NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Pictured?

[Caring1]

This design is essentially what Sapphire has been doing for ages with its cards where the cooler is longer than the PCB.
...except that the second fan is on the reverse side of the card, exhausting air from the heatsink. I seriously doubt NVIDIA's approach has any advantages over what Sapphire did with the above card.

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The fan on the top of the card, where the RTX 3080 name is, blows down through the grille, it's not an exhaust as the fan blade design dictates direction and flow.

 

[efikkan]

If legit, less VRAM than an RTX 2080 Ti with similar specs. Performance should be around RTX 2080 Ti, too.

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NIVIDIA's RTX 3080 Getting Spec Upgrade? Might Ship With GA 102-200 And 4352 CUDA Cores

Specifications of NVIDIA's RTX series appear to be pretty hazy right now with everything from GA104 to GA102 being a possible suspect for this particular iteration. One of the most reliable leakers (for this series) has just posted that they believe the RTX 3080 will actually ship with a...

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That's a very bold prediction. Do you know the performance of the Ampere architecture and the clock speeds it will be running?
And BTW, more VRAM doesn't necessarily yield more performance. More VRAM allows you to run with higher details.

I would be more worried about memory bandwidth. Are there faster than 18 Gb/s GDDR6 yet?

 

[cucker tarlson]

That's a very bold prediction. Do you know the performance of the Ampere architecture and the clock speeds it will be running?
And BTW, more VRAM doesn't necessarily yield more performance. More VRAM allows you to run with higher details.

I would be more worried about memory bandwidth. Are there faster than 18 Gb/s GDDR6 yet?

a 102 die that goes from 5370 to 4350 ? we ever had a big die sku with 20% disabled ? they don't even do this much on 104s.

 

[nguyen]

Looks like 7nm yield hasn't reached maturity parity with 12nm that Nvidia decide to use the GA 102 die for 3 SKUs (Titan, 3090 and 3080) while TU 102 is only used for Titan RTX and 2080Ti.
Let just hope there are enough functioning cores for 3090 and Titan...
Also hope the new PCB design wont delay waterblock release...

 

[efikkan]

a 102 die that goes from 5370 to 4350 ? we ever had a big die sku with 20% disabled ? they don't even do this much on 104s.

We have seen similar things, like TU104s sold as RTX 2060 (KO) etc., but it's rare.
Since we have so many conflicting rumors about these specs, at most one of them can be true, possibly none of them, so I'm not going to assume any of them are true until we have something more substantive.

But anyway, in my opinion the best reason for using a "GA102" as "RTX 3080" would be to achieve extra memory bandwidth.

 

[EarthDog]

Damn thats fugly...come onnnnn board partners!

That die and VRAM layout looks unrealistically close to the display outputs. There would be no room for the circuitry necessary to make the outputs work unless they're doing something different

FTFY.

That said, I dont think it's too close at all...

Let's hope this is relatively slow and Navi 21 completely obliterates it.

Where do you get your stuff at? Me want!

 

[cucker tarlson]

We have seen similar things, like TU104s sold as RTX 2060 (KO) etc., but it's rare.
Since we have so many conflicting rumors about these specs, at most one of them can be true, possibly none of them, so I'm not going to assume any of them are true until we have something more substantive.

But anyway, in my opinion the best reason for using a "GA102" as "RTX 3080" would be to achieve extra memory bandwidth.

turing already achieved really good results with 8gb
at 4K 2070s seems to hold its own against 11gb 1080Ti

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[Decryptor009]

how can you tell performance ?
new 80s always beat old 80Ti's with less cuda.sometimes by a lot when there's a new node.1080 > 980Ti by 25%

25% is nothing, back to Fermi, GTX 480 was ridiculously faster, 5870 was roughly on par with 2 4870's too.

 

[cucker tarlson]

25% is nothing, back to Fermi, GTX 480 was ridiculously faster, 5870 was roughly on par with 2 4870's too.

cause it was a bigger die on a smaller node,nothing magical.30% bigger.
they're not gonna make a 1000mm2 gpu now
and apples to apples,1080Ti at 470mm2 was almost 70% faster than 600mm2 980Ti.

Damn thats fugly...come onnnnn board partners!

FTFY.

That said, I dont think it's too close at all...

Where do you get your stuff at? Me want!

ugly or not,their constant progress with reference coolers drives the prices of aib coolers down.
let's hope amd don't embarass themselves with that friggin blower again.
I'll prolly go with trio again.great on 1080Ti,even better on 2070S.

 

[ARF]

25% is nothing, back to Fermi, GTX 480 was ridiculously faster, 5870 was roughly on par with 2 4870's too.

It's very weird why AMD did what they did with Navi 1st generation.
Why no Big Navi and why not competing with Vega 64/ Vega 64 derivatives in the below Big Navi segments.

They had a 256 mm2 HD 4870 but back then they had a card with 70-80% higher performance.

Now they have nothing.

And if the rumours are true, the smaller Navi 2X chips won't be out before 2021.

 

[cucker tarlson]

It's very weird why AMD did what they did with Navi 1st generation.
Why no Big Navi and why not competing with Vega 64/ Vega 64 derivatives in the below Big Navi segments.

They had a 256 mm2 HD 4870 but back then they had a card with 70-80% higher performance.

Now they have nothing.

And if the rumours are true, the smaller Navi 2X chips won't be out before 2021.

you enjoy rumors,don't you ?

 

[Valantar]

It's from some "guy on the internets" so I wouldn't read too much into it.
That said, I don't think it's too hard to make a V shaped VRM layout.

Not talking about the VRM, just all the other stuff that needs to go between the die and the I/O.

 

[nguyen]

It's very weird why AMD did what they did with Navi 1st generation.
Why no Big Navi and why not competing with Vega 64/ Vega 64 derivatives in the below Big Navi segments.

They had a 256 mm2 HD 4870 but back then they had a card with 70-80% higher performance.

Now they have nothing.

And if the rumours are true, the smaller Navi 2X chips won't be out before 2021.

Easy answer, yield for 7nm was terrible (5600XT-5700-5700XT all use navi 10 die), it's still terrible now for bigger die, plus their CPU designs are winning against Intel, why waste precious 7nm fab when they know their high end GPU would never sell as well as Nvidia.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Not talking about the VRM, just all the other stuff that needs to go between the die and the I/O.

It's actually not all that much that goes there these days.
I see something that looks like a couple of chokes and what might be some signal amplifiers between the GPU and the I/O, the rest looks pretty empty to me.

EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 Super KO Review

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The reference 2080 has a few more bits there, but not much. I guess that's due to the USB-C port.

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[Valantar]

It's actually not all that much that goes there these days.
I see something that looks like a couple of chokes and what might be some signal amplifiers between the GPU and the I/O, the rest looks pretty empty to me.

EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 Super KO Review

The EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 Super KO is a highly cost-efficient custom-design variant. This dual-slot, dual-fan card comes in at $499, so there is no price increase over NVIDIA MSRP. EVGA's cooler is solid, achieving good temperatures, and idle fan-stop is included, too.

www.techpowerup.com

The reference 2080 has a few more bits there, but not much. I guess that's due to the USB-C port.

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Founders Edition 8 GB Review

It was very bold of NVIDIA to debut its flagship implementation of the Turing architecture right next to the RTX 2080, poised to be the poster-boy of this architecture. This card packs the promise of real-time ray tracing, of sorts. NVIDIA also put out its best cooler design since TITAN. All...

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Yeah, that's a lot less stuff than I'm used to seeing in that area. Guess that solves that problem, even if fitting the power delivery and other circuitry for the VirtualLink would still be an issue I guess that could be squeezed in below the VRAM.

 

[cueman]

erhh, when ampere are tested no1 took big navi, or any amd gpus,rtx 3060 is enough and when and if radeon viii aka big navi coming, and if it coming, same thing ,belive it...or not.

fact are, amd use still 7nm process tech without any new arch or updates and top on that hill is ,still 7nm radeon vii gpu, rx 5700 xt little brother is same gpu core with less tmus and rops but clocks maxed what is possible when hardware gadgets taken off.

so only way to get more power radeon vii(i)/big navi is put it inside more tmus and rops...thats all...but if so, except tdp 400W and watercool what i say that if happends ,its 7th wonder for 7nm gpu.
finally, lisa Su says 'we have big navi,sure, nice to ask it,yes its coming..' this she says only few month ago...i mean time,capice. so its it is radeon vii(i).


ampere leaps are process tech from 12nm to 7nm and new core arch and new cudas innovation cuda 3... any1 need more facts?

stop dream and stop took big navi.. its coming or not,but 7nm ampere coming 100%....just waiting and see.

my opinion is that desktop gpus max tdp should be 200W. if over 100-200 $ tax on it,different is science and other industrial kind using gpus.


naah,, lets joy summer and wait interesting autum with 7nm nvidia ampere (1st 7nm!), 10nm intel cpu (1st under 14nm cpu!), intel 7nm gpu (1st!) and amd erhh, ok, big navi.

 

[Dante Uchiha]

It seems that the cooling system is optimized for SLI ? Anyway, I think it's pretty ugly compared to the 2XXX FE model.

 

[SL2]

the 3XXX FE model

Do you have a pic?

 

[Dante Uchiha]

Do you have a pic?

Sorry. I just noticed the confusion, I meant 2XXX. XD

 

[dyonoctis]

But now I wonder how the 3060 cooler is going to look like. The pcb is already really short on that 3080, I don't see how they can shave 4 cm of that...

 

[ARF]

Easy answer, yield for 7nm was terrible (5600XT-5700-5700XT all use navi 10 die), it's still terrible now for bigger die, plus their CPU designs are winning against Intel, why waste precious 7nm fab when they know their high end GPU would never sell as well as Nvidia.

7nm yields have been great https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cp...uVrfanB-mziRJSJIldcTrB7PwAXx0u2oXyxo9K8BhtICY

5nm yields are even greater https://www.anandtech.com/show/15219/early-tsmc-5nm-test-chip-yields-80-hvm-coming-in-h1-2020

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AMD has been on a red hot streak lately and it looks like it can't get anything wrong. If this report from China Times is to be believed (and this is usually a reliable source) then TSMC's 5nm testing is going very well and the first 3 customers have already been locked in - including AMD...

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Big Navi wouldn't have used too much capacity, it would have been enthusiast level with lower quantity of sales.

 

[nguyen]

7nm yields have been great https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cp...uVrfanB-mziRJSJIldcTrB7PwAXx0u2oXyxo9K8BhtICY

5nm yields are even greater https://www.anandtech.com/show/15219/early-tsmc-5nm-test-chip-yields-80-hvm-coming-in-h1-2020

AMD 'Zen 4' 5nm Products Will Launch In 2021, 5nm Yield Has Already Crossed 7nm

AMD has been on a red hot streak lately and it looks like it can't get anything wrong. If this report from China Times is to be believed (and this is usually a reliable source) then TSMC's 5nm testing is going very well and the first 3 customers have already been locked in - including AMD...

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Big Navi wouldn't have used too much capacity, it would have been enthusiast level with lower quantity of sales.

Zen 2 die are only 70mm2 vs Navi 10 251mm2. If you only get 70% yield with a 70mm2 chip, imagine the yield at 500mm2.

 

[ARF]

Zen 2 die are only 70mm2 vs Navi 10 251mm2. If you only get 70% yield with a 70mm2 chip, imagine the yield at 500mm2.

The costs are normally transferred to the consumers, anyways.
Halo products like Big Navi are very important in order to show to the consumers that the company can in reality make cutting-edge products, not just entry-level and mid-range. Halo is important to keep a recognisable brand reputation and awareness.

Also, it'd have very positive effect on the overall competitiveness and pricing structure. RX 5700 and RX 5700 XT were launched too expensive.

AMD should have launched the Navi 10 with proper voltage at 150-watt, and then build the product stack up and down as the wish.
Instead, there is just super duper expensive Navi 10 cards with crazy overclocks reaching staggering 250-300-watt TDP.


Competition but real one in order to keep the prices in check.

 

[Divide Overflow]

So, they are 3D printing hype trains now.

 

[SL2]

Seems like the front exhaust will feed the rear fan with hot air. If the fans were on the same side then I guess the heat from the front exhaust would go directly to the CPU area..