Now that W10 is out, are you a W7 / W8 refusenik?

[Delta6326]

Ok finally upgrading pc after 7+years, going to fresh install W10 from 8.1, any tips for settings to change? or maybe thing's that I might not know about. running 2x m.2 ssd's
Side note: getting ready to switch hardware over, anyone know the latest memtest? I can only find memtest86, if I recall isn't this outdated and newer version/brand out?

 

[Xzibit]

Ok finally upgrading pc after 7+years, going to fresh install W10 from 8.1, any tips for settings to change? or maybe thing's that I might not know about. running 2x m.2 ssd's
Side note: getting ready to switch hardware over, anyone know the latest memtest? I can only find memtest86, if I recall isn't this outdated and newer version/brand out?

Probably thinking about memtest86+ which was based on memtest86. + hasn't been updated since 2013.

memtest86

 

[Delta6326]

Hey guys got W10 pro installed and is giving me error code. Claims it doesn't like my legit W8 pro code. Any ideas?
Otherwise everything else is going good.
Already wiped my old install drive....
Back to sleep for me.

 

[RejZoR]

Did you install it via offered upgrade or some other way (like installing Win10 over Win8 using ISO)?

 

[rtwjunkie]

Did you install it via offered upgrade or some other way (like installing Win10 over Win8 using ISO)?

I bet he didn't do the upgrade first, and went.straight to fresh install.

 

[RejZoR]

Yeah, that's why I've asked. I've tried activating Win10 with Win7 key and I couldn't. Now I have to reinstall Win7 and then Win10 again...

 

[Aquinus]

Yeah, that's why I've asked. I've tried activating Win10 with Win7 key and I couldn't. Now I have to reinstall Win7 and then Win10 again...

The first time you need to do the upgrade process when using a Win 7 key, this upgrades the key itself on the activation server. The second time you should be able to install Win 10 right from the 7 key and activate. That's how it has worked for me so far. I've done 2 clean installs of Win 10 with my 7 key already but, I did the upgrade process from Win 7 to 10.

 

[AsRock]

The first time you need to do the upgrade process when using a Win 7 key, this upgrades the key itself on the activation server. The second time you should be able to install Win 10 right from the 7 key and activate. That's how it has worked for me so far. I've done 2 clean installs of Win 10 with my 7 key already but, I did the upgrade process from Win 7 to 10.

Not how i did it, upon being time to installed a fresh copy of win10, i just installed it and it automatically activated and no i do not use a MS account.

 

[Aquinus]

Not how i did it, upon being time to installed a fresh copy of win10, i just installed it and it automatically activated and no i do not use a MS account.

Don't know then. I've heard of people not being to activate doing it directly that way. Maybe something has changed on MS' side since. I can only tell you what worked for me and from what I've observed.

 

[RejZoR]

Windows 10 builds from 1511 and up should be able to accept Win7 key directly, but only if the key has been activated before. If you have a clean unused key, it won't work. I had such situation.

 

[trog100]

i did a fresh win 10 install on an old dell machine i have.. it activated okay without any product keys.. the machine had win 7 on it but i just reformatted and did the fresh install.. i then later reformatted the original hardrive and put win 10 on a small SSD.. again it all activated without problems.. it ask for a key but i selected the skip and do it later options.. i never had to though it all simply activated..

i came to the conclusion that MS were not that bothered any more they just want as many folks on win 10 as they can get.. that is my own experience.. it may differ for others..

i also ran win xp for years without MS support with no problems.. what finished it off in the end wasnt lack of MS support it was lack of many other things support.. more and more newer stuff just would not install on it.. in the end it made sticking with xp more trouble than it was worth so i installed a dual boot win 7 option..

my win 7 phase never lasted long.. i rapidly moved to win 10.. to be honest it looks very like my old xp used to look.. i have no problems with it.. at least no more than with any other operating system change..

trog

 

[Delta6326]

You are correct I did clean install without upgrading w8 first. I did this because I read you don't need to any more with the latest build, anyone know how to check the downloaded build I'd? Maybe i got a old one. Installing via USB.

Maybe I need to do the call thing?

Side note, I backed up all my important files to my 2Tb ext and 1 folder of pictures won't transfer over to my media drive, says I don't have permission cant even view it and to change via security tab, won't let me change anything.

Edit: when I get home I will post the error code I was too tired last night.

 

[Kursah]

The first time you need to do the upgrade process when using a Win 7 key, this upgrades the key itself on the activation server. The second time you should be able to install Win 10 right from the 7 key and activate. That's how it has worked for me so far. I've done 2 clean installs of Win 10 with my 7 key already but, I did the upgrade process from Win 7 to 10.

I've installed at least a dozen fresh installs with 7 and 8 keys using the latest ISO, no issues. I've used new keys, activated keys, it has made no difference in my experience with this latest ISO. So hopefully folks don't have to waste time upgrading to do a fresh installation any longer...but it seems there's still quite a few issues.

@Delta6326 I use the version downloaded from here: https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/software-download/windows10

I have only used new 7 and 8 Pro keys, where already used keys were a split between OEM Home and Pro and non-OEM home and pro. But the latest ISO I downloaded last month has worked perfectly for each install I've done. I'd say re-download the latest ISO and try again...I'll check with my bench guy this morning as he's got a couple 10 units to deploy this afternoon, fresh builds for our office we're using some of our remaining 7 and 8 keys on. I'm going to see if we can duplicate the issue and use some of our remaining unused keys. But last time we did, those machines activated right away and installed w/o error messages... more to come hopefully in a couple hours.

 

[Delta6326]

OK, sadly re- downloading will take hours farm internet.

I wish I wouldn't have formated my old drive right away, but using it now for music pic, videos. Ssd replaced it.

 

[Kursah]

Sorry to hear that, and do I understand..been a while since I was on rural internet, is it line-of-site out your way?

We just started a fresh 10 install with an 8 Pro key (unused), and it took just fine, installing now. This is a non-OEM key that we used.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Does "Extend these displays" break for everyone else on computer restart or is it just me?

 

[Delta6326]

Yes line of site internet. Was technet w7 ultimate then w8 pro upgrade that $15 one.

 

[Kursah]

I had one of them activations, but I was a release-day W10 convert so I did the upgrade-then-fresh install route with my main rig (It was Win 7 Pro to w8 Pro upgrade using student discounts). I don't have any upgraded keys...you might actually try your Win 7 Pro key from that upgrade if you still have it.

LoS sucks, but when you have no other options or can't afford the several grand or more for remote satellite, it's better than nothing. Air Fiber is getting better though...hopefully you'll have more options in the near future.

@FordGT90Concept That's an interesting issue, that does not occur. One thing I've liked about 10 is that it seems to handle multiple displays quickly and flawlessly. I'd be checking Event Viewer for possible driver crashes. You using the latest Crimson driver? You using both cards in your system each dedicated to a screen? How's your configuration? Does your system lockup and reboot or just reboot?

 

[FordGT90Concept]

@FordGT90Concept That's an interesting issue, that does not occur. One thing I've liked about 10 is that it seems to handle multiple displays quickly and flawlessly. I'd be checking Event Viewer for possible driver crashes. You using the latest Crimson driver? You using both cards in your system each dedicated to a screen? How's your configuration? Does your system lockup and reboot or just reboot?

The only error that is popping up frequently is combase.dll. I doubt it is related though...probably has more to do with my broken Edge browser. The issue predates Edge breaking.

I'm using 16.1 beta.

Each card drives one monitor:
R9 390 -> DVI -> KVM -> DVI -> T240
R7 360 -> VGA -> KVM -> VGA -> 906BW

I always switch to my computer before booting. It exhibits the same behavior regardless if it is switched to it or not.

I shutdown every night. It goes back to "Show only on 1" every morning. I switch it back to "Extend these displays" and it works fine until the next day.

 

[Kursah]

Interesting... what if you temporarily remove the 360 and run both displays off of the 390 or even vice-versa?

Has this issue plagued you since going to 10? Before 10? Or only after you'd been on 10 a while? And it seems to occur pretty consistently to your actions...is the KVM the type that you hit scroll lock or a key combo to switch or does it come with a remote button to swap inputs? I have seen some KVM's cause some issues because of how the outputs are detected... I've honestly had better luck with newer IOGear KVM's than older ones in W7/8/10, S2008/2012, R2, etc.

 

[Delta6326]

OK tried my key again it says
: Error installing product key
Error code: 0xc004e016

Also says
Error code: 0xc004c003
The activation server determined the specified product key has been blocked

Don't know why that would be.

Also getting you have been denied permission to access this folder
: to gain access to this folder you will need to use the security tab.
Trying to copy over my pictures from my external hard drive. I just put them on 3 days ago from my old system.

Happened to 8 folders of pic, and any loose ones in my main picture folder


Edit tried: didn't work
Right-click on the folder which you’re unable to access and select Properties.

b)Click on ‘Security’ tab and under ‘Group or user names’ click on ‘Edit’.

c)Click on ‘Add’ and type ‘everyone’.

d)Click on ‘Check names’ and then click ‘OK’.

e)Select ‘everyone’ and under ‘Allow’ select‘Full control’ and click on ‘Apply’ and Click ‘Ok

Get: failed to enumerate objects in the container. Access is denied.

Here is what i have tried

Spoiler: Step by step

Here is what happens. I can now get access to folder but not files.

 

[Ithanul]

Thanks for explaining it and that's what I assumed the issues would be. I could definitely see drivers being another problem. Especially with older systems.

I don't mean to get to off topic but can I ask why you stopped doing IT? I would like to go school to get into this type of work. That's why im curios.

If you interested in IT, best to start early and get experience. Though depending on some jobs, they like you to have certain certs or be working toward certs.
But experience is the biggest thing they want. Reason I'm in the Guard since this allows me to get experience managing servers and client computers.

Reason I have Sec+ atm and working toward getting a CCNA Network and Windows 7 cert atm. Plan to get certs in Linux, Virtual Machines, and Servers.

But yeah, you just don't want someone willy nilly updating their OS or applying updates themselves. Can cause all shorts of issues. Reason best thing to do is lock them with Active Directory and use Group Policy to control accounts.

But Microsoft has straight up stated 10 is a service. That right there got me eyeing it hard and waiting to see how things go.
I can test and try 10 out since I have access to Dreamspark. Deciding to do so since I can try to learn to manage one through Group Policies etc.

 

[Ithanul]

Here is what i have tried

Spoiler: Step by step

Here is what happens. I can now get access to folder but not files.

Hmmm, have you check the permissions on each file? Could try to xcopy the files through cmd.

Ooops, sorry for double post.

 

[Delta6326]

Hmmm, have you check the permissions on each file? Could try to xcopy the files through cmd.

Ooops, sorry for double post.

Perfect timing I just tried those steps again and worked. I tested on this file

Any way to speed this process up? I have all files very detailed folder inside folder inside folders for dates, and specific topics I'm ocd like that


Each file is like this it only let's me change the security per file that will take hours to change thousands of pictures.

 

[Ithanul]

Perfect timing I just tried those steps again and worked. I tested on this file

Any way to speed this process up? I have all files very detailed folder inside folder inside folders for dates, and specific topics I'm ocd like that

Highlight all files, right click. This should allow you to edit all permissions on all the files.

I had a guess that was your issue. NTFS can be funky like that.

Edit: Hmmm, ok that don't work. Give me a minute I can find something for ya.

Alright, when you changed permission on the folder. Did you go into advance?
There is a setting that will allow the permission of the folder to be applied to its child objects inside it.

Here pic, Windows 7 though. But gives you a idea.