• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 Spotted with Missing ROPs, NVIDIA Confirms the Issue, Multiple Vendors Affected, RTX 5070 Ti, Too

Joined
Jan 8, 2017
Messages
9,707 (3.27/day)
System Name Good enough
Processor AMD Ryzen R9 7900 - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora Edge
Motherboard ASRock B650 Pro RS
Cooling 2x 360mm NexXxoS ST30 X-Flow, 1x 360mm NexXxoS ST30, 1x 240mm NexXxoS ST30
Memory 32GB - FURY Beast RGB 5600 Mhz
Video Card(s) Sapphire RX 7900 XT - Alphacool Eisblock Aurora
Storage 1x Kingston KC3000 1TB 1x Kingston A2000 1TB, 1x Samsung 850 EVO 250GB , 1x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB
Display(s) LG UltraGear 32GN650-B + 4K Samsung TV
Case Phanteks NV7
Power Supply GPS-750C
The kinds of defective RTX 5090s discussed in the article have 168 active ROPs, so they can be disabled in groups of 8 or factors of 8. I would think that disabling the same 16 ROPs via VBIOS would cause yields to plummet because those left could be damaged or failed.
I imagine they are sorted by which ROPs are fussed off and configured independently then sold as different models, sometimes even amongst the same model you have cards that come with different versions of VBIOS.

I also explained that there are just way too many defects to figure out by simply checking fuses.
 
Last edited:

W1zzard

Administrator
Staff member
Joined
May 14, 2004
Messages
28,261 (3.72/day)
Processor Ryzen 7 5700X
Memory 48 GB
Video Card(s) RTX 4080
Storage 2x HDD RAID 1, 3x M.2 NVMe
Display(s) 30" 2560x1600 + 19" 1280x1024
Software Windows 10 64-bit
that come with different versions of VBIOS.
The VBIOS does not configure any unit counts on modern GPUs, hasn't for like 10+ years. The VBIOS is identical on all cards, no matter how they are configured for harvesting.

Because otherwise people could unlock units and GPU vendors really don't want that. Yet its how this journey into computer hardware began for me around 2003
 
Joined
Jan 8, 2017
Messages
9,707 (3.27/day)
System Name Good enough
Processor AMD Ryzen R9 7900 - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora Edge
Motherboard ASRock B650 Pro RS
Cooling 2x 360mm NexXxoS ST30 X-Flow, 1x 360mm NexXxoS ST30, 1x 240mm NexXxoS ST30
Memory 32GB - FURY Beast RGB 5600 Mhz
Video Card(s) Sapphire RX 7900 XT - Alphacool Eisblock Aurora
Storage 1x Kingston KC3000 1TB 1x Kingston A2000 1TB, 1x Samsung 850 EVO 250GB , 1x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB
Display(s) LG UltraGear 32GN650-B + 4K Samsung TV
Case Phanteks NV7
Power Supply GPS-750C
Because otherwise people could unlock units
If they are physically disabled as I am assuming it must always be the case these days there would be no risk of that, even if it's by means of blowing fuses or whatnot. Every wafer gets checked for defects anyway, I just don't see why you'd leave it up to software, it's not reliable and in theory there would always be a risk of someone finding out a way to enable them.

Why does Nvidia talk about seeking replacements rather that giving people the option to update the VBIOS. This doesn't make sense, if they are defective this means there is no risk of unlocking units, if they aren't that means they were disabled through the firmware and this could be fixed by a VBIOS update but why would they ever do that in the first place, doesn't sound plausible at all.
 
Last edited:
Joined
Dec 31, 2020
Messages
1,184 (0.78/day)
System Name Dust Collector Mower 50
Processor E5-4627 v4
Motherboard VEINEDA X99
Memory 32 GB
Video Card(s) 2080 Ti
Storage NE-512
Display(s) G27Q
Case MATREXX 50
Power Supply SF450
to be honest 5090 should have had 240 ROPs for the shader count.
Now it's just a pale shadow of what it could be. 8 ROPs is not the only issue here and you're missing the forest for the trees.
 
Joined
Jul 5, 2013
Messages
29,307 (6.89/day)
except Macz is correct
No. The economic theory that user presents is little more than amateur-hour nonsense.

For people buying directly a dGPU through retail, you are probably right, but what about people buying prebuilt ?
That's a larger, more expensive purchase. Do you think people would not do their homework? Sure, some don't, there are always going to be those who buy based on buzz words and flashy gimmicks. But to say most are like that is very narrow thinking indeed.

Paper launch, fake prices, fake frames, fake resolution, terrible generational performance uplift, bricked cards, flawed board design, defective chips and no PhysX. But hey, at least we got real flames for our $2,000 $6,000 card.
What really sucks is that you are not wrong. This has become the most pathetic GPU launch in history. What makes it even more pathetic is that NVidia is likely going to call it a success.

das ist nicht gut
Translation, That is not good.
 
Last edited:
Joined
Jun 22, 2006
Messages
1,099 (0.16/day)
System Name Beaver's Build
Processor AMD Ryzen 9800X3D
Motherboard Asus TUF Gaming X670E Plus WiFi
Cooling Corsair H115i RGB PLATINUM 97 CFM Liquid
Memory G.SKILL Trident Z5 Neo DDR5-6000 CL30 RAM 32GB (2x16GB)
Video Card(s) NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 Founders Edition
Storage WD_BLACK 8TB SN850X NVMe
Display(s) Alienware AW3225QF 32" 4K 240 Hz OLED
Case Fractal Design Design Define R6 USB-C
Audio Device(s) Focusrite 2i4 USB Audio Interface
Power Supply SuperFlower LEADEX TITANIUM 1600W
Mouse Razer DeathAdder V2
Keyboard Corsair K70 RGB Pro
Software Microsoft Windows 11 Pro
Benchmark Scores 3dmark = https://www.3dmark.com/spy/51229598
Top