NVIDIA has revealed the prices for the RTX 5090, 5080 and 5070

[freeagent]

Looks like my 5070Ti wont be as bad as I thought

 

[Scattergrunt]

Prices are lower than I thought they'd be. (5090's price is still egregious, though) Trying to market the 5070 as being as fast as a 4090 is such obvious horse-####, but thats marketing for you. Not really surprised considering they all do it. Just hope that trend of marketing strategy ends.

I hope the raw performance on something like the 5070Ti or something is atleast more than 30%.

 

[Outback Bronze]

Trying to market the 5070 as being as fast as a 4090

If this is the case or remotely close to the performance of it, the 4090 will probably lose lots of value. Same with the rest 4of the 4xxx series line up.

 

[Scattergrunt]

If this is the case or remotely close to the performance of it, the 4090 will probably lose lots of value. Same with the rest 4of the 4xxx series line up.

Big IF there.

 

[yfn_ratchet]

They very carefully balanced the pricing in order to avoid major backlash, methinks. 5070 for """only""" $550 compared to the $600 the 4070(Super) went for, with similar comparisons up to the 5080. Their main squeeze, the 5090, gets the most wallet-ripping price, as it obviously attracts those with huge amounts of disposable income or companies that utilize someone else's in the form of venture capital. The rest of us just get idle, meager improvements that likely won't actually show their face until MONTHS after release once the sale(or rather, scalp) volume dies down.

Like I've felt for a while now, the most enticing part of these new releases is when the current becomes the old and that magically adjusts the price to its real value.

 

[mkppo]

I do want a 5090 as I held off on the 4xxx and the 3090 and 6950xt have both held up really well. Question is, how the actual hell do I get a 5090FE? I can bet bestbuy will be OOS in seconds again and I don't have the patience or time to go through what I did to get my 3090 so I guess no GPU for me this round as well.

Or maybe heatkiller will release a block for AIB's that is the same design as their FE block and I won't just be limited to FE's. I don't care how the stock cooler looks or performs

 

[Scattergrunt]

They very carefully balanced the pricing in order to avoid major backlash, methinks. 5070 for """only""" $550 compared to the $600 the 4070(Super) went for, with similar comparisons up to the 5080. Their main squeeze, the 5090, gets the most wallet-ripping price

If you ask me, I think its choice architecture to an extent. the 5080 is genuinely at a decent price point, assuming you can even get it for that MSRP. 5070ti and 5070 are fine. I wouldn't put it past NVIDIA to use choice architecture.

Like I've felt for a while now, the most enticing part of these new releases is when the current becomes the old and that magically adjusts the price to its real value.

Honestly, I feel ya. Especially since it seems like NVIDIA is not pushing for too much raw performance gains; and AMD is aiming for mid-range. If stock of certain PC components wasn't suddenly disappearing, right now would be a great time to buy used components. But I can attest that the wells are drying up again.

 

[theouto]

If this is the case or remotely close to the performance of it, the 4090 will probably lose lots of value. Same with the rest 4of the 4xxx series line up.

Well, it's the same node, isn't it? Or at the very least it isn't as big a node shrink as ampere to ada was, so I don't think there's much they could've done beyond GDDR7 and a power bump to up the performance of the 5070, case in point: the 5090's 575W TDP. Maybe it will get to a 4070ti, but even then I doubt that, considering that no benchmarks were shown, so I don't think they are that confident in the raw performance of the card.

 

[wolf]

Their own charts don't support the claim of double the RT performance. In any case, we only have to wait three weeks for reviews.

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The only thing I'd point out here is that they could improve RT performance by 2x and that doesn't necessarily mean double the framerate.

Example:

Say the game in Raster runs at 10ms frame times = 100 fps

Adding RT effects on 40 series costs an additional 6.6ms frame time, totalling 16.6ms or 60fps

Running the RT effect on 50 series (with equivalent raster) costs now half of that at 3.3ms, totalling 13.3ms or 75fps

Twice the RT performance, definitely not twice the actual resulting FPS.

Vague numbers pulled from my ass, because of course we'd expect a 5090 vs 4090 to also have improved raster performance and have a higher framerate without RT too, but there are lots of factors that affect this, including the CPU holding back these monstrous GPU's. I've had anywhere from mild, to significant, to crazy increases on my 3080 going from a 5800X3D to 9800X3D, so I'd wager there would be many situations a 5090 is not showing it's true potential even with a 9800X3D and at 4k, that potential may only be realised years/multiple CPU gens down the road.

 

[AsRock]

FC6 is massively CPU limited.

Who cares FC6 is shIT anyways.

 

[Franzen4Real]

I do want a 5090 as I held off on the 4xxx and the 3090 and 6950xt have both held up really well. Question is, how the actual hell do I get a 5090FE? I can bet bestbuy will be OOS in seconds again and I don't have the patience or time to go through what I did to get my 3090 so I guess no GPU for me this round as well.

When 40 series launched nVidia sent out invite only links through GFE to purchase a 4090 at Best Buy. They held a set amount of FE cards for current nVidia users that were not available to the public. That is how I got mine. I'm hoping they do the same for this series.

^^^this is an old screenshot I posted in the forums during the 40 series launch just fyi

 

[jormungand]

i have the bullets ready, whos first, whos better ???? Whos cheaper, better and hotter...i mean cooler ??

...

AMD 9070 XT or 5070-TI

 

[wolf]

Interesting thread here with some extrapolated performance metrics using the most apples to apples data we currently have.

Pinch of salt, naturally.

 

[evernessince]

If this is the case or remotely close to the performance of it, the 4090 will probably lose lots of value. Same with the rest 4of the 4xxx series line up.

0% chance the 5070 matches the 4090, the chart showing it was equal to a 4090 was with 5070 generating multiple fake frames.

4090 is going to maintain a decent value going into the 5000 series simply because there are only a handful of 24GB+ Nvidia consumer GPUs. If we assume the 5080 is more performant, it still is stuck with 16GB and that makes it vastly less useful for AI. I can see the 4090 around $1,000 but it depends on the 5080's perf.

 

[Ruru]

With Finland's VAT, the pricing of 5090 will probably be close to 3KEUR.

....and it's hella crazy when you realize that it uses a cut-down chip like 4090 has. A Ti later like with 3090 Ti earlier?

 

[Godrilla]

Interesting thread here with some extrapolated performance metrics using the most apples to apples data we currently have.

Pinch of salt, naturally.

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Crazy is the 2080 ti with dedicated Tensor cores vs 1080ti had a higher delta gain. Hey at least we can rely on smoke and mirrors to make up for the marketing and hype shortfalls.

 

[mkppo]

When 40 series launched nVidia sent out invite only links through GFE to purchase a 4090 at Best Buy. They held a set amount of FE cards for current nVidia users that were not available to the public. That is how I got mine. I'm hoping they do the same for this series.
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^^^this is an old screenshot I posted in the forums during the 40 series launch just fyi

That's actually pretty cool I didn't know that. I'm skipping a generation though so I doubt I'll get one but good to know. Imma hunt friends who own a 4090 now

 

[thesmokingman]

Microcenter texted me to come play 1/30 lmao, 5080/5090 will be stocked. Yea, not biting.

 

[Outback Bronze]

Big IF there.

Naturally.

4090 is going to maintain a decent value going into the 5000 series simply because there are only a handful of 24GB

Pretty sure a 4080 is worth more than a 3090 but we will soon see what happens marketwise. It's just a pre assumption.

 

[stahlhart]

Interesting thread here with some extrapolated performance metrics using the most apples to apples data we currently have.

Pinch of salt, naturally.

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You'd think that Jensen could have used a sliver of that AI of his and put something equivalent to this on the screen last night, instead of that $549 marketing bullshit.

 

[Tom.699]

Nice if it is what they say it is. I just checked and my card is 6 years old, didn't realize, feels more like 4 . 4090 didn't feel like enough of upgrade for a price. 5090 is expensive but maybe...

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[Zach_01]

Looks like nVidia is putting all eggs on the "new" enhancements DLSS/ML/AI basket.
Because without those the perf increased about 25-30%.
And guess what... with +25-30% power increase.
0% perf/watt increase without the enhancements at least for 5090 vs 4090 on FarCry 6.

Still impressive GPU though.
Too bad that AIB variants will most likely be sold more like $2500-3000 at least for the first (many?) months. And people will buy them...

 

[freeagent]

MSFS 2020 looks good with the AI stuff turned on.. maybe they were onto something..

 

[johnspack]

I remember when you could buy a whole high end gaming computer for what is now the price of a single video card. Ridiculous.

 

[freeagent]

5900X ~800 beaver bucks
5800X3D ~ 650 beaver bucks
CH8DH ~550 beaver bucks
32GB 3200C14 ~400 beaver bucks
5TB NVME ~ 550 beaver bucks
Seasonic PSU ~280 beaver bucks
4070Ti ~ 1000 beaver bucks

All of that should be about the cost of a 5090 in beaver bucks