NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti Founders Edition

[Mistral]

Seems like an excellent mainstream card.
So, the average person will be able to buy one some time next year?

 

[usiname]

Can I ask what happen with the performance/watt chart? 6800 was way better than 1660 ti and now is on same level.

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[RandallFlagg]

... so Nvidia is delivering? Where? How? At what prices?

Pretty much every major OEM is shipping systems with 3070, 3080, and some with 3090. Nvidia is at least supplying the OEMs, and they are clearly opting to sell entire systems to capitalize on the populatirity. AMD is apparently has nothing to sell, as not even OEMs have 6800/6800XT and most don't have Zen 3 either.

There are literally pages of them on Amazon and most you can get by the end of this week.

Try doing this same search for 6800 or 6800XT :

Dell Alienware options :

 

[Lycanwolfen]

PS5 not, but Series X can. It's a shame, because this card costs a bit less than getting a whole gaming system that can play games on that same level. X is around the same 2080 level performance.

LOL a MS lover. Oh I bet I know which new game will come out for it another Halo. When I have to fix Microsoft crap all day long of all the issues they create I will never buy a single xbox.

 

[Hyderz]

RTX 3070 (sweating profusely) *waves at RTX 3060ti

 

[mechtech]

Nice review W1zz.

A few questions/comments.

"NVIDIA is positioning the GeForce RTX 3060 Ti Founders Edition at $399, which is an extremely competitive price. At that price point, it offers price/performance comparable to the GTX 1660 Super, which has the best price/performance ratio of all NVIDIA offerings. "

I'm assuming that was supposed to be 2080 Super?

2nd
For relative performance, were older cards such as the Radeon RX480, etc., tested on the i9-9900K test bed for apples to apples comparison?

Thanks

 

[Chrispy_]

$399 for something approaching a 2080S. Ampere offers theoretical improvements in performance/$ across the whole range.

Except $399 is a fabrication for the next 4 months at least. Scalpers, miners, high-demand, and low supply mean that you're still probably going to be paying $600 for them. When you look at the performance and performance/Watt of the 2070 Super, it's not that different and the 2070S is a $500 card from 18 months ago.

 

[Raendor]

LOL a MS lover. Oh I bet I know which new game will come out for it another Halo. When I have to fix Microsoft crap all day long of all the issues they create I will never buy a single xbox.

A good product lover. I had a lot of consoles (PS2, PS3, PS4, PSP, X360, GBA, GBC, Switch and Series X now) in addition to PC so it's ridiculous to read nonsense comment like yours. X is a great machine (certainly more attractive than ps5 for me, which I won't even consider until slim comes out at least) and it easily beats 3060ti/3070/6800 from a simple value proposition to power it offers. But you surely must be one of those sony fanboys salivating on mostly mediocre "exclusives" if anything MS-related causes such a twist in your brain.

 

[W1zzard]

Can I ask what happen with the performance/watt chart?

I switched to Metro 1440p for high-performance cards, to reduce CPU bottleneck, especially on AMD, who have more driver overhead, and thus more susceptible to this.

I'm assuming that was supposed to be 2080 Super?

Look at perf/$ chart, best NV card is 1660 Super there

For relative performance, were older cards such as the Radeon RX480, etc., tested on the i9-9900K test bed for apples to apples comparison?

Of course. Every rebench I spend like two weeks testing all these cards back-to-back

 

[mechtech]

I switched to Metro 1440p for high-performance cards, to reduce CPU bottleneck, especially on AMD, who have more driver overhead, and thus more susceptible to this.


Look at perf/$ chart, best NV card is 1660 Super there


Of course. Every rebench I spend like two weeks testing all these cards back-to-back

Thanks - I was looking at wrong chart.

Is it possible to add the older cards to the game benchmarks for easy comparison?

 

[W1zzard]

Is it possible to add the older cards to the game benchmarks for easy comparison?

I make the cut at 75% and 125%, or the charts will become too busy. some important SKUs like 2060/2060S are included because same "60" number

 

[Tatty_Two]

Pretty impressed TBH, almost identical power consumption at peak gaming as my 2060 Super but with 28% more performance at my res.

 

[hardcore_gamer]

My PS5 can do 4k better now.

At 30fps, yes.

 

[okbuddy]

the real price is $699

 

[Sybaris_Caesar]

I didn't check the Ray Tracing section of TPU's reviews before today but my god it's confusing af. My eye and my brain both were hurting. And it's just two games at three resolution. What will happen when more RT games are added.

 

[ODOGG26]

Edit


3070 beats 6800 on perf per dollar, when looking at msrp pricing but 6800 is priced several hundred dollars above it's 580 msrp and nowhere in sight because of no stock, making it an even worse deal (halo product for now). Several retailers already said that AMD stock won't become normal before deep into 2021, this includes upcoming 6700 series too

So.. Easy win for Nvidia - Going Samsung 8nm paid off it seems, AMD can't deliver chips because TSMC 7nm is overused at this point

Same point you made about stock normalising in 2021 is same thing said about NVIDIA. So what is your point?

 

[ShurikN]

Seems like an excellent mainstream card.
So, the average person will be able to buy one some time next year?

$400 isn't really mainstream.

 

[r9]

Is there a specific time when these go on sale tomorrow ?

 

[nguyen]

$399 for something approaching a 2080S. Ampere offers theoretical improvements in performance/$ across the whole range.

Except $399 is a fabrication for the next 4 months at least. Scalpers, miners, high-demand, and low supply mean that you're still probably going to be paying $600 for them. When you look at the performance and performance/Watt of the 2070 Super, it's not that different and the 2070S is a $500 card from 18 months ago.

Better to compare 3070 to 2070S and 3060Ti to 2060S no ?

 

[squallheart]

$399 for something approaching a 2080S. Ampere offers theoretical improvements in performance/$ across the whole range.

Except $399 is a fabrication for the next 4 months at least. Scalpers, miners, high-demand, and low supply mean that you're still probably going to be paying $600 for them. When you look at the performance and performance/Watt of the 2070 Super, it's not that different and the 2070S is a $500 card from 18 months ago.

It's faster than the 2080S, approaching is not the right word here.

The 3070Ti has roughly 25% improvement in performance/watt over the 2070S. Not that different? I don't understand how you can make a statement like that when objective there is right there.

 

[W1zzard]

Is there a specific time when these go on sale tomorrow ?

From what I understand 6:00 a.m. PT, 3:00 p.m. CET, 2:00 p.m. UK

I didn't check the Ray Tracing section of TPU's reviews before today but my god it's confusing af. My eye and my brain both were hurting. And it's just two games at three resolution. What will happen when more RT games are added.

Yeah, it's a lot of data, I'll think of a better presentation for the 2021 reviews

 

[Sithaer]

the real price is $699

Where I live and the limited places where I can see the price listed its between 600-700$ so yea. 'Its also being sold on the ~local second hand market already'

Funny it was mentioned in the review that its a better deal than a 5600 XT if you can buy it for 400, yea not happening anytime soon/if ever.

Other than that the card itself is pretty solid imo.

 

[Ja.KooLit]

So glad I sold my 2080S

 

[birdie]

A great card except:

• Ridiculously overpriced and people are seemingly not concerned at all. Like really? The GTX 970 launch price was $330!
• In power efficiency it doesn't beat Turning 16XX cards which is ... what? How? I was under the impression that modern GPUs/CPUs can power gate pretty much any part of the chip which means for games lacking RTRT/DLSS Ampere cards must have been a lot more power efficient than previous generation cards.
• Why are we still trailing previous generation cards in terms of the bang for the buck? Is it also the new norm?

This is not a replacement for the wildly successful GTX 1060 6GB. Hopefully NVIDIA will release the RTX 3060 at $299 or lower.

@W1zzard I know you're absolutely busy with reviews but please start testing NVIDIA cards with a power limit applied, e.g. at 90%, 80% and 70%. NVIDIA has OC'ed the cards to the absolute limit this generation and by doing so, they've made them not as power as efficient as the node actually allows.

 

[SIGSEGV]

another milking card.