nvidia gpu market share takes over 90% in Q4 2024 (Get's closer to full monopoly)

[AusWolf]

Like I said before, my 4070Ti smokes my 3070Ti

By a lot

At a $200 higher MSRP, it damn well should.

 

[Hecate91]

At a $200 higher MSRP, it damn well should.

The 4070Ti really smokes the 3070Ti in higher MSRP for sure, at $799 its close or into what an x80 card should be, IMO.
I might've considered a 4070Ti if it had 16GB in the first place, instead of selling as a "super" version. Then again, I didn't want to deal with the 12vhpwr connector, interesting how Nvidia made their users beta testers on it. Intel didn't put the 16 pin PCI-e connector on the B580 even though they are part of the PCI-SIG group, if its a matter cost then Nvidia shouldn't be using the 16 pin connector on the x60 cards.

 

[freeagent]

At a $200 higher MSRP, it damn well should.

I paid over1300 for my 3070Ti and 1027 for my 4070Ti..

 

[dirtyferret]

I paid over1300 for my 3070Ti

if people didn't understand covid and saw that price today they would be like "he was laundering money or buying drugs"

 

[GhostRyder]

I paid over1300 for my 3070Ti and 1027 for my 4070Ti..

For the 4070ti I guess thats not that bad because isnt that in Canadian dollars, so wouldn't that be like 718 USD? So was that pretty good to you (Price wise) or bad?

As for the market share, well unfortunately that probably is not going to change soon. It might creep back closer to 80/20 but only if AMD really delivers on its mid range stuff. However, I doubt any major shifts will happen until AMD really makes some huge changes and gets alot of content creators/pro gamers to use their products.

 

[freeagent]

so wouldn't that be like 718

It was like 619usd or something like that at the time.

 

[GhostRyder]

It was like 619usd or something like that at the time.

Ah ok gotcha, I just wasnt sure was MSRP is over in Canada so couldn't tell if that was a good deal or bad. I just knew that currently its like .70 USD to 1 Canadian Dollar.

 

[freeagent]

Ah ok gotcha, I just wasnt sure was MSRP is over in Canada so couldn't tell if that was a good deal or bad. I just knew that currently its like .70 USD to 1 Canadian Dollar.

Yeah our dollar really sucks right now. I got the card during an Amazon sale, it was a smoking deal at the time considering they were new.

 

[AusWolf]

I paid over1300 for my 3070Ti and 1027 for my 4070Ti..

Because you bought the 3070 Ti during the crypto boom at a scalped price, I suppose. That's why I compared MSRP, not retail price.

 

[kapone32]

Because you bought the 3070 Ti during the crypto boom at a scalped price, I suppose. That's why I compared MSRP, not retail price.

Same thing happened to me my 6800XT was $1599 and the 7900XT was $1299. Even when the 7000 series launched some 6900XTs were still more expensive due to Distributor pricing. That is one of the reasons I do not buy Nvidia as they saw the market was askew and juiced pricing to both commercial and retail customers so that today's reality (where i live) that 4090s have been few and far between at actual brick and mortar. Does not mean that Newegg sells every single 4090 they have listed but the narrative no longer mentions that in some things and Games the 7900XTX was just as fast or faster than the 4090. When you go down the stack it gets even worse but RT and DLSS are used to distract that and people will tell me that I am lying even though TPU latest GPU reviews showed that the 7700XT is the 12GB card to get. Just wait their is a pricing War coming in the GPU space. Nvidia may have the hubris that they will not engage. Time will tell.

 

[Krit]

That is one of the reasons I do not buy Nvidia as they saw the market was askew and juiced pricing to both commercial and retail customers

This is why i do not respect RTX 4000 series at all. Fake prices and fake naming. I'm not a fanboy as long as drivers are stable and prices are right. Intel, amd or nvidia i don't care......

 

[freeagent]

Because you bought the 3070 Ti during the crypto boom at a scalped price, I suppose. That's why I compared MSRP, not retail price.

MSRP did not exist back then, you know that.

 

[kapone32]

This is why i do not respect RTX 4000 series at all. Fake prices and fake naming.

When COVID hit I had a milestone Birthday so I got me a Gaming laptop. It has a 3060 laptop. The next generation of laptop from Nvidia uses the 4050. The thing is the 4050 has half the bit bus of the 3060. For more money. The kicker though was that while my panel is 1080P so the 3060 is fine they upgraded the panels to 1440P. That had a funny effect though. Where the 3060M was the cheapest way to get into PC Gaming to the point where it effected the Steam Charts that some people swear by. The 4000 series sold well until people started getting the real performance of those cards as the Console ports proved but Gaming laptops went from $2999 as a maximum to over $7000 in some Cases for the I9/4090 variants, even though the China fiasco when they bought 4090 laptops and realized it did not work for what they wanted so for about 6 months to a year could buy 4090M DGPUs on their own PCB. Meanwhile the 6600M from the same source was so good even the tech media sang it's blushes. In the narrative Nvidia indeed is King but the narrative and the truth are rarely the same thing. Their is a narrative that most TPU users are AMD fans and what the new members don't understand is most of us have come to our positions by nuanced dialogue with the odd fan boy rant about the CPU war and storage and whatever else because we all love tech, but Nvidia vs AMD/ATI is pure Spy vs Spy. Yes I keep saying that but that is what it is. I am drunk so another Great analogy would be Hawkmoon from the Moorcock Fantasy World. If you put most people in front of a computer they would be hard pressed to tell a difference in peformance in this Freesync enabled World.

 

[A Computer Guy]

if people didn't understand covid and saw that price today they would be like "he was laundering money or buying drugs"

Interesting observation because I see pricing like that on ebay and Amazon and to a certain extent newegg and think the exact same thing.

 

[AusWolf]

MSRP did not exist back then, you know that.

I know that, but it's completely besides the point here. If regular gamers had any common sense and waited out a little bit for prices to stabilise before committing to a purchase, then scalping would have never been a thing. If you desperately needed a new GPU for work, that's a different story.

All I did during that awful time is sell my 5700 XT for £600 (that I previously bought for £450) and buy a 2070 for £500 instead. Buying anything else would have been stupid.

My point is that Nvidia released the 3070 Ti for $599 and the 4070 Ti for $799, which is a 33% increase by default, before any scalping could happen. They are not GPUs of the same category, so it's only natural that one is faster than the other. How much you bought it for is irrelevant, and so is any similarity in their model names. Smoke and mirrors. What matters is their release price and performance class.

Similarly on AMD's side, the 7800 XT is the successor of the 6700 XT, not the 6800 XT. It's an MSRP of $499 vs $479.

Edit: If you're looking for an Ampere card with the same release price as the 4070 Ti, it's the 3080 12 GB which is only 14% slower. Just a note, the performance difference between the 6700 XT and 7800 XT is 33%.

 

[3valatzy]

Similarly on AMD's side, the 7800 XT is the successor of the 6700 XT, not the 6800 XT. It's an MSRP of $499 vs $479.

This is the reason for Nvidia's market share sky rocketing, while AMD's plummeting.
RX 7600 - sidegrade

AMD Radeon RX 6650 XT Specs

AMD Navi 23, 2635 MHz, 2048 Cores, 128 TMUs, 64 ROPs, 8192 MB GDDR6, 2190 MHz, 128 bit

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RX 7600 XT - useless with slow shaders and overkill VRAM amount

RX 7700 XT - sidegrade

RX 7800 XT - downgrade

ASUS Radeon RX 7900 GRE TUF OC Review

The ASUS Radeon RX 7900 GRE TUF OC comes with a dual BIOS feature and a premium all-metal cooling solution that runs whisper-quiet. The TUF also offers adjustable RGB lighting, and cooling performance that's among the best of all the GRE cards that we've tested.

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RX 7900 GRE - don't know what an error that was
RX 7900 XT should have been RX 7800 XT from the get go for $599.
RX 7900 XTX should have been whatever, even RX 7999 Ultra Max Titan...

 

[AusWolf]

This is the reason for Nvidia's market share sky rocketing, while AMD's plummeting.
RX 7600 - sidegrade

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AMD Radeon RX 6650 XT Specs

AMD Navi 23, 2635 MHz, 2048 Cores, 128 TMUs, 64 ROPs, 8192 MB GDDR6, 2190 MHz, 128 bit

www.techpowerup.com

RX 7600 XT - useless with slow shaders and overkill VRAM amount

RX 7700 XT - sidegrade
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RX 7800 XT - downgrade

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ASUS Radeon RX 7900 GRE TUF OC Review

The ASUS Radeon RX 7900 GRE TUF OC comes with a dual BIOS feature and a premium all-metal cooling solution that runs whisper-quiet. The TUF also offers adjustable RGB lighting, and cooling performance that's among the best of all the GRE cards that we've tested.

www.techpowerup.com

RX 7900 GRE - don't know what an error that was
RX 7900 XT should have been RX 7800 XT from the get go for $599.
RX 7900 XTX should have been whatever, even RX 7999 Ultra Max Titan...

It seems you're highly skilled at cherry picking isolated examples that fit your twisted narrative, without any context (which game, which settings), or considering MSRP whatsoever. Bravo!

Like I said above, the 7800 XT came at a similar price as the 6700 XT did before, so it needs to be compared to that, not the 6800 XT. So many people get blinded by model name alone, it's unbelievable.

The rest of your post isn't worth my time, sorry.

 

[3valatzy]

which game, which settings

All games at all settings ..

 

[AusWolf]

All games at all settings ..

Let me call BS on that. Perhaps you're too lazy to do your research properly.

 

[3valatzy]

Let me call BS on that. Perhaps you're too lazy to do your research properly.

You have to compare product tiers / product positioning, not relative pricings, because they depend on many factors - countries taxes, inflation, TSMC wafers, components on the PCB, etc ..
RX 6700 XT -> RX 7700 XT, not RX 6700 XT -> RX 7800 XT.

Because you also had RX 6800 -> RX 6800 XT -> RX 6900 XT -> RX 6950 XT.
The 7000 series doesn't have so many models.

 

[AusWolf]

You have to compare product tiers / product positioning, not relative pricings, because they depend on many factors - countries taxes, inflation, TSMC wafers, components on the PCB, etc ..
RX 6700 XT -> RX 7700 XT, not RX 6700 XT -> RX 7800 XT.

Because you also had RX 6800 -> RX 6800 XT -> RX 6900 XT -> RX 6950 XT.
The 7000 series doesn't have so many models.

No. MSRP matters, because that's the intended price by the manufacturer. You pay taxes and tariffs on top of that regardless if it's a 6700 XT, 7700 XT or a 4080 Ti.

Product tier is an imaginary concept that only exists in one's head. I can call my new GPU the Potato FX 5000 or 7000 or 9900. It doesn't matter. What matters is its price and performance.

 

[dirtyferret]

MSRP matters, because that's the intended price by the manufacturer. You pay taxes and tariffs on top of that regardless

in the US (not sure about UK but I would guess it's similar) the tariff is paid off your commercial or freight invoice which would have a unit price (not the MSRP which would be much higher).

 

[freeagent]

I know that, but it's completely besides the point here. If regular gamers had any common sense and waited out a little bit for prices to stabilise before committing to a purchase, then scalping would have never been a thing. If you desperately needed a new GPU for work, that's a different story.

I bought it from a store lol.. how long did you want people to wait? One year? Two? Three would have been better right? Because that way these prices wouldn't exist?

I didn't see AMD catering to anyone but themselves neither. I know.. how dare I say that about dear precious.

All I did during that awful time is sell my 5700 XT for £600

 

[AusWolf]

I bought it from a store lol.. how long did you want people to wait? One year? Two? Three would have been better right? Because that way these prices wouldn't exist?

Store or not, prices were ridiculous anyhow. I didn't buy anything because of this very reason. Besides, I was sorted with my 2070 and the extra 100 quid I made on selling the 5700 XT. Skipping a generation or two isn't the end of the world.

The question is not how long to wait, but if everyone had decided to control their upgrade urges for a bit, then stores would have had no choice but to normalise prices a lot sooner. It's all supply and demand. If there's a demand at a high price, then who would be stupid not to exploit it?

I didn't see AMD catering to anyone but themselves neither. I know.. how dare I say that about dear precious.

I didn't intend to defend AMD... Just to prove that the 4070 Ti isn't such a good value card as it may seem judging by model name alone.

Edit: If the 5060 ends up offering 4070 Ti level performance while costing the same money as the 4070 Ti, then are you gonna say that it's great value because it's an x60 card offering x70 Ti performance and is a lot faster than the 4060 despite costing way more?

 

[freeagent]

Just to prove that the 4070 Ti isn't such a good value card as it may seem judging by model name alone.

Like I said, got it on sale, so to me the price was awesome, and was considered a good deal in Americaland too.