nvidia - make modern and good GeForce Settings?

[ARF]

It's simple and it's working fine.
Why change it?

For the same reason software developers move to new versions - Microsoft doesn't use Windows XP and Windows Vista, and Windows 7 anymore.
Because at some point they had to move forward, be it for more sales of modern hardware, be it to include new features that couldn't be added to the old software, be it to refresh, and many others.

 

[Psychoholic]

its fairly simple and works fine as it is.
That said, i would like to see them modernize it a little, maybe use some geforce experience design language in the driver CP.

 

[R-T-B]

Are you telling me what I need?

I mean, your whole thread kinda is. You seem to think it's broken or "outdated" somehow and anyone who disagrees is wrong.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Nope and why, it's an item you'd only visit after an update or using nvclean to reinstate preference which mine is just switching to max quality.
Maybe just adding dark mode compatibility to follow system settings which I don't use but many others do.

 

[Mr.Scott]

FWIW, you don't need GFE to tune or clock your card. There are many other programs for that.
Voted NO.

 

[ARF]

At least they could increase the font size and make it more user friendly, something like tiles... It is not 1980s.

And the line called "change resolution" is already present in Windows:

 

[Vayra86]

I find it difficult for use and can't understand its philosophy - it lacks settings, own user settings / preferences, freedom to choose, innovation. It's like stuck in time while the products which it needs to control are state-of-the-art and most complicated devices created by man.
Graphics is opposite to simplicity - you need creativity, design, thought... neither of which is present here - it's like a simple wordpad document with no soul in it.

Its a piece of hardware. Its not graphics you get when you tweak its settings... you get the graphics part when you are gaming. NVCP is there for advanced users, GFE is there for users like you that want it on a silver platter, gold lined to reinforce the epeen vibes. You want your Apple experience with cutdown functionality - its GFE.

These Web 2.0 GUI / UX designs are built to simplify. Not to have maximum functionality. Thats the exact struggle Windows is in, it tries to marry both but you cant have both. Win 11 UX is a fucking nightmare because of it and W10 still has lots of ancient parts like device management panels.

 

[64K]

I would cry a little inside if Nvidia got rid of the current control panel. It's like an old friend to me.

 

[Shihab]

Graphics is opposite to simplicity - you need creativity, design, thought... neither of which is present here - it's like a simple wordpad document with no soul in it.

Most advanced, "graphics"-related software do no-nonsense designs for their settings/preferences windows. The most drastic visual changes that accompanied design modernization of these windows were switching to - or addition of - dark colour schemes, and perhaps changing fonts.

Spoiler: Examples

Unity 2022.2 (left) and Unreal Engine 5.1 (from official docs, right):


Blender 3.4 (left) and 3ds max 2022 (from official docs, right)


Photoshop (from official docs, left) and GIMP (right)


Don't get me started on IDEs and other devtools...

And let's not forget software that allow/prioritize configuration by directly editing plain-text ini/xml/etc files...

Config tools/windows should be clear and concise. They are sets of toggles, sliders, and drop-down menus, not museum pieces or architectural facades.

 

[ARF]

Its a piece of hardware. Its not graphics you get when you tweak its settings... you get the graphics part when you are gaming. NVCP is there for advanced users, GFE is there for users like you that want it on a silver platter, gold lined to reinforce the epeen vibes. You want your Apple experience with cutdown functionality - its GFE.

These Web 2.0 GUI / UX designs are built to simplify. Not to have maximum functionality. Thats the exact struggle Windows is in, it tries to marry both but you cant have both. Win 11 UX is a fucking nightmare because of it and W10 still has lots of ancient parts like device management panels.

No, GFE is for people like you who would share all their telemetry data (ONLINE !) without legal consent and legal right to do so
GFE is useless, nvidia must make something new which combines the ancient "control panel" for stupid and the avangard GFE.

 

[Vayra86]

No, GFE is for people like you who would share all their telemetry data (ONLINE !) without legal consent and legal right to do so
GFE is useless, nvidia must make something new which combines the ancient "control panel" for stupid and the avangard GFE.

But... I said I'm fine with NVCP I never use GFE. We agree though on that point - I hate it as much as you do, when it comes to telemetry, then.

Still the point stands - very often with a new UI, functionality is lost, simplified, condensed, etc.

 

[cvaldes]

No one can please everyone all the time. (And this isn't just software.)

If NVIDIA changes the software, some people will get upset. If NVIDIA does nothing, some people will get upset.

Either way, the software will change at some point, that's pretty much a given. I assure you, whatever browser you are reading this on, it's not the same as NCSA Mosaic circa 1992, that's for darned sure.

Another truth: there is no perfect software in this universe.

There are certainly improvements that NVIDIA could make to its control panel software, both in under-the-hood functionality as well as the front-facing user interface. Personally I value stability in software user interfaces but I can see room for improvement here.

 

[pavle]

I voted NO.
The recipe for nvidia driver install is either to (before install) unpack it to its directory and delete the "Telemetry" directory (and install it "Custom" without GFE) or just use the TPU nvcleanstall fine app to trim down the fat to just display driver with nvCP.
While old, nvCtrlPanel is simple and works. No reason to change it, everyone is used to it and knows exactly where to find things.
If I could add a function, I would add like the old Catalyst Control Center had "Restore factory settings" cumulative reset for all the aspects of driver.

 

[Vayra86]

Another truth: there is no perfect software in this universe.

Lies

 

[evernessince]

I voted no. I don't see a reason to, it's more of a advanced user thing. People that are less of a "power user" can use GeForce Experience for most things and it works better than AMD's software suite in my experience. Only thing nice of Nvidia would be to give us the options to undervolt and set profiles from GFE.

The control panel is more stripped down feature wise than GeForce experience so I don't see how that makes if for advanced users. It's more for people who don't want to install GeForce experience or those that don't like change.

They should speed up control panel, allow users to select a skin (including a much newer looking one), and add in features that GeForce experience has. That way people who want to keep looking at the same control panel for another 3 decades can while everyone else doesn't have to feel like they are back in the early 2000s every time they go to tweak a setting.

Oh does it now? That's cool. Except the fact that you need an online login to use the program. Why?

Online login is precisely why I don't install GFE. If Nvidia keep cramming features behind a login eventually they are going to force me over to AMD. It's also extremely annoying why they have settings separated between two different places. Combine then and if needed let the end user select the level of complexity of the interface. Many other programs can reformat the interface if the user has selected simple or advanced mode, Nvidia can surely do the same.

Yeah I don't like the login either. GFE and Radeon Software are about on par in my books in terms of stability, not too enthused about either one

Yes, AMD need to go through and remove the web browser components and other BS bloating their driver software that do not belong in a driver in the first place. Whoever does their UI designed doesn't seem to notice that what was originally clean design has not become far too cluttered. Things need to be cleaned up. AMD also need to stop releasing half assed driver features like Radeon Chill. That tech could be so much better but instead it ends up being just another AMD feature that no one uses that bloats the drivers for the vast majority of users.

 

[cvaldes]

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What if I want to change the color of the card table felt?

Or the pattern of the playing card back?

Or invert the columns (shorter on right)?

Where is the "hint" button?

Is the animation 30fps? 60fps? 120fps? VRR? Is it G-Sync compatible?

Should there be a clock? Would there be a selection of attractive analog and digital clock faces?

How does this look on a VR HMD?

8K display support?

Full path ray tracing? DLSS 3 with frame generation?

 

[Ando]

Well I did just have Adrenalin crash as I was looking through it
But it opens right back up in a few seconds, so does it really matter?
I certainly haven't had a "buggy" experience with it aside from that. It's useful mostly for monitoring, and I like being able to change individual settings per game (set different FPS limits for each game with chill as an example). I quite like Adrenalin personally. I remember when it still had "Radeon" in its name, good times.
I actually assumed Radeon had a basic "control panel" option with the stripped down driver download, they should maybe cobble something together like what Nvidia has for people that want that. And Nvidia should not require a log in for GFE.

 

[wolf]

Voted no, I'm used to it and I know where everything I want is and it works perfectly, zero desire for them to change it.

I see on reddit a lot people frothing on the Radeon software and crap-talking NVCP and I am on the complete opposite side of that argument. Sure the Radeon software visually looks more modern, and that's the only upside, it's a bloody dogs breakfast.

 

[Deleted member 223428]

Voted no. Tomorrow I'll give the NV control panel another look after a couple of years. I don't give a wet shit if it looks like a green CRT so long as it doesn't crash/timeout/fail to load, or even self-destruct from a right-click on the desktop.

 

[Vayra86]

What if I want to change the color of the card table felt?

Or the pattern of the playing card back?

Or invert the columns (shorter on right)?

Where is the "hint" button?

Is the animation 30fps? 60fps? 120fps? VRR? Is it G-Sync compatible?

Should there be a clock? Would there be a selection of attractive analog and digital clock faces?

How does this look on a VR HMD?

8K display support?

Full path ray tracing? DLSS 3 with frame generation?

I remember how cool it was to have the back of the cards in custom art. See, you want your quick time events and map markers in here, but we have casual gaming for that! This is hard core stuff right here, and 8K support was built in since 1999. On 8K, you can just about make up the fact you're playing Patience, and you NEED the green felt to recognize it, the other detail is so refined, you can use magnifying glass to see what the cards are. It all just works, see.