NVIDIA App v1.0

[bug]

It's slow,

Compared to what? Are you changing your video settings shortly before having to catch a bus?

the UI doesn't scale well with high DPI displays (or anything past HD resolution, period),

Looks fine on my 4k 32".

and it looks outdated.

Because these tools are all about looks. Right?

Here's one for you: it works.

 

[_roman_]

Thanks for the review.

Omg. That User Interface looks so outdated and old.

Making a new user interface to sell to the user the fake Frames. (call it dlss and whatever it'S named)

AMD's Adrenaline software, a nice modern interface that contains all driver functions,

Which was or is buggy on my Radeon 6600 XT / 6800 Non XT / 7800XT. Some bugs I saw quite fast as one of the early birds of a Radeon 6600XT with Windows 10 Pro. Before that I only used Nvidia cards or ATI or matrox cards.

bugs do not get fixed. -> The software does not contain all driver functions.
Recently my box needs several times a reboot to work properly with Windows 11 Pro 24H2 and a Powercolor Radeon 7800XT hellhound.

I do use the bug symbol quite frequently and send off those bug reports to amd for their amd gpu software for windows.

 

[Ferrum Master]

I hoping for updated slimmer and cmd commands to properly remove it.

Living on Linux, I kinda don't miss any of the "features" it could give. Either game launcher or game itself should provide you your desired features... without bling, overhead, or whatever service that does whatever what. Just some command at launching exe.

 

[rv8000]

The performance tab is still an utter joke. If AMD can provide a tuning panel to the degree they have in their software, THE “software” company should be able to provide something comparable.

Disappointing to say the least…

 

[Vya Domus]

Nivida finally at least trying to move out of the stone age.

 

[Ferrum Master]

The performance tab is still an utter joke. If AMD can provide a tuning panel to the degree they have in their software, THE “software” company should be able to provide something comparable.

Disappointing to say the least…

Are you telling that having a cancer named rivatuner is like breathing air and norm for nvidia user is not normal?

 

[Legacy-ZA]

I moved from my RTX3070Ti to my GTX1650, but oh boy, am I the only one seeing extremely high DPC latencies? :O

 

[thevoiceofreason]

Still have to use afterburner for curve undervolting ...

 

[Hankieroseman]

I'm going to take it out and play with it on my GTX1650(Little Boy) before Big Daddy(RTX3090) & Fat Mama(RTX4090) get the business.

 

[Prima.Vera]

Nothing beats Nvidia Inspector for the detailed driver customization and settings. There is still nothing better than that small app currently.

 

[EatingDirt]

I don't get this point of view, especially since it wrongly assumes the modern interface contains all necessary functions.
The control panels are tools. I don't look at them for entertainment. I don't really care if an old hammer looks old if it still does what it needs to do. If I had an iHammer which looked nicer but had something wrong with it like it required a subscription to use I'd favor the ancient hammer over the shiny one

The Nvidia app is supposed to replace all necessary functions that the CP currently contains. It's the correct assumption.

Your analogy on Control Panels is flawed. A Toolbox is a better analogy.

Right now, Nvidia CP is like the an old toolbox that has no compartments, it's just filled with stuff that has been acquired over the years. You know where everything is, but it takes a minute to sift through all the crap to get to it.

This new app(when it has all CP functions) is like a professional toolbox. The compartments are intentional, fast, and easy to get to. Looking for everything to do with the Display settings? Open one drawer and you have your Displays, Resolution, Refresh Rate & Gsync, etc. Looking for specific game options? You have a drawer for that too.

 

[bitsandboots]

@mrpaco
Literally from the article:
“When asked about the legacy control panel, NVIDIA responsed that "Control Panel will continue to be a separate app as we continue to port features" but also that the App will "eventually" replace it.”

It's weird that although this is the right approach, Microsoft doing exactly this has made me skeptic because Microsoft has taken 12 years to get rid of Control Panel and they still aren't done.

 

[phints]

I had hoped Nvidia App would fully replace NVCP and GFE with this, but nope, we ended up with a 3rd app. Here is to hoping they keep adding features like undervolting and eventually it's one polished and speedy app for everything.

I'll leave the other two not installed and keep using NVCP.

 

[ObscureAngelPT]

Well, this is an improvement over what we had in the Geforce Experience.

Altough I don't really like the way it is implemented in the background, I mean, needing to run an instance of Chromium to show stuff, it's a damn webapp, it consumes much more resources than it should, which is disappointing. Also, having techpowerup recommending that it should have had an explorer to edit videos and reencode and edit, I mean, why more bloat?

I do like the options, but I do think they could have gone with 3 different approaches.
#1 The current approach to replace effectavilyy geforce experience users.
#2 a more slimmer approach with much less settings like nvidia control panel on Linux, just the basic settings.
#3 an approach where it's possible to not use the geforce app (maybe that's an option to not use it atm, I haven't tried it yet)

 

[Sora]

Interesting to see grumpy old men be mad at a much needed update to the interface

change for the sake of change childen should be disregarded and ignored.

It's slow, the UI doesn't scale well with high DPI displays (or anything past HD resolution, period), and it looks outdated.

The slowness is Microsofts fault, theres a bit of com piping between the driver service and the nvcp that is just 10-15x higher latency on 10/11 compared to the same version of the executable on Windows 7 and 8.
This same latency behavior is demonstrated in MMC snapins like event viewer.

I moved from my RTX3070Ti to my GTX1650, but oh boy, am I the only one seeing extremely high DPC latencies? :O

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That tool causes DPC latency spikes, it shouldn't be used and a DPC trace is prefferable instead.

 

[Scircura]

I'm sure when W1zzard updates NVCleanstall to support the NVIDIA App, it will improve those hidden toggles in the installation dialogs. And, fingers crossed, find a way to delete the marketing carousel.

 

[_roman_]

Living on Linux, I kinda don't miss any of the "features" it could give.

I think we should stick to nvidia cards and windows.

I think its off topic mentioning the linux kernel with userspace. Gnu linux does not support any features on graphic cards which i usually see in windows 11 pro. I'm only talking about nvidia and amd cards.

I had a Nvidia 960 GTX 4GB for several months in 2023. Both windows and gnu linux have awful driver experience. I wanted to see myself the current supported gpu generation and the current windows and gnu linux drivers myself. Windows had some re-initialisation issue. Everytime a kernel is build, I had to rebuild the nvidia drivers. Same as with the 9800 GTS from my ASUS G70SG or 660m GTX from my ASUS G75VW. No fan control. No voltage control. Similar as two years before 2023 when I sold my ASUS G75VW gaming laptop. At least I did not had to manually patch the linux kernel like i had to with the 9800 gts for several years.

The radeon cards like 6600XT / 6800 non XT / 7800XT do not need a module rebuild. But lack also features like fan control, voltage control and other features. Did not work with the 6800 non xt or my 7800XT.
It's impossible to set the Powercolor 7800XT hellhound fans to 30%. Several users discussed this topic on another forum for several months. (same user name - you will find the topic)
To make it clear - it was also not possible with the 960 GTX in 2023.

 

[Upgrayedd]

Does the monitoring stuff have an in-game OSD? Also is there any fan curve adjustments?

Opening a mini browser to modify driver settings is objectionable but I don't have an issue with their attempt to merge NVCP and GFE. I will continue to use NVIDIA Inspector for deep game profile tweaks.

I haven't used Inspector in ages. Not since Nvidia added an fps limiter to nvcp. Do you use it for modern games? What exactly do you use it for?
I used to use it when I had SLI, went to single card and then only used it for frame limiting that I can remember.

 

[Arctucas]

Personally, I dropped them when they forced me to have an account just to do drivers autoupdate.

Not to leave behind, when they decided to add telemetry drivers with the package, without your consent or even explaining what they were collecting.

Just block it from connecting to the internet.

It's slow, the UI doesn't scale well with high DPI displays (or anything past HD resolution, period), and it looks outdated.

Who cares? It is a tool used for one or two minutes, and then forgotten about.

 

[BSim500]

Interesting to see grumpy old men be mad at a much needed update to the interface. Nvidia Control Panel's interface is basically straight out of Windows 95, and it runs just about as well as software from 95 as well. I too am often a grumpy old man, but as someone that's experienced AMD's Adrenaline software, a nice modern interface that contains all driver functions, this new app sure looks a lot better than Nvidia CP, once it has all the functions of CP.

Maybe the "grumpy old men" (ie, constructive criticism) people are waiting for it to be finished first before declaring it the Second Coming of driver software? If it's missing curve undervolting / benchmark overlay, then you still need MSI AB. If it's missing a lot of 3D Settings in the control panel, then you'll still need to use that Control Panel anyway for older games. If it's using Chromium Embedded Framework then it'll almost certainly bloat itself out over time no different to how half the "500MB RAM and 6-12x processes just to tell you the weather" CEF apps out there end up. Personally, I'll wait until it's actually finished first with 1:1 feature parity before passing judgement...

 

[Hakker]

Control app is more than enough for me. Seriously why use all that crap when all you do is update driver and once every 3 months maybe change a setting.

 

[JohH]

Dread the day they discontinue the old/current control panel.

 

[Event Horizon]

I haven't used Inspector in ages. Not since Nvidia added an fps limiter to nvcp. Do you use it for modern games? What exactly do you use it for?
I used to use it when I had SLI, went to single card and then only used it for frame limiting that I can remember.

I mainly Inspector for older games but it is still useful for modern games. You can force enable gsync compatibility, resizable bar, set a LOD bias for DLSS games. I also find it faster than NVCP and it has all the game profile options that the new NVIDIA App is missing.

 

[mxthunder]

I remember what a pain GFE was back when I was forced to use it to stream to their shield tablets. Once they killed that, i basically never use it, except once in a while for screen cap.
Give me the base driver install, and afterburner and im good to go.

 

[lexluthermiester]

This is a hard pass. I have no interest in automatic driver updates or automatic game profiles. Also not OK with the fact that it runs on Chrome(CEF, whatever). This is a fail for NVidia. No fricken thank you.

@ NVidia
FFS, stop with all the useless fluff and nonsense! Just make solid drivers and a stable, fine-grained control panel that does NOT need the internet. Seriously..