Now that W10 is out, are you a W7 / W8 refusenik?

[eidairaman1]

You can easily hide it.

Right-click on taskbar -> Search -> Hidden

Can it be reimplemented in the Start Menu?

 

[Mussels]

Can it be reimplemented in the Start Menu?

search never left the start menu - type away with it open.

the search bar is cortana related, which is seperate.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Yeah, as Mussels said:
1) click start to expand it
2) start typing and it automatically switches to the search

You can also collapse the search box to just a magnify lense so it doesn't occupy so much space.

Alternatively: right-click on start and click on Search.

 

[Mussels]

disabling forced windows updates and right clicking the start menu to find the menus i use all the time basically made W10 a breeze, much less adjustment/learning curve compared to 8.0

 

[Ahhzz]

Can't argue that 10 is not better than 8. Of course, still, a fresh cow pie in the face is better than 8.

 

[RejZoR]

Do you know what Windows Update driver updating reminds me of? Malware. This shit is so persistent as the worst malware. No matter how you remove, uninstall, hide, disable or delete that shit, it just keeps coming back. The NVIDIA drivers, the ones that auto install during first system startup. That crap kept coming back and even when I've disabled it, it just autoinstalled itself again. It's freaking retarded.

I have this shit working now, but I'm just waiting for next driver delivered through Windows Update. I bet it'll fuck it all up again. Giving Win10 a chance again, but it's again the same horrible experience as I've experienced it the first time. I just don't get Microsoft's logic.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Yeah, even with the driver hiding, it only applies to the current version of said driver. Microsoft basically wants you to try the new driver every time it is released and hide it again if they are still problematical. The hope is that the problems will be fixed.

 

[RejZoR]

It'll never be fixed for as long as they'll use this retarded updating model. Not to mention Windows Update graphics driver also installs other garbage like that 3D crap that I don't need and some multimonitor nonsense and HD Audio driver. Which I also don't need. I bet it'll ruin everything once WU gets driver that is newer than what I have. Mark my words it'll happen...

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Bet on it. When AMD pushes out a non-beta driver, Windows Update will grab it.

 

[RejZoR]

I'm on NVIDIA currently but the same shit. And hell it'll be jolly with the AMD E-450 laptop. I doubt AMD will fix their broken driver that for some retarded reason doesn't support E-450 APU at all and yet Windows Update somehow manages to install it regardless (and then everything works like crap).

 

[lemonadesoda]

By mistake I hit return while working in Excel. I was entering data. But at that moment the gruesome "want to update to W10?" dialog appeared and all of a sudden my PC was taken over by MS and I was forced through a W10 upgrade. I notice no difference in using W10 over W8. Perhaps W8 was a bit snappier / but that might have something to do with the maturity of the graphics drivers on W10 and nV Quadro. However, I absolutely h8 the automatic updating and rebooting of W10. What are MS thinking? That THEY can force you to take a coffee break when THEY want you to... irrespective of your own priorities, schedule and deadlines? It is grossly inappropriate. So I have downloaded W10privacy and discovered a whole host of "call home" utilities embedded into W10. I am even more angry at MS. So now I give MS the proverbial middle finger and have turned off EVERYTHING I can. There are more than 50 settings to turn off, FAR MORE than what is offered by MS/Settings/Privacy options. MS are rogues. In fact, it is making me think that OSX is no longer the greater evil. I am far more open to trying an alternative OS to Windows because of the self-interested philosophy MS has taken on-board. I don't subscribe to it. So IF i am forced down that route, I'll opt for the cheaper OSX and to send a message to MS. We dont like it. You are betraying your loyal customers who have been with you since WFW 3.11

 

[Drone]

Rant /

I wonder if Microsoft Catalog has latest drivers for Intel VGA and MEI and even the latest whql Realtek HD audio why on Earth Windows Update downloads and installs old drivers. What the actual fuck?

/rant over

 

[FordGT90Concept]

To punish people that go direct to the manufacture for updates, of course! I really hope they change their driver policy with the November update.

 

[Drone]

Eh, they don't punish anyone. It's just their system that beyond my ken. The best way to get Intel VGA and Realtek audio (at least for Windows 10) is Microsoft Catalog anyway. I never go to Intel or Realtek site

 

[RejZoR]

Anyone else experiencing weird hybrid sleep behavior?

For example, when my system goes into sleep, when I want to wake it up by pressing any key on keyboard, it seems like system actually shuts down properly in that moment. I mean, the sfans wake up, they spin full speed like during bootup, but they just stay this way until system shuts down entirely. And when I want to start it up, it just cycles in lopp, doing bootup and instant shutdown.

I have to pull it flip PSU switch to off, wait a bit and fire it up. Then it wakes up from where it has gone to sleep. Absolutely moronic. Because of this crap I now just have it in always-on mode so it doesn't ever go into sleep.

Why is this stupid sleep crap never working right? I've always had stupid problems with this function on all systems going as far as back to days of WinVista.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

I disable sleep on all of my computers. They're off, on, or on with monitors off.

In order for sleep states to work correctly, the motherboard, operating system, processor, and power supply have to fully support it.

 

[RejZoR]

They did in the past, but now that I have a brand new spanking system, it doesn't anymore. Progress...

 

[rtwjunkie]

OK, this is now something that has made me dig my feet in the ground. Today is patch Tuesday.

It's a good thing I actually look at what updates are in the list. None of the mandatory/important updates are checked. This is strange. Then i go to see what optional ipdates are available.

Only one is checked: Upgrade to W10 Home. This has now crossed into forcing an OS on someone. If I had not checked, as the average user doesn't, or if it was on auto-update, as M$ "recommends", it would have downloaded and installed.

That is not acceptable behavior.

Edit: I hid the update, and upon reboot to get my Office updates, they were not checked, but the optional update to W10 that I hid was checked again. Grrrrr....

 

[FordGT90Concept]

What's the KB# on it?

 

[rtwjunkie]

No kb. It just says upgrade to windows 10 Home. Very sneaky, underhanded shit. And it lists the size of the download as something like 2.9 GB.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Weird. That doesn't sound like GWX. Maybe they integrated GWX features into Windows Update so it skips "preparing for Windows 10" and goes straight to "install now."

 

[rtwjunkie]

Exactly. They've gone from asking to doing it forcefully to any holdouts that aren't paying attention.

 

[Drone]

Yesterday updates fixed some shit and I was kinda sorta glad but then I checked Catalog Update and ... lol it had newest Realtek LAN (version 10.5.826.2015) and Broadcom WLAN (version 7.35.308.0) but when I tried to install them Device manager said that my drivers are up to date. For fuck's sake ...

 

[CounterZeus]

Windows 10 is the worst Windows OS I've used in my entire life and I've been using Windows since 3.1. All the spying nonsense and the most retarded Windows Update I've ever seen and used made me hate this damn thing like crazy.

I've even tried the tool that supposedly gives you contro over what Windows Update installs and what not and it's the clumsiest and most retarded thing I've seen in my life. Just as retarded as entire Windows 10 itself. I'm still banging my head against desk wondering how could a corporation like Microsoft with such long history of developing good operating system screw something up so god damn badly.

Built my whole system to be DirectX 12 ready and now I can't use it because OS itself is so retarded and I'm forced to stay with Windows 8.1. Just wow Microsoft, you've managed to do the impossible...

I guess you skipped Win ME Still have nightmares.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

apart from not being able to find anything anymore it seems tolerable.

well done Microsoft.....mediocre.