of first person shooters throughout the years. I've heard reports of people getting sick from playing FPS games on traditional monitors and its not something that has typically happened to me. Therefore I would say that some people are just more susceptible to motion sickness / VR-sickness then others.

That is not to say that this couldn't be induced in 100% or near 100% of people using VR if that were the intended purpose. Game designers / hardware makers are clearly trying to avoid this side effect though.
 
VR may not get that cheap after all. Flag ship cellphones still cost $400+ off contract.
 
xkm1948 said:
VR may not get that cheap after all. Flag ship cellphones still cost $400+ off contract.
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That may be true but the lower-end ~$200 / sub ~$200 off contract phone specs have increased significantly,....at least among some models.
 
Not interested in VR because my favorite games have nothing to do with VR.

Crusader kings 2 in VR...? No thanks.
 
I'm not eager to spend ~$800 on the HTC Vive or ~$600 on the Oculus Rift. However, I do have a PS4 so I pre-ordered the PSVR for ~$400. If it can be hacked to run on the PC then great. If Sony allows PC support then even better:

Sony might bring PlayStation VR to the PC
 
I feel personally like VR sucks because I'd want to get up and walk around and then I'd hit the mess of things in my room, probably knock over a toaster or something and burn my house down. All while believing I was fighting aliens.
 
Everyone should try VR at least once. It's really darn cool (I have a Oculus Rift DK2) and will get better as resolutions and technology improves. That being said, most games I play are 1st person shooters. I get nauseated easily from trying 1st person shooters on the DK2. What did take me away as being really cool are driving games. Project cars with a wheel setup is awesome. I didn't get motion sickness and with the depth perception in your FOV and just keeping your hands on the wheel ... it is REALLY cool and really gives a sense of realism. I had a 720p DLP 3D projector working with Nvidia 3D vision and I did not get any motion sickness in any games I played (1st person shooters included).

Ultimately, I would still prefer playing games (since most are 1st person I enjoy) at 4K 60hz. I just bought last year's Vizio 60" 4K TV on sale at Costco and it is fantastic especially at 120hz 1080p on such a large screen. If I can play any game on this TV maxed out with downsampling that would be my #1 priority.
 
R-T-B said:
I feel personally like VR sucks because I'd want to get up and walk around and then I'd hit the mess of things in my room, probably knock over a toaster or something and burn my house down. All while believing I was fighting aliens.
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You do know Vive room tracking can avoid all that right?

Why so much bad prejudice when the majority haven't even tried it? Aren't we supposed to be open minded. Gee I think as PC owners we are the cool guys, not the conservative shut everything out old timers.
 
its not that people don't like VR, its that this is the 3rd time in the last 20 years that VR has been announced as the next big thing and 2 previous times some of us spend a good chunk on hardware that was soon without any programming or support.

its a Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me thing.

so now here comes round 3 and I'm like...meh.
 
Even if I wanted VR, everything is on backorder for months.
 
xkm1948 said:
You do know Vive room tracking can avoid all that right?

Why so much bad prejudice when the majority haven't even tried it? Aren't we supposed to be open minded. Gee I think as PC owners we are the cool guys, not the conservative shut everything out old timers.
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I'm going to drop a hint:

I was joking.

VR isn't for me personally as I don't have the money for starters. But I don't see it as evil or bad in it's current form.
 
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