NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3 GB

[Fluffmeister]

max payne 3. turn on all eye candy.... requires alot even my crossfired 7950 cant....

talking about the hbao and ssao... dont know the difference and function

this is at 1600p

GTX 770 4GB vs 2GB showdown, benches run at 1920×1080, 2560×1600 and 5760×1080:

http://alienbabeltech.com/main/gtx-770-4gb-vs-2gb-tested/3/

There is one last thing to note with Max Payne 3: It would not normally allow one to set 4xAA at 5760×1080 with any 2GB card as it claims to require 2750MB. However, when we replaced the 4GB GTX 770 with the 2GB version, the game allowed the setting. And there were no slowdowns, stuttering, nor any performance differences that we could find between the two GTX 770s.

Can't help but think people blow VRAM requirements out of proportion all the time.

 

[arterius2]

This is getting stupid (in a good way).

Here is your call AMD, where is the R290X GHz Edition that comes with a superior cooling solution?! You're losing again! (Already..)

I bet we see a R290X GHz within the next 3 months, and it will cost $629.99... lol

considering the power envelope already, I don't think a Ghz Edition is viable.

you simply cannot ship a factory default card already stressed to the absolute max.

 

[Eroticus]

This is getting stupid (in a good way).

Here is your call AMD, where is the R290X GHz Edition that comes with a superior cooling solution?! You're losing again! (Already..)

I bet we see a R290X GHz within the next 3 months, and it will cost $629.99... lol

Sorry bro .. AMD is not nVidia ...

you get that price down only bcuz AMD are good guys !

without AMD your fan boys still bought titan for 1k$ and maybe ever higher.


1,000 USD Demo version ... joke of the year edition.

 

[The Von Matrices]

Out of curiosity, is AMD's high power consumption for the same level of performance related to GCN or something else?

I ask because I'm wondering if Mantle is actually going to hurt AMD in the future. It's obvious that NVidia's Kepler architecture is more power efficient than GCN at the same performance level. Announcing Mantle has essentially forced AMD to retain CGN for the foreseeable future, and if the high power consumption is something inherent to GCN, then AMD is stuck with it for a half a decade or longer.

 

[Eroticus]

Out of curiosity, is AMD's high power consumption for the same level of performance related to GCN or something else?

I ask because I'm wondering if Mantle is actually going to hurt AMD in the future. It's obvious that NVidia's Kepler architecture is more power efficient than GCN at the same performance level. Announcing Mantle has essentially forced AMD to retain CGN for the foreseeable future, and if the high power consumption is something inherent to GCN, then AMD is stuck with it for a half a decade or longer.

Speaking the guy with 1250wat power supply and 2 7970 ... turn off 1 and be GREEN ! + (3 Monitors LMAO )

Hahaha god please .... most funny to hear about energy saving from the guy like you.

 

[The Von Matrices]

Speaking the guy with 1250wat power supply and 2 7970 ... turn off 1 and be GREEN !

I used to have 3 7970s to mine Bitcoin, and I did sell one when it was no longer profitable. That's where the 1250W power supply comes from. And as far as turning one of the two off, I already do when I play games because the as of yet unresolved stuttering produces no useful frames from the second card.

Energy consumption for saving electricity is not the concern here, it's reducing the heat generated and the noise required to remove that heat. Just because I have a system that consumes a lot of electricity doesn't mean that efficiency improvements are worthless. The particular thorn in AMD's side is the multi-monitor power consumption. I could consume 50W less at idle if I had an NVidia card.

Back to the original question, can AMD really improve its efficiency while still retaining GCN?

 

[Eroticus]

I used to have 3 7970s to mine Bitcoin, and I did sell one when it was no longer profitable. That's where the 1250W power supply comes from. And as far as turning one of the two off, I already do when I play games because the as of yet unresolved stuttering produces no useful frames from the second card.

Energy consumption for saving electricity is not the concern here, it's reducing the heat generated and the noise required to remove that heat. Just because I have a system that consumes a lot of electricity doesn't mean that efficiency improvements are worthless. The particular thorn in AMD's side is the multi-monitor power consumption. I could consume 50W less at idle if I had an NVidia card.

Back to the original question, can AMD really improve its efficiency while still retaining GCN?

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-r9-290-review-benchmark,3659-19.html

The card isn't nosily and heat is not high to .

+ 50 wat doesn't change anything ...

Same story was 7k and 5k series when they lunched with stock cooler.

we all know that AMD the only 1 good cooler was on 7990 ... and i didn't know why they didn't saved it for new series ,better to pay 50~100$ more but this will come with 7990 cooling system.

 

[Casecutter]

Back to the original question, can AMD really improve its efficiency while still retaining GCN?

That’s' a good thought and this might or might not affect the answer... I would say on a 20Nm process the chip could look better perf/watt, I thought I heard transistor density advantage power a performance. Advantage might not be the best word.

 

[the54thvoid]

Speaking the guy with 1250wat power supply and 2 7970 ... turn off 1 and be GREEN ! + (3 Monitors LMAO )

Hahaha god please .... most funny to hear about energy saving from the guy like you.

Ignorance is bliss, isn't it. Having an "x" watt power supply is meaningless for your argument. The efficiency is the relevant factor. A 1200watt PSU will only pull what the system requires. An inefficient supply will draw more than the system requires.

As for your other posts, you are revealing yourself to be a bit of a cave dweller with a tendency for pseudo abusive posting. How about you give it a rest and try to be constructive?

 

[The Von Matrices]

That’s' a good thought and this might or might not affect the answer... I would say on a 20Nm process the chip could look better perf/watt, I thought I heard transistor density advantage power a performance. Advantage might not be the best word.

You have a point. It seems that GCN is more efficient in performance/transistor, but Kepler is more efficient at performance/power. I still wonder how much AMD can change GCN to improve it while still maintaining compatibility with the Mantle codepaths of games. At a high level it seems like they can only change large scale features like number of shaders or ROP but the underlying architecture is fixed.

Then again, maybe CGN will turn out like x86 where there is a core set of instructions that never change and new instructions continuously get added. If those newer instructions are used, efficiency improves while compatibility is maintained for older games that use older instructions. Of course, x86 is a good example of becoming a huge burden for very low level programming with the thousands of instructions available (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86_instruction_listings).

 

[Amrael]

People this is basic economics and marketing at its most extreme. First off, AMD's monster R9's were tested and released with the shoddy cooler so that after market vendors would get a big chunk of the action. For example the card heats up like a freaking toaster then what do we do? We buy after market cooling, AMD already made a profit on the reference design and they will continue to sell those amazing gpu's (for those who actually saw the performance without throttling like Toms hardware review of the R9 290+Accelero extreme III) no matter what. Now After market vendors (Sapphire, Msi, Asus, XFX etc...) will release their own version with better cooling so they will also sell lots of them and on and on ad infinitum.

Nvidia just unlocked the full potential of Kepler and in essence crippled Titan halfway. I don't think a 780ti 6GB version is coming because there is that small "insignificant" thing that makes people buy Titans and water blocks, because they want those 6GB of ram. While those of us who want to get ahead and don't have the means end up with 780's with elpida memory which is what's gonna happen when people start receiving their retail versions of the 780ti. Reviewers and the media get those Hynix, Samsung memory equipped, golden sample Gpu toting samples and we get the ones with mediocre asic GPU's and elpida memory. They won' t get to where most review samples get and we'll end up with basically the same GTX 780 with a bump in the core clock. And after a few weeks the after market crew comes in with Winforce 3, Lightning, Classified, Direc Cu II-III etc...) and it will sell again. People I urge you to pick the card of your choice and stick by it, you paid for it enjoy it; go play.

In the end to actually enjoy gaming (and no 4K, its still too immature) I don't think anyone needs more than a single GTX 770 or a 7970 (aka R9 280x) but if you need more then fine just aim for whats more convenient for you because I have seen to many weird variations on the reviews I've read the past few weeks and I've tested myself with my own Nvidia and AMD Gpu's to know that something fishy is going on. The monster 780 Ti is maybe 700 3dmarks (Firestrike non extreme) away from my overclocked GTX 780 Classified and yet in games the Ti even overclocked doesn't overtake me more that a couple of frames (from 2-5) so I have no reason just like most of you to upgrade, its just hype wait for it and the best products will be available soon, those reference cards won't be kings much longer. Anyway I repeat; go play and let the companies sort themselves, after awhile coma back and buy whichever pleases you the most.

 

[tuklap]

Worth the Money??

Any compute performance?? if its not that good, probably better to go with r9 290

 

[radrok]

Could we stop please talking about racism, countries and all things not related to graphics cards?

Just please, please.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

Any compute performance?? if its not that good, probably better to go with r9 290

When does compute matter in games?

 

[radrok]

When does compute matter in games?

Only when it's relevant in making an argument, like 4K for performance.

 

[Wittermark]

Only when it's relevant in making an argument, like 4K for performance.

Go easy on him, its his first post.

I guess AMD must be pretty desperate over there now to be sending them en-mass

 

[ViperXTR]

So when is the Black edition coming out? :O

 

[Amrael]

So when is the Black edition coming out? :O

GTX Titan Ti Black 12GB, so you can play at the movie theater screen at 30FPS overclocked

 

[radrok]

^^^

I honestly don't know what kind of use 6GB would have on a card like this, I could fill up 6GB pretty easy on Octane Renderer for 3DSMax but as I said before I couldn't fill it up while gaming unless playing Skyrim (which I still don't know if it was being used or JUST allocated, big difference).

Seems like CUDA performance is gimped too, so Titan still holds in its segment.

Will have to give it a try when I get my hands on one of these, until then the CUDA part remains a mystery for me but I find it hard they left it functional.

 

[Amrael]

Has anyone tried to put a normal GTX 780 and a Ti in mismatch Sli?

 

[HammerON]

It strikes me that some of you clearly do not know how to:

1. Debate or disagree with any degree of finesse or maturity.
2. Be open minded enough to argue a good honest and unbiased case without clouded fanboyist minds
3. In some cases, show common decency to your fellow community members.

Really? Damn my grandaughter would put one or two of you to shame and she is 6! Only once have I ever found it appropriate to wade into a thread and hand out multiple infractions and oddly enough that was over a graphics card comparison but let me make one thing clear, if some of you cannot disagree without flaming and insults there will be a 2nd time and it's coming soon.

On a more cheerful note... I will crawl back into my armchair and stop the rant!

Re-post for those that missed it...

 

[Tonduluboy]

just wondering how many people willing to change their current card with this $700 card. That a lot of money, that is ALMOST 3 months of my monthly car payment!

 

[radrok]

Has anyone tried to put a normal GTX 780 and a Ti in mismatch Sli?

It's nVidia we are talking about, I'm almost 99.9% sure it won't work.

 

[Rowsol]

GTX 770 4GB vs 2GB showdown, benches run at 1920×1080, 2560×1600 and 5760×1080:

http://alienbabeltech.com/main/gtx-770-4gb-vs-2gb-tested/3/



Can't help but think people blow VRAM requirements out of proportion all the time.

Those are some nice charts.

 

[Fourstaff]

Those are some nice charts.

There is a need to chart Skyrim HD textures at 2Gb and 4Gb though, and I can't find it.