NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti Founders Edition Pictured

[medi01]

What you say, for me, seems more of a random or spontaneous behavior which I think it isn't. It was planned and companies know about it and they plan releases.
The cards are not available for me. Ebay, amazon or any other such websites are not considered selling sites by legit retailers/etailers NV or AMD products only. Most cards being sold there are from private people who got the card and resell it to get a profit.

Cards have barely started to go on sale.
Remind me the last time you could easily buy something like that in mere weeks after sales started?

Where can I get my PS5 or XSeX please?
Was it any different with PS4?

 

[ratirt]

Cards have barely started to go on sale.
Remind me the last time you could easily buy something like that in mere weeks after sales started?

Where can I get my PS5 or XSeX please?
Was it any different with PS4?

Just because that is the situation doesn't mean it is not being done on purpose.
Tell me one thing, has ps2 ever had that issue? I know it didn't and ps2 is the best selling console ever. Over 155 million items sold but aside that.
Comparing to PS3 or PS4 or Xbox 360 etc. You know what's the difference between all the consoles (fairly modern) vs ps2?
All those PS3's PS5's xbox1's Xbox360's etc. where release mid November while ps2 in March. So if you put this into account and think of the financial aspect of fiscal year, this situation does draw some conclusions. At least that's what I take out of it.

 

[Fourstaff]

How can there be Xbox shortage , PlayStation shortage, AMD GPU shortage, AMD CPU shortage and now this?

They have no be fixing this like RAM shortage in the past to increased the profits.

Everyone is stuck at home, TSMC can only make so many chips.

 

[bencrutz]

So one wafer can cost x and the next same wafer can cost more, am I seeing this right?

nope, same cost. the price depends on volume and node, but you pay for that agreed volume of wafer on that agreed node. designer don't order enough wafer as on the agreement, they pay some money as compensation to the foundry. foundry cannot deliver the volume promised, designer get compensation. shitty yields, designer get compensation - though there are some kind of waiver: if the designer make a chip against the guidelines from foundry and got shitty yields, basically foundry said you f*cked up, not my fault, not my problem, no compensation. well WSA is complicated.

 

[medi01]

Tell me one thing, has ps2 ever had that issue?

I don't know. I know that pretty much any anticipated product sold in millions had this issue. at least starting 2000, I don't know how it went with PS2.

All those PS3's PS5's xbox1's Xbox360's etc. where release mid November while ps2 in March.

Switch was released in March, again, shortages in the first weeks.

 

[PowerPC]

nope, same cost. the price depends on volume and node, but you pay for that agreed volume of wafer on that agreed node. designer don't order enough wafer as on the agreement, they pay some money as compensation to the foundry. foundry cannot deliver the volume promised, designer get compensation. shitty yields, designer get compensation - though there are some kind of waiver: if the designer make a chip against the guidelines from foundry and got shitty yields, basically foundry said you f*cked up, not my fault, not my problem, no compensation. well WSA is complicated.

I still see ways here to increase the price from order to order. The compensation money can be increased for not ordering enough. Couldn't it just rise astronomically if it gets harder to create these wafers or even just because more demand, in general, comes in?

 

[Bubble99]

Everyone is stuck at home, TSMC can only make so many chips.

So the problem is AMD design the CPU and get TSMC to make it. The same with AMD design the GPU and get TSMC to make it.

Why can’t AMD manufacturer it?

 

[Fourstaff]

So the problem is AMD design the CPU and get TSMC to make it. The same with AMD design the GPU and get TSMC to make it.

Why can’t AMD manufacturer it?

They tried, they failed. That's why Global Foundries exist - it was spun off from AMD.

 

[bencrutz]

I still see ways here to increase the price from order to order. The compensation money can be increased for not ordering enough. Couldn't it just rise astronomically if it gets harder to create these wafers or even just because more demand, in general, comes in?

well, price hike is plausible .
but AMD (or any large designer) bought wafer capacity in a large sum, i suspect it won't get any price adjustment anytime soon: they still have plenty quota.
Zen IOD still fabbed in GF, part of the reason was AMD still have the 'obligation' to fab at GF, else they will need to pay GF for compensation due to WSA. imagine how large the contract was.

So the problem is AMD design the CPU and get TSMC to make it. The same with AMD design the GPU and get TSMC to make it.

Why can’t AMD manufacturer it?

they used to fab at their own foundry at dresden, real men have fabs LOL