NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 Founders Edition

[Krit]

Did any review peak at Far Cry 6 benchmarks?

This one is cpu limited even with weaker gpus.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

On the Overclocking page - it doesn't list the percentage gained? Is this the 1st card to achieve this omission

It's 6% which is more than I expected... W1z probably just forgot to list the %

 

[Legacy-ZA]

@W1zzard

I don't suppose you feel in the mood to test this card in a Air Cooled CPU system with an M.2 drive situated above the GPU backplate? Say, a 990 Pro from Samsung? And report the temperatures back on the CPU / M.2 drive?

Would be appreciated, though, perhaps an odd request, but should be informative for those that run our systems that way.

 

[Redwoodz]

I'd like to see the comparison between 4080S WITH DLSS4. I see no real need for this as a gaming gpu. DLSS4 has made this card kind of irrelevant except for e-peen.

 

[Selaya]

Is it really? The card is completely stuck to the throttle point ceiling and the driver keeps it in check, while VRAM is running at 93C. Not sure this is a great show for a 2000 dollar card. I mean sure, its cool they crammed it into a 2 slotter, but that's really all it wrote.

Overall I'm unimpressed given the immense shader count, the power target and the product performance as a whole. Its a bigger 4090 that isn't bigger. Well yay. It just underlines nothing was gained between Ada and Blackwell for gaming. Its just shaders > performance. It is exactly as my pessimist self predicted: there is nothing here but a bigger 4090 and the gap between it and the 5080 is there so they can just spin the 4090 for a longer time. Zero advances in anything that's worthy of note, really.

you're not wrong. the cooler design was about the only exciting part of the launch, and realistically steve spoilered that well a week in advance already so ...

 

[lexluthermiester]

Impressive but also not.

Yeah. It can't be earth-shattering without some kind of breakthrough in IC substrate design/chemistry. Still, it's impressive and a very healthy jump in performance.

Drawing 600W in real life use???

Yeah, that is a very real problem.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

@W1zzard

I don't suppose you feel in the mood to test this card in a Air Cooled CPU system with an M.2 drive situated above the GPU backplate? Say, a 990 Pro from Samsung? And report the temperatures back on the CPU / M.2 drive?

Would be appreciated, though, perhaps an odd request, but should be informative for those that run our systems that way.

While I think anyone spending 2000+ on a gpu will figure out how to make this work I do expect it to be a new challenge one has to consider.

 

[harm9963]

Well as a 4090 owner , $1699.99 retail for a ZOTAC AMP EXTREME AIRO at Micro Center in person , when I went from a 1080Ti to 40 series , got max bangs for my bucks ! those days are gone , comes down to bragging rights , I can warm up to DLSSQ more and more , and FG , which brings up , can't wait to test newer versions , Lossless Scaling 3.0 can do 4x or more , what's funny is Nvidia open a can of worms ,comparing 5070 to 4090 , using x4 Lossless Scaling , in 2077 , I can use DLAA for the first time and looks great standing still

2077 has the new DLSS4 ,Transformer works with my 4090 , now with DLAA and TFG !

 

[Gucky]

I am disappointed. I had hoped the powerusage would be less, like with the 4090, despite having 575W, but so far it looks like every 1% performance is bought with 1-1,5% more power.
I wanted to buy the 5090, but not anymore.
To use it I would need a new PSU and an air conditioner..

I will go with a 5080FE instead. Especially since it uses the same cooler, which is impressive for the size.

Well as a 4090 owner , $1699.99 retail for a ZOTAC AMP EXTREME AIRO at Micro Center in person

I bought my 4090FE at release for 1949€ and sold it last november for 1750€. THAT is a good deal.
With a 5080 I will still have money left over... which I will save up for a 6090...

BTW I don't think, the 5090 will age that well...

 

[xorbe]

This one [FC6] is cpu limited even with weaker gpus.

Thanks, Krit!

 

[Taisho]

As expected, it costs a fortune and only a small increase over the 4090 even at 4K, I doubt anyone will use it lower but you never know I guess. Also draws nearly 600w...

We're hitting silicon wall and games are being optimized for consoles which have way less power, for me RT is a nothing burger and don't even start on image quality destroying upscaling...

Probably doesn't bode well for the lower down cards either given they have much smaller uplifts in hardware by comparison.

This release feels good for anyone with the 4000 series. The 3000 series was impressive for an inferior node, the 4000 series was impressive for a cutting-edge node. The 5000 is just a 4000+.

@W1zzard The memory OC limit is working as intended for product positioning. With GDDR6 or GDDR6X the OC gains were too marginal and had too big side effects to be compelling. GDDR7 is a completely different story. NVidia won't accept you getting so much memory improvement without paying extra. Not that they need to offer it with non-existent competition. It's better to save for later because the node density improvements in the coming years don't look promising.

 

[Steevo]

I'm probably in the minority but I'd rather hit 300 fps locked at 1440p than be locked into using 4k without upscaling to not be cpu limited lol.

I ran the numbers from the average gaming frame rate to get a "cost" if you will per pixel compared to 1080 as the baseline, the 5090 is using more CPU but is providing 17% more pixels for that given cost at 4K compared to what the 4090 can do.

 

[Assimilator]

I keep harping on about the wall that silicon lithography has hit and people keep ignoring me, and then do surprised Pikachu faces when there is no efficiency gain generation-on-generation. Because efficiency, by and large, comes from the node size and that isn't getting appreciably smaller. If y'all are crying this hard about lack of generational performance uplift now, you're gonna be drowning in your tears for a long time, because there ain't any good solutions in sight in the next half-decade at best. Physics is a harsh mistress.

 

[vlad.coolish]

 

[Wasteland]

Pros:

• Neat cooler design
• DLSS upscaling improvements

Cons:

• Power Consumption

Ambivalents:

• Everything else

Appreciate the review, though the result is anti-climactic. Nothing we didn't expect. This isn't a gaming card anyway, and it won't go for anywhere near MSRP. A $3,000+ street price wouldn't shock me, even after the initial rush. 5080 and below is where the game gets interesting--except not really, because the 5090 results offer pretty conclusive evidence that mid-range Blackwell will offer a negligible perf uplift over Ada.

Which leads to the perennial elephant-sized disappointment in the room: AMD looks poised to squander this opportunity, as usual.

 

[wNotyarD]

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NV to both CPU makers: "Not my problem, bro"

 

[Broken Processor]

Honestly it did better than I was expecting. But there's no chance in hell anyone will see a 2000.00 launch price card I'm fully expecting prices to be closer to 3000.00 or higher if the rumours of no supply are true.

I'm fully expecting most of Nvidia 5xxx lineup to look pretty crap if the 9070/xt can get close enough to 7900xtx in average FPS when released in march. Some very interesting times ahead.

 

[Legacy-ZA]

While I think anyone spending 2000+ on a gpu will figure out how to make this work I do expect it to be a new challenge one has to consider.

Yes, I am rather curious, as I am running a Noctua NH-D15 G2 for my CPU cooler and Samsung 990P Pro slotted in above my main PCIe 16x slot, I consider my system very well cooled, however, if you do buy such a GPU with this type of cooling design, I would really like to find out how it will impact these two components, I don't have to tell anyone, that performance will be impacted. I am curious as to how much.

 

[Krit]

Honestly it did better than I was expecting. But there's no chance in hell anyone will see a 2000.00 launch price card I'm fully expecting prices to be closer to 3000.00 or higher if the rumours of no supply are true.

When RTX 4090 is not losing it's value that clearly shows how great RTX 5090 really is shows it's true colors. Right now no one is selling their own RTX 4090 for a decent price.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Yes, I am rather curious, as I am running a Noctua NH-D15 G2 for my CPU cooler and Samsung 990P Pro slotted in above my main PCIe 16x slot, I consider my system very well cooled, however, if you do buy such a GPU with this type of cooling design, I would really like to find out how it will impact these two components, I don't have to tell anyone, that performance will be impacted. I am curious as to how much.

Even more interesting would be if it's vertical mounted lol.

 

[Legacy-ZA]

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Do you have one for an M.2 drive?

 

[freeagent]

Just saying.. you can really move a lot of air in a Torrent.

 

[Legacy-ZA]

Even more interesting would be if it's vertical mounted lol.

I think it will blast the side panel/glass, impacting every hardware piece, unless you have a case with a open-mesh design for a side panel for the air to escape that way, then I don't see any issues.

 

[jootn2kx]

Would like to see comparison of lossless scaling X4 vs multi frame generation X4.

 

[Krit]

I'm fully expecting most of Nvidia 5xxx lineup to look pretty crap if the 9070/xt can get close enough to 7900xtx in average FPS when released in march. Some very interesting times ahead.

I'm also looking for AMD as only way out of this shit show. I'm not saying it's full gone conclusion but RTX 80/70Ti/70 aren't looking great at the moment. (May be another p/p stagnation disappointment)