NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 Spotted with Missing ROPs, NVIDIA Confirms the Issue, Multiple Vendors Affected, RTX 5070 Ti, Too

bubbleawsome · 2025-02-21T13:49:15+0000

HD64G said:
5090D for China, remained and sold as a full 5090. What a mess this gen has become with burnt connectors, fake MSRPs and untra-low stock and now thos...

5090D ROP count is the same as the 5090

HD64G · 2025-02-21T13:49:48+0000

bubbleawsome said:
5090D ROP count is the same as the 5090

Even worse then...

Hecate91 · 2025-02-21T13:52:46+0000

Fake MSRP's, burning power connectors, artificially limited supply, cards not able to run at PCI-e 5.0, bad drivers (which wasn't reported here), hotspot temp sensor removed, and now fake 5090's missing ROPs.
The 50 series has been a complete disaster yet Nvidia will probably get away with it.

AusWolf · 2025-02-21T13:59:02+0000

Hecate91 said:
Fake MSRP's, burning power connectors, artificially limited supply, cards not able to run at PCI-e 5.0, bad drivers (which wasn't reported here), hotspot temp sensor removed, and now fake 5090's missing ROPs.
The 50 series has been a complete disaster yet Nvidia will probably get away with it.

It has DLSS. Bam! Instant win. :rockout:

Darmok N Jalad · 2025-02-21T14:06:13+0000

Chomiq said:
Collector's item by now.

Haha, I collected baseball cards as a kid, and the “Error cards” were indeed worth more. So there we have it, the ZOTAC 5090E.

Bomby569 · 2025-02-21T14:08:13+0000

that's not ok, i guess people won't return them because they wouldn't have a card to replace but still

neatfeatguy · 2025-02-21T14:22:03+0000

Do I see that some chips for the a 5080 Ti Super were accidentally released as a 5090?

Dyatlov A · 2025-02-21T14:33:07+0000

Ohh, that’s great, when my 5080 will arrive, first thing I will check if i have all my Rops

neatfeatguy · 2025-02-21T14:33:22+0000

Cheeseball said:
Damn. More ZOTAC drama again. LOL

First was the shitty customer support throughout 2014 to 2020, then blatant price gouging and mining-promotions during COVID. Now its cut-down GPUs which may not directly be ZOTAC's fault since they don't fab them themselves, but they are involved since its only been seen on their boards.

I remember when Zotac was just kind of one of those AIBs that was there, but not well used or recommended by many people. I had a GTX 570 from them (actually I still have it), thing was awesome - aside from the fact it sounded like a small plane when the fan ramped up to 80%+. OC'ed like a champ.

Then they had an amazing release with the Maxwell series. I had a 980Ti AMP! Omega. Solid card ran quiet and took a heavy OC, pushed it past anything a 1070 could reach. Aside from some posts here and there about some coil whine, most people were raving about how awesome their production and quality was.

Then when the 10x0 models came out there were a lot of posts about sub-par quality from Zotac and it only seemed to compound as new generation after new generation was released. Zotac went from one of the best GPU lines I ever used (next to EVGA) to one that I probably wouldn't go back to.

Dawora · 2025-02-21T14:34:27+0000

Maybe fixed whit bios update..

But he can sell it for +4000$ someone will buy it, i sold mine 4.95k
And going to buy dif model later, now im using only msi 4090 liquid x

Bomby569 said:
that's not ok, i guess people won't return them because they wouldn't have a card to replace but still

Its so stupid to return it if its working, better to sell it, i sold mine under 1hour

AusWolf said:
It has DLSS. Bam! Instant win.

Kinda it is, whit DLSS Nvidia is much better option than AMD whit shitty FSR
No 4K gaming whit AMD Gpus Rip.

Legacy-ZA · 2025-02-21T14:48:49+0000

Hecate91 said:
Fake MSRP's, burning power connectors, artificially limited supply, cards not able to run at PCI-e 5.0, bad drivers (which wasn't reported here), hotspot temp sensor removed, and now fake 5090's missing ROPs.
The 50 series has been a complete disaster yet Nvidia will probably get away with it.

I add the RTX5080 to cart, then I remember all these points, and I remove it from cart. But you forgot to add another item, 32-bit PhysX is unsupported on many older titles that people like me still enjoy, tanking FPS from 400+ to just 7, I guess we can just use MFG to make that 28! :roll:

I am eagerly waiting on AMDs product launch, if it's anywhere near the $500-550, it's instant buy for me.

chrcoluk · 2025-02-21T14:52:24+0000

Wow, what is going on, I assume all these guys can refund with no issues, I wonder if Nvidia sent wrong chips out by mistake, or there is some stealthy bait and switch.

TheDeeGee · 2025-02-21T14:56:56+0000

3DVCash said:
Imagine getting one of these from a scalper...

Imagine buying anything from a scalper to begin with.

Legacy-ZA · 2025-02-21T15:00:09+0000

chrcoluk said:
Wow, what is going on, I assume all these guys can refund with no issues, I wonder if Nvidia sent wrong chips out by mistake, or there is some stealthy bait and switch.

I have actually been pondering and letting my mind go a little, but maybe, just maybe this is the only way they can get rid of the old stock, limit the new stock and then re-launch it on 2nm, because, let's be serious, this refresh called "blackwell" on 4nm is just stupid.

PixelTech · 2025-02-21T15:07:08+0000

Well, I knew ZOTAC for having fans that have low life spans or are frequently DOA. And are typically cheaper for their less development spent on cooler design.
I think a lot of people are going to be evil eying at ZOTAC in their Discord after this.
And I think this low ROPs is why their Solid (non OC) variant/SKU/model has been missing on their store page for a week plus.

chrcoluk · 2025-02-21T15:08:12+0000

mxthunder said:
Someone posted on videocardz that a 5080 also has 16 missing ROPS.

Silicon lottery remastered.

AusWolf · 2025-02-21T15:08:55+0000

Bomby569 said:
that's not ok, i guess people won't return them because they wouldn't have a card to replace but still

Maybe that was intentional all along.

Prima.Vera · 2025-02-21T15:10:18+0000

Well, when I said ZOTAC is the shitties manufacturer I had ever have, folks jumped on me.
My 3080 gets super hot fast, throttles down all the time, very noisy, crashes if I activate Resizable BAR, crashes in games all the time if I don't enable forced fixed voltage, etc, etc.
Is the worst of the worst video cards I had ever have.

john_ · 2025-02-21T15:11:24+0000

Nvidia admitted that there where some problems with the first chips based on Blackwell.

Considering that Nvidia is selling cards as quickly as they build them, I wonder if those first batches with those problematic chips where not send to the trash, but sold as normal, probably with a small discount, to AIBs. In that case AIBs where probably instructed by Nvidia to not differentiate their cards with a different model number and Nvidia was probably also hopping most buyers to be pros, researchers or gamers who don't really know what GPUz is. A few cases could be covered up quietly with swift RMAs and everything could pass under the radar. But it didn't.

Prima.Vera said:
Well, when I said ZOTAC is the shitties manufacturer I had ever have, folks jumped on me.

ZOTAC is not the manufacturer of those chips. Fewer ROPs, I believe points to Nvidia, not the AIB.

BlaezaLite · 2025-02-21T15:14:28+0000

What an absolute shit show. Nvidia really are scamming assholes, who could of knew? :roll:

Hecate91 · 2025-02-21T15:16:10+0000

Legacy-ZA said:
I add the RTX5080 to cart, then I remember all these points, and I remove it from cart. But you forgot to add another item, 32-bit PhysX is unsupported on many older titles that people like me still enjoy, tanking FPS from 400+ to just 7, I guess we can just use MFG to make that 28!

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I am eagerly waiting on AMDs product launch, if it's anywhere near the $500-550, it's instant buy for me.

Agreed, removing 32 bit PhysX is disappointing, and removing it is just another proprietary technology that Nvidia let die off with no concern for anyone who still wants to enjoy older games.
AMD really needs to get the pricing right on the 9070XT, they have an amazing chance to get a ton of sales with how hard Nvidia is failing.

AusWolf said:
It has DLSS. Bam! Instant win.

DLSS,RT,and AI, easy editors choice award.

JustBenching · 2025-02-21T15:17:55+0000

Besides the obvious and expected nvidia hating - why is Zotac solid the only model affected with whatever this is?

AusWolf · 2025-02-21T15:19:44+0000

JustBenching said:
Besides the obvious and expected nvidia hating - why is Zotac solid the only model affected with whatever this is?

Check again:

Update 14:22 UTC: Apparently the issue isn't specific to Zotac, HXL posted a screenshot of an MSI RTX 5090D, the China-specific variant of the RTX 5090 with nerfed compute performance, but which is supposed to have 176 ROPs. Much like the Zotac RTX 5090 Solid, it has 8 missing ROPs.

JustBenching · 2025-02-21T15:25:35+0000

AusWolf said:
Check again:

Still, I want to know if it randomly affects all models. I find it highly unlikely that an AIB decided to send such a model to TPU for review, that's crazy if the goal was to try and hide the fact.

mb194dc · 2025-02-21T15:31:30+0000

The 5 series is indeed cursed ? Just like the old 5900 ultra series woes ...

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