NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6 GB

[CounterSpell]

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.....yes direct x 12 will soon be all the thing but for now...how many x12 games do we have that people want? All this .....this is the future thing reminds me of something else Amd did for the "future" that was obsolete by the time the actual "future" got here.(there may still be a patch!!!!) By the time X 12 titles are common both companies will have newer architectures out. Both companies take different paths to the same end.....(gsync / freesync) I remember the same argument for Amd's advantage over Nvdia in gpu mining too. We all see the relevance of that now. When its time (something new/different always popping up) Nvdia will have an answer(maybe a patch ). ....Oh yeah a rant won't be a rant without a car analogy....hybrid and electric cars are and will be the future....but as for now.......

finally someone reasonable here

 

[Fluffmeister]

Man that's a lot of performance out of such a little chip, and it sips power too!

Impressive stuff!

 

[dlgh7]

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.....yes direct x 12 will soon be all the thing but for now...how many x12 games do we have that people want? All this .....this is the future thing reminds me of something else Amd did for the "future" that was obsolete by the time the actual "future" got here.(there may still be a patch!!!!) By the time X 12 titles are common both companies will have newer architectures out. Both companies take different paths to the same end.....(gsync / freesync) I remember the same argument for Amd's advantage over Nvdia in gpu mining too. We all see the relevance of that now. When its time (something new/different always popping up) Nvdia will have an answer(maybe a patch ). ....Oh yeah a rant won't be a rant without a car analogy....hybrid and electric cars are and will be the future....but as for now.......

even though Nvidia was better than AMD the previous generation I believe they still showed better in DX12. It appears to be a hardware issue for DX12.

To me when purchasing something it is not just important what it can do now but what it can do in the future. Windows is clearly pushing away from all previous versions of DX, which makes sense because it enables more for less power if utilized correctly. So for $200-$300 which card will last longer? It seems like to me an 8GB RX480 could last longer or be useful even in an upgrade situation for a secondary gaming pc than a GTX 1060 might. Not only that but you can't SLI a 1060 but can crossfire a RX480. So if budget allowed you could upgrade later to a second RX480.

To me I just don't see the 1060 being as useful long term. I say that as an Nvidia user who's primary GPU at the moment is an Asus Strix GTX 970.

 

[PerfectWave]

as for now tesla is an electric car that goes as fast as 260 km/h XD

 

[xkm1948]

Just noticed another thing:

All AMD cards except RX480 used Crimson 16.4.2 Beta

Isn't that a bit outdated driver for AMD? Nvidia cards got three separate driver treatments: one for 1070/1080, one for 1060 and one for everything else.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

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.....yes direct x 12 will soon be all the thing but for now...how many x12 games do we have that people want? All this .....this is the future thing reminds me of something else Amd did for the "future" that was obsolete by the time the actual "future" got here.(there may still be a patch!!!!) By the time X 12 titles are common both companies will have newer architectures out. Both companies take different paths to the same end.....(gsync / freesync) I remember the same argument for Amd's advantage over Nvdia in gpu mining too. We all see the relevance of that now. When its time (something new/different always popping up) Nvdia will have an answer(maybe a patch ). ....Oh yeah a rant won't be a rant without a car analogy....hybrid and electric cars are and will be the future....but as for now.......

So do you think this card will also work with the latest tv trend Vesa varysync ,and might you have some clue why nvidia fitted the latest high end video output standards without actually bothering to certify them at that level , or maybe your up to speed with their lossy compression tech.
You do like tesselation I bet ,something you might not had heard of if Amd hadn't rocked that boat years in advance.
This is a good card for a good majority of gamers no doubt but nvidia are having eyes out v build cost yet again , more for less yet again , and yet again they are clocking the snot out of it.
Personally I wish POWER Vrwould have a go at a big Gpu with raytracing ,it would likely be shit or average on crisis but some New shit might get made by Devs instead of the yearly rubbish we get , just my opinion obv.
And Amd got 2xRx480 sale here JUST because of their compute efficiency for a retail card and I'm not alone.

 

[jabbadap]

FE is definitely the new "reference". I've not seen a single GTX 1080/1070 at the lower price yet, they're all around FE levels.

Well EVGA shop has most of gtx1080 lower than FE, and they go on/out off stock quite instant.

1070 $ "379 mrsp" is crap, I think atleast in Europe AIB:s are trying to sell gtx980tis at the same time...

1060 is well at least now close to nvidia's mrsp from many manufacturers(279€ european mrsp), so hope is $249 is really that(FEs are only sold from nvidia webshop anyway). Though can't really help thinking that who will buy these cards, gtx970 was ~300€ from the beginning and this or RX 480 won't be much cheaper or higher performance. If it would replaced gtx 960 or R9-380@199€ then it would have been instant buy, but now we got ~gtx970 performance with ~gtx970 price.

 

[HD64G]

As for the hype prior to 1060 launch and reviews: Where is the +15% on the 480 some leaks from nVidia showed?

 

[the54thvoid]

Just noticed another thing:

All AMD cards except RX480 used Crimson 16.4.2 Beta

Isn't that a bit outdated driver for AMD? Nvidia cards got three separate driver treatments: one for 1070/1080, one for 1060 and one for everything else.

Why don't you PM @W1zzard and ask him privately what his secret agenda is? Instead of laying out the standard conspiracy crap that TPU is a shadowy Nvidia biased organisation. You do know as well as that AMD also have review guides for reviewers to follow? As for the guide - not that much amiss and also - doesn't tally up with TPU game selection - TPU has some off, some on.

Drivers? I'm on 368.81 - so TPU has used older Nvidia drivers too... OMFG. What is your point?

 

[jabbadap]

Just noticed another thing:

All AMD cards except RX480 used Crimson 16.4.2 Beta

Isn't that a bit outdated driver for AMD? Nvidia cards got three separate driver treatments: one for 1070/1080, one for 1060 and one for everything else.

Same question on every tpus graphics card review, when new card comes out ...

W1zzard rebench all the games with all the reference cards he posses(well not all but recent anyway), you can't except he doing it for every freaking graphics card review. And new games will/might be added and some removed when he will rebench all the cards again next time.

 

[ensabrenoir]

even though Nvidia was better than AMD the previous generation I believe they still showed better in DX12. It appears to be a hardware issue for DX12.

To me when purchasing something it is not just important what it can do now but what it can do in the future. Windows is clearly pushing away from all previous versions of DX, which makes sense because it enables more for less power if utilized correctly. So for $200-$300 which card will last longer? It seems like to me an 8GB RX480 could last longer or be useful even in an upgrade situation for a secondary gaming pc than a GTX 1060 might. Not only that but you can't SLI a 1060 but can crossfire a RX480. So if budget allowed you could upgrade later to a second RX480.

To me I just don't see the 1060 being as useful long term. I say that as an Nvidia user who's primary GPU at the moment is an Asus Strix GTX 970.

Nvdia is truely an evil genius. I wonder how much of this card was a long term plan and how much was a cut down response to Amd's price point. Either way ...I still believe their making a sizable profit. With dev support and d.X12 you can still sli(through the pcie lanes) these cards in MDA mode. Which....if nvdia did'nt restrict it would put these card in or potentially above 1080's territory. There is a reason why nvdia aint directly following Amd path in asynchronous computing. Probably as usual they got their own thing cooking. In America, on new egg( in my weekly email) you see these cards at $249.99 and up...of course all sold out by now. Gpu longevity? We need to do a poll...how long do you keep a gpu..... I typically sell and upgrade/ side grade/ trade/im bored today so im all over the place.

 

[CounterSpell]

I wonder how much of this card was a long term plan and how much was a cut down response to Amd's price point. Either way ...I still believe their making a sizable profit.

wel... thats capitalism...

 

[W1zzard]

W1zzard rebench all the games with all the reference cards he posses(well not all but recent anyway), you can't except he doing it for every freaking graphics card review. And new games will/might be added and some removed when he will rebench all the cards again next time.

that. I would love to do a full rebench but there is so many cards to review right now I can't find two weeks to stop reviewing

 

[dlgh7]

Nvdia is truely an evil genius. I wonder how much of this card was a long term plan and how much was a cut down response to Amd's price point. Either way ...I still believe their making a sizable profit. With dev support and d.X12 you can still sli(through the pcie lanes) these cards in MDA mode. Which....if nvdia did'nt restrict it would put these card in or potentially above 1080's territory. There is a reason why nvdia aint directly following Amd path in asynchronous computing. Probably as usual they got their own thing cooking. In America, on new egg( in my weekly email) you see these cards at $249.99 and up...of course all sold out by now. Gpu longevity? We need to do a poll...how long do you keep a gpu..... I typically sell and upgrade/ side grade/ trade/im bored today so im all over the place.

I used to upgrade my pc more often. I have found though that as I have gotten older and don't have as much time to game that it doesn't pay to upgrade unless I really need to. Thinking I will probably skip this generation of GPU's at this point and jump with the next release mainly because of the VRAM on the GTX 970 only being 4GB and I want to upgrade to a 34" 3440x1440 ultrawide and really am looking to upgrade once we can get a more consistent ultrawide over 60hz that is a hair bit cheaper than what we have available at the moment. Plus most of them still have a bit to much corner light bleeding for my liking as I have a smaller model and have seen a bunch of the other ones in person. Most of my games I play don't really need that powerful of a GPU but it is definitely nice to have the horsepower when needed. Plus I am kind of curious to see what ZEN can do for AMD and see if it would be worth considering switching platforms. I am skeptical but I like competition and like seeing what others are doing. AMD has been pretty stagnant so eager to see them more competitive in CPU and GPU arenas as not only does it give us more choices but can drive down prices or spark innovation.

 

[Thuban]

Wizz,

If you compare the reference 1060/1070/1080 versus custom boards. They seem to come with different desktop (i.e. idle) clocks.

e.g.

Ref 1060
Desktop 139 MHz 203 MHz 0.625 V

MSI 1060
Desktop 253 MHz 101 MHz 0.625 V

Same with 1070/1080.

e.g.

Ref 1080
Desktop 139 MHz 101 MHz 0.625 V

Asus 1080
Desktop 329 MHz 101 MHz 0.625 V

Maxwell wasn't like that.

Ref 980 ti
Desktop 135 MHz 203 MHz 0.86 V

MSI 980 ti
Desktop 135 MHz 203 MHz 0.875 V

Exactly the same ^. What's up with Pascal, in your opinion?

 

[efikkan]

The BS about the "Founders edition" being the price comparison needs to end. Everyone can see there are cards available at MSRP as promised.

 

[QuintoBlanco]

Extra power consumption? What so you can save a quarter every year?

Frankly the only time power consumption has ever mattered is the 480 vs 5870. It was not worth DOUBLE the power usage for only 20% more performance.


Otherwise there is no reason to care.

Less power means the potential for less heat and less noise. And more choice when it comes to choosing a PSU.

Not important for everybody, but important to me. A small GTX 1060 is going to be great in my secondary gaming system, which is going to be small and low noise. And quite a few people have put GTX 750 and 950 in systems with a modest PSU, unless the PSU is really under powered, the GTX 1060 is going to be a major upgrade.

 

[SpAwNtoHell]

Another very valid point. 4GB is quite enough... 3GB wouldn't be though.

pretty true but... with a mention not in every game are a few out that go over the 6gb vram usage at 1080p in my case was rise of tomb rider... i gived this example as i tested myself.... so seems vram gets used more lately...

 

[sergionography]

Solid card but very unfair comparison in my opinion, i hate how its being compared to the rx480 when its price bracket is a whole different class on its own. 200-229usd rx480 vs 249-299usd 1060?

 

[ShurikN]

Solid card but very unfair comparison in my opinion, i hate how its being compared to the rx480 when its price bracket is a whole different class on its own. 200-229usd rx480 vs 249-299usd 1060?

Good luck finding those 480s for $200

 

[yogurt_21]

Solid card but very unfair comparison in my opinion, i hate how its being compared to the rx480 when its price bracket is a whole different class on its own. 200-229usd rx480 vs 249-299usd 1060?

there's like 4 current gen cards that have been released. They are comparing the most relevant. AMD decided to keep the Fury X as their highend and focus on efficiency. That leaves quite a bit of room between comparisons

On the mid end you have the 480 vs the 1060 which while different in pricing are only 7% apart in performance then you hit the 1070 and 1080 which are ~20-40% faster than the Fury X. This is as fair as we can be for current gen comparisons.

at any rate price/perf aren't AMD's issue with the 480. Its the power/heat arena that the 1060 is really beating it at.

 

[sanadanosa]

The custom cards price is actually higher than the founder edition here in Indonesia.
I think the founder edition marketing scheme is a big failure.

 

[xorbe]

The custom card prices actually higher than the founder edition here in Indonesia.
I think the founder edition marketing scheme is a big failure.

Pretty sure nv sees that as a huge success lol ...

 

[Fluffmeister]

Pretty sure nv sees that as a huge success lol ...

The 1060 is no doubt cheaper to manufacturer too, double whammy of pain right there.

 

[ViperXTR]

Solid card but very unfair comparison in my opinion, i hate how its being compared to the rx480 when its price bracket is a whole different class on its own. 200-229usd rx480 vs 249-299usd 1060?

Sadly, i cannot find a 200USD RX 480 here, every RX 480 here in our region now is close and beyond 300 USD, and ironically the newly landed GTX 1060 by Zotac (AMP!) costs just the same as the RX 480 (reference cooler) this invalidates the price/perf ratio in my region, now im afraid to imagine what the custom RX 480s here would cost, specially ASUS and MSI brands since they are usually the most expensive here