NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Founders Edition

[outpt]

just wait it out. do dome dumpster diving. might as well get that amd 5950x i want and could stand a new monitor. time to try something new instead of the same old shit,gaming,.

 

[NotHereMan]

A console can to a decent degree replace a modern gaming computer though.

Agreed. Consoles are perfectly adequate for the mainstream. Nowadays the differences between gaming a on PC vs console has become quite minimal. In terms of graphics quality and performance, going PC to game just means you have disposable income.

 

[N3M3515]

5-10% performance increase over 3080 with >50% MSRP increase. Good job Nvidia.. good job.

Editor's choice!! rofl....

 

[Deleted member 177333]

hah. Ya...a couple of the newer games I looked at, the 3080 Ti only netted ~14-15fps more than a 2080 Ti in 4k (Valhalla & CP)...and they want $1200, which it won't even be available for (likely more like $2000-2500 on ebay), and doesn't even have a waterblock. Like the 2080 Ti...I'll wait for 2nd or 3rd hand market for the pricing to be more appropriate for its performance. Pricing today is just crazy for this stuff. I'm happy to continue buying used gear.

 

[evernessince]

Editor's choice!! rofl....

Exactly my thoughts. This is by far the worst xx80 Ti ever released by Nvidia. 7% average performance gain over the 3080, higher power consumption than both the 3080 and 3090, and a $1,200 price tag. To boot it's got 12GB of VRAM, half that of the 3090.

 

[W1zzard]

Why is everybody so concerned with NVIDIA's MSRP? It's just a meaningless number. They probably didn't want to lower the x80 Ti MSRP compared to 2080 Ti, so they picked 1200, to not look bad when they announce 4080 Ti.

You will not be able to buy the 3080 Ti at that price, probably ever. As much as that sucks for all of us, that's what will happen. Look at what the card offers, compared to what's available at what price and make a decision based on that? I tried to go through some options and examples in my conclusion.

 

[RedelZaVedno]

Why is everybody so concerned with NVIDIA's MSRP? It's just a meaningless number.

It's not meaningless in the long run... just look at the direction MSRP prices are headed: GTX 680 = $499 / 780TI =$699 / 980TI = $649 / 1080TI = $699 / 2080TI = $999 / 3080TI =$1.199... 240% price hike in 9 years (18% inflation in this period). Elevated MSRPs are here to stay even after mining graze ends. DIY PC building is becoming prohibitively expensive for more and more PC builders, especially considering todays console pricing and performance. I know A LOT of ppl, long term PC gamers/DIY PC builders who said that they'll just opt for office PC + a console (when they become available).

 

[W1zzard]

Elevated MSRPs are here to stay even after mining graze ends.

It's supply and demand, people just need to stop buying stuff for prices to go down. For a recent example, look at Intel CPU prices

 

[N3M3515]

Definitely not editor's choice....

"we're going to apologize in advance for wasting your time and ours with this one......"

"pump the market with more midrange cards that people are trying to get their hands on rather than coming out with more highend cards that people already couldn't afford even if prices weren't screwed up to begin with....."

"Rich people only please....."

"The 3080 ti is just a card i would not recommend, for 7 to 10% over the 3080 for a 70% increase in price, it just sounds absolutely ludicrous, saying that outloud this is just not a good use of money when it comes to buy a gaming gpu...."

 

[N3M3515]

"I also have to wonder if nvidia strategy here was to release a card like the rtx 3090, which is so stupidly overpriced that it makes everything underneath and even expensive cards like the 3080Ti look like a "better deal"......"

"A relative small amount of extra performance for a whole lot more money, i'd say that if every gpu out there could be bought, i think it's fair to say that amd would still be in the game with the 6900XT...."

"The conclusion i've come to is.....buy the 3080...."

"This is just a stupid launch...."

 

[Chrispy_]

@W1zzard
Do all of the 3080Ti cards you're tearing down and reviewing feel like new cards, or do you recognise them as rebrands where partners have just changed the vBIOS and filled in the two missing memory locations omitted in the 3080? Many of the cards I'm seeing look identical to the 3080 models we saw reviewed last year, but that's to be expected as partners will re-use coolers and backplates more often than not.

 

[Cr4zy]

https://tpucdn.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-founders-edition/images/power-vsync.png

I think the data is a little off in this image? Atleast this graph seems to indicate it is atleast.

https://tpucdn.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-founders-edition/images/power-consumption.png

 

[N3M3515]

people just need to stop buying stuff for prices to go down

Then why don't you advise that instead of giving it a freaking editor's choice bro?? it's misleading.

 

[W1zzard]

I think the data is a little off in this image? Atleast this graph seems to indicate it is atleast.

Yup, fixed now

Youtubers

So our YouTube friends are saying that this is obviously such a terrible product that nobody will buy it tomorrow?

 

[X71200]

So our YouTube friends are saying that this is obviously such a terrible product that nobody will buy it tomorrow?

It's a terrible product as far as price to performance is concerned and you know it. Telling people to "not buy cards" also seems like a genius mentality of yours to drop down prices. People with more money than brains buying scalper material doesn't make your point more worthy. You're frankly coming up with some absurd thoughts. You talked about "what the card offers at which price level", and we can lead you to those Newegg pre-builts where you get a FULL PC with a 3070 or above at that kind of price level.

 

[Solid State Soul ( SSS )]

Agreed. Consoles are perfectly adequate for the mainstream. Nowadays the differences between gaming a on PC vs console has become quite minimal. In terms of graphics quality and performance, going PC to game just means you have disposable income.

Yeah, many new console games have either quality 4K 30fps or performance 1440P 60fps modes to please everyone, and with PC prices increases year after year ( disregarding scalpers ) its hard to justify spending that much.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
I will not be waiting in line anywhere for a 3080ti
I wouldn't personally buy a nvidia fe card seeing the temps are always worse but even the likes of evga/ .... I won't be buying any of those either at the performance level and price.
Sad, doubt 40 series will be any better guess it's time to get back into cars and get an ipad lol

 

[KainXS]

Its a meh card pretty much and just really shows the times right now. Nvidia simply is not even trying and neither is AMD because they know their products will all sell out anyway. As for price performance, every card right now is terrible for that and if you can you should probably just keep what if at all possible. Current market is something I have never seen before, sell sell sell, unless its an intel CPU.

Also is the cyberpunk ray tracing section right for AMD cards.

 

[N3M3515]

Yup, fixed now


So our YouTube friends are saying that this is obviously such a terrible product that nobody will buy it tomorrow?

So you think everybody is going to buy it tomorrow because it's an excellent product, an editor's choice?

 

[W1zzard]

So you think everybody is going to buy tomorrow because it's an excellent product, an editor's choice?

At current market conditions and $1200 it definitely is. and it will sell out tomorrow. Will be interesting to see at which price it ends up on eBay with LHR, and from there on it's supply and demand mechanics again.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love for hardware to be cheaper. At the most basic level it would also mean more $$ in my pocket, because more people come to TPU. We have no content to offer for console gamers, so if PCMR goes down, so do we and I'll have to start programming boring databases at some large corp.

 

[Solid State Soul ( SSS )]

Pascal was the last great generation from nvidia the 1060 offered unbelievable value for 1080p gaming, the 1070 gave you 980ti performance at 50% less power, the 1080 was great for 1440p, and lastly how can you forget the 1080ti, a card so good, it blew the industry away with its capabilities and armed with 11gb of gddr5x.

ever since rtx 2000 series nvidia made no real improvements in performance and power efficiency, just focusing on raytracing and DLSS, rtx 3000 is even worse, abysmal power efficiency( up to 500w on rtx 3090!!!!), lackluster VRAM ( aside from 3060 and 3090), overheating gddr6x memory, no stock, and pointless SKUs like the this 3080ti,... wtf is going on at nvidia ??!!!

just when high resolution high refreshrate gaming started to becomes a reallity for everyone nvidia went full L since rtx 2000 series, no one wants ray tracing, we want 4k 144fps gaming, look how rtx 3060 promises rtx 2060 Super performance at 170watts, the 2060 super gave you gtx 1080 performance at 190watts, the gtx 1080 was 180watts gpu !!! NO REAL POWER EFFICIENCY IMPROVEMENTS SINCE 2016 !!!! AND THEY CHARGE YOU MORE

 

[N3M3515]

At current market conditions and $1200 it definitely is. and it will sell out tomorrow. Will be interesting to see at which price it ends up on eBay with LHR, and from there on it's supply and demand mechanics again.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love for hardware to be cheaper. At the most basic level it would also mean more $$ in my pocket, because more people come to TPU. We have no content to offer for console gamers, so if PCMR goes down, so do we and I'll have to start programming boring databases at some large corp.

Respectfully W1zz, the reason people are going to buy this gpu tomorrow is because despite being a terrible value, there is nothing else, also mining, scalping, etc. But not because it's an excellent value.

 

[W1zzard]

Respectfully W1zz, the reason people are going to buy this gpu tomorrow is because despite being a terrible value, there is nothing else, also mining, scalping, etc. But not because it's an excellent value.

Of course, if there was stock of other cards at MSRP or below, 3080 Ti at $1200 would be terrible value. But that's not the case

 

[X71200]

At current market conditions and $1200 it definitely is. and it will sell out tomorrow. Will be interesting to see at which price it ends up on eBay with LHR, and from there on it's supply and demand mechanics again.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love for hardware to be cheaper. At the most basic level it would also mean more $$ in my pocket, because more people come to TPU. We have no content to offer for console gamers, so if PCMR goes down, so do we and I'll have to start programming boring databases at some large corp.

It'll sell out tomorrow because scalpers and miners have a shitload of money reserved for stuff like this.

PC isn't going down anytime soon, as it has far more uses than a console. For your saying "PCMR" for PC, I'd like to not touch that sentiment but can't hold myself here. What are we, 12?

 

[ThrashZone]

So you think everybody is going to buy it tomorrow because it's an excellent product, an editor's choice?

Hi,
I wouldn't focus so much on the editors choice bit and read the entire conclusion instead, all is covered there.