• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

NVIDIA Pulls GeForce 364.47 WHQL Driver Over Critical Bugs, Outs 364.51 Beta

Mussels

Freshwater Moderator
Joined
Oct 6, 2004
Messages
58,413 (7.94/day)
Location
Oystralia
System Name Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load)
Processor Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core)
Motherboard Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded)
Cooling Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate
Memory 2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V)
Video Card(s) Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W))
Storage 2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2
Display(s) Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) | Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) | Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144)
Case Fractal Design R6
Audio Device(s) Logitech G560 | Corsair Void pro RGB |Blue Yeti mic
Power Supply Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY)
Mouse Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL
Keyboard Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps)
VR HMD Oculus Rift S + Quest 2
Software Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware!
Benchmark Scores Nyooom.
He pointed out the same things i did, about how the attitudes have shifted now that Nvidia is the 'guilty' party, much like i did.

He just was not very polite about it. Bad John, be nicer.
 

64K

Joined
Mar 13, 2014
Messages
6,773 (1.73/day)
Processor i7 7700k
Motherboard MSI Z270 SLI Plus
Cooling CM Hyper 212 EVO
Memory 2 x 8 GB Corsair Vengeance
Video Card(s) Temporary MSI RTX 4070 Super
Storage Samsung 850 EVO 250 GB and WD Black 4TB
Display(s) Temporary Viewsonic 4K 60 Hz
Case Corsair Obsidian 750D Airflow Edition
Audio Device(s) Onboard
Power Supply EVGA SuperNova 850 W Gold
Mouse Logitech G502
Keyboard Logitech G105
Software Windows 10
Just pointed at, how people change there opinions based on which company did what. It is really something that I see it very often. For things that people will never give any excuses for AMD, will throw a dozen excuses when it will concern Nvidia or Intel. It is nothing strange to be fair. Once someone tried to prove to me that this is not the case. With his post proved all my points.

As for that old thread, the editorial, you did liked one post there(just do a quick search with your nickname in the first page, haven't checked the other pages, let's not be paranoid), so you did see that one, but you didn't participate. Never mind. No one can be at every post.

That is not true John. This site doesn't make excuses for Nvidia every time they screw up. Read through that post that you linked to and you will see a post from me reminding all of the people that think TPU kisses Nvidia's ass that when the GTX 970 fiasco came out the owner of this site, W1zzard, said that Nvidia lied to me and they lied to you about the specs. You can find it if you don't believe me. You will also see a post from the editor, btarunr, in that thread pointing out that TPU was all over Nvidia about the 970 and reporting it. Post #119

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/...s-since-a-catalyst-whql-release.212724/page-5

You may be only remembering the bad that was said about AMD here at TPU and not the bad that was said about Nvidia.
 

Mussels

Freshwater Moderator
Joined
Oct 6, 2004
Messages
58,413 (7.94/day)
Location
Oystralia
System Name Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load)
Processor Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core)
Motherboard Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded)
Cooling Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate
Memory 2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V)
Video Card(s) Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W))
Storage 2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2
Display(s) Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) | Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) | Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144)
Case Fractal Design R6
Audio Device(s) Logitech G560 | Corsair Void pro RGB |Blue Yeti mic
Power Supply Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY)
Mouse Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL
Keyboard Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps)
VR HMD Oculus Rift S + Quest 2
Software Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware!
Benchmark Scores Nyooom.
If 70% of the TPU population is Nvidia biased, its because 70% of the population owns nvidia cards.

Technically i own a GTX 550 Ti, so i'm in both camps. yay!
 
Joined
Dec 31, 2009
Messages
19,371 (3.56/day)
Benchmark Scores Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :)
Just pointed at, how people change there opinions based on which company did what. It is really something that I see it very often. For things that people will never give any excuses for AMD, will throw a dozen excuses when it will concern Nvidia or Intel. It is nothing strange to be fair. Once someone tried to prove to me that this is not the case. With his post proved all my points.

As for that old thread, the editorial, you did liked one post there(just do a quick search with your nickname in the first page, haven't checked the other pages, let's not be paranoid), so you did see that one, but you didn't participate. Never mind. No one can be at every post.
You pointed at ME, hence my response directly to you.

I don't see the point in this type of discussion... whether it was done "nice" or how you handled it... it only serves to start arguments.

I tried to search for myself in that thread, but it came up clean. I have no idea how to search for 'likes', but truth be told, I could care less. (EDIT: I lied, I looked post by post and didn't see one post that I liked. I could have missed it though...)

So tired of forums and their AMD/Intel/NVIDIA pissing matches. People need to grow up.

Anyhoo, I digress, and unsubscribe as this thread isn't going to do anything but spin its wheels...



EDIT: I received a PM showing me the post I liked. At this point some may think I would be chewing on my foot, however, the post I liked was #15 which was in response to W1zz being able to Alt+Tab out of a game with NVIDIA drivers. Go jump off a cliff John_... you are just starting trouble. :(
 
Last edited:
Joined
Sep 6, 2013
Messages
3,329 (0.81/day)
Location
Athens, Greece
System Name 3 desktop systems: Gaming / Internet / HTPC
Processor Ryzen 5 5500 / Ryzen 5 4600G / FX 6300 (12 years latter got to see how bad Bulldozer is)
Motherboard MSI X470 Gaming Plus Max (1) / MSI X470 Gaming Plus Max (2) / Gigabyte GA-990XA-UD3
Cooling Νoctua U12S / Segotep T4 / Snowman M-T6
Memory 32GB - 16GB G.Skill RIPJAWS 3600+16GB G.Skill Aegis 3200 / 16GB JUHOR / 16GB Kingston 2400MHz (DDR3)
Video Card(s) ASRock RX 6600 + GT 710 (PhysX)/ Vega 7 integrated / Radeon RX 580
Storage NVMes, ONLY NVMes/ NVMes, SATA Storage / NVMe boot(Clover), SATA storage
Display(s) Philips 43PUS8857/12 UHD TV (120Hz, HDR, FreeSync Premium) ---- 19'' HP monitor + BlitzWolf BW-V5
Case Sharkoon Rebel 12 / CoolerMaster Elite 361 / Xigmatek Midguard
Audio Device(s) onboard
Power Supply Chieftec 850W / Silver Power 400W / Sharkoon 650W
Mouse CoolerMaster Devastator III Plus / CoolerMaster Devastator / Logitech
Keyboard CoolerMaster Devastator III Plus / CoolerMaster Devastator / Logitech
Software Windows 10 / Windows 10&Windows 11 / Windows 10
That is not true John. This site doesn't make excuses for Nvidia every time they screw up. Read through that post that you linked to and you will see a post from me reminding all of the people that think TPU kisses Nvidia's ass that when the GTX 970 fiasco came out the owner of this site, W1zzard, said that Nvidia lied to me and they lied to you about the specs. You can find it if you don't believe me. You will also see a post from the editor, btarunr, in that thread pointing out that TPU was all over Nvidia about the 970 and reporting it. Post #119

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/...s-since-a-catalyst-whql-release.212724/page-5

You may be only remembering the bad that was said about AMD here at TPU and not the bad that was said about Nvidia.

I didn't talked about TPU. I talked about people, and that editorial was one person's writing, not TPU's official statement. Where have I posted something about TPU as a site?
My opinion back then(if I remember correctly) was that editorials shouldn't be in the first page together with the news, because someone's opinion could end up as a fact. As news. And it did. Many sites took that editorial and the opinion that the absence of frequent WHQL drivers where a sign of AMD's decay as a fact. As for the 970 fiasco, it was so obvious that it would have been a risk to try and push Nvidia's press release as a good excuse, and many sites that did that, got very negative responses in their comment sections. Of course many insisted that 3.5+0.5GB memory is 4GB memory and that there was nothing to talk about.

You pointed at ME, hence my response directly to you.

I don't see the point in this type of discussion... whether it was done "nice" or how you handled it... it only serves to start arguments.

I tried to search for myself in that thread, but it came up clean. I have no idea how to search for 'likes', but truth be told, I could care less.

So tired of forums and their AMD/Intel/NVIDIA pissing matches. People need to grow up.

Anyhoo, I digress, and unsubcribe as this thread isn't going to do anything but spin its wheels...

Funny. In the other thread you quote me with an attitude "let me teach you something". Did I complained in the previous thread that YOU POINTED AT ME? But you have no problem coming here complaining about me quoting you. Maybe we have the right to quote you only when we agree with you? Maybe you should grow up and have the dignity to accept that other persons having another opinion or point of view than you, are not just immature persons.
As for searching, I guess pressing Ctrl+F is difficult.

-----------

PS I am stopping it here. Sorry Mussels. I know that there is nothing more boring for a moderator than reading big posts(that also kill the English language)
 

Mussels

Freshwater Moderator
Joined
Oct 6, 2004
Messages
58,413 (7.94/day)
Location
Oystralia
System Name Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load)
Processor Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core)
Motherboard Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded)
Cooling Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate
Memory 2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V)
Video Card(s) Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W))
Storage 2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2
Display(s) Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) | Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) | Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144)
Case Fractal Design R6
Audio Device(s) Logitech G560 | Corsair Void pro RGB |Blue Yeti mic
Power Supply Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY)
Mouse Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL
Keyboard Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps)
VR HMD Oculus Rift S + Quest 2
Software Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware!
Benchmark Scores Nyooom.
Goddamnit - guys, be nice. Leave it be.
 
Joined
Oct 23, 2015
Messages
56 (0.02/day)
Processor i5-6600K
Motherboard Gigabyte Z710-HD3
Cooling H60
Memory 32 GB DDR4-2133
Video Card(s) EVGA 980 Ti
Storage BX100 1 TB
Display(s) Acer S277HK
Case Fractal Design R5
Power Supply EVGA 750W B2
Mouse Logitech G400s
Keyboard MS Sidewinder X4
I don't know if this has been said before, but with regards to WHQL certification, I think they look at the driver package itself and not the installer.

Because clean installs solve it for some people, the problem is likely installer related and not a problem with the driver itself.
 
Joined
Feb 18, 2013
Messages
2,182 (0.51/day)
Location
Deez Nutz, bozo!
System Name Rainbow Puke Machine :D
Processor Intel Core i5-11400 (MCE enabled, PL removed)
Motherboard ASUS STRIX B560-G GAMING WIFI mATX
Cooling Corsair H60i RGB PRO XT AIO + HD120 RGB (x3) + SP120 RGB PRO (x3) + Commander PRO
Memory Corsair Vengeance RGB RT 2 x 8GB 3200MHz DDR4 C16
Video Card(s) Zotac RTX2060 Twin Fan 6GB GDDR6 (Stock)
Storage Corsair MP600 PRO 1TB M.2 PCIe Gen4 x4 SSD
Display(s) LG 29WK600-W Ultrawide 1080p IPS Monitor (primary display)
Case Corsair iCUE 220T RGB Airflow (White) w/Lighting Node CORE + Lighting Node PRO RGB LED Strips (x4).
Audio Device(s) ASUS ROG Supreme FX S1220A w/ Savitech SV3H712 AMP + Sonic Studio 3 suite
Power Supply Corsair RM750x 80 Plus Gold Fully Modular
Mouse Corsair M65 RGB FPS Gaming (White)
Keyboard Corsair K60 PRO RGB Mechanical w/ Cherry VIOLA Switches
Software Windows 11 Professional x64 (Update 23H2)
running v364.47 atm... still not getting a crash. Improvements over v362 is (ahem) quite close to nothing
 
Joined
Aug 20, 2007
Messages
21,461 (3.40/day)
System Name Pioneer
Processor Ryzen R9 9950X
Motherboard GIGABYTE Aorus Elite X670 AX
Cooling Noctua NH-D15 + A whole lotta Sunon and Corsair Maglev blower fans...
Memory 64GB (4x 16GB) G.Skill Flare X5 @ DDR5-6000 CL30
Video Card(s) XFX RX 7900 XTX Speedster Merc 310
Storage Intel 905p Optane 960GB boot, +2x Crucial P5 Plus 2TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSDs
Display(s) 55" LG 55" B9 OLED 4K Display
Case Thermaltake Core X31
Audio Device(s) TOSLINK->Schiit Modi MB->Asgard 2 DAC Amp->AKG Pro K712 Headphones or HDMI->B9 OLED
Power Supply FSP Hydro Ti Pro 850W
Mouse Logitech G305 Lightspeed Wireless
Keyboard WASD Code v3 with Cherry Green keyswitches + PBT DS keycaps
Software Gentoo Linux x64 / Windows 11 Enterprise IoT 2024
Anyone else notice WHQL 364.51 just dropped?
 
Joined
Dec 22, 2011
Messages
3,890 (0.82/day)
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
Motherboard MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK
Cooling AMD Wraith Prism
Memory Team Group Dark Pro 8Pack Edition 3600Mhz CL16
Video Card(s) NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 FE
Storage Kingston A2000 1TB + Seagate HDD workhorse
Display(s) Samsung 50" QN94A Neo QLED
Case Antec 1200
Power Supply Seasonic Focus GX-850
Mouse Razer Deathadder Chroma
Keyboard Logitech UltraX
Software Windows 11
MS blessed it. Installer fix is what I hear. Hopefully those this affected are fixed up if they decide to use this driver. :)

And as an added bonus I think we have got rid of nem as well, so all things considered... this storm in a teacup delivered.
 
Joined
Feb 14, 2012
Messages
2,355 (0.50/day)
System Name msdos
Processor 8086
Motherboard mainboard
Cooling passive
Memory 640KB + 384KB extended
Video Card(s) EGA
Storage 5.25"
Display(s) 80x25
Case plastic
Audio Device(s) modchip
Power Supply 45 watts
Mouse serial
Keyboard yes
Software disk commander
Benchmark Scores still running
Joined
Jul 9, 2015
Messages
3,413 (1.00/day)
System Name M3401 notebook
Processor 5600H
Motherboard NA
Memory 16GB
Video Card(s) 3050
Storage 500GB SSD
Display(s) 14" OLED screen of the laptop
Software Windows 10
Benchmark Scores 3050 scores good 15-20% lower than average, despite ASUS's claims that it has uber cooling.
I am a new user of Nvidia, I have my 970 just over a year. before that always used AMD / ATI ... for about 3 years using AMD I never had problems or bugs due to drivers ... since I bought my first Nvidia already had at least three serious problems after driver updates. At least the performance and power consumption of the card is better, but in a matter of drivers nvidia is horrible.

I guess the only thing that matters is how many times particular anecdotal evidence is repeated. To make things worse, nobody can really check such claims.

Personally, I had "need to wipe the crap out" kind of problems with both manufacturers. Today I'm not that happy with how Crimson is handling HDMI, but then, it might be because of the actual spec (no TV is detected if it's switched off, and I'm using "game mode/DVI" on Samsung, whatever the fruck that does to it)
 
Joined
Sep 6, 2013
Messages
3,329 (0.81/day)
Location
Athens, Greece
System Name 3 desktop systems: Gaming / Internet / HTPC
Processor Ryzen 5 5500 / Ryzen 5 4600G / FX 6300 (12 years latter got to see how bad Bulldozer is)
Motherboard MSI X470 Gaming Plus Max (1) / MSI X470 Gaming Plus Max (2) / Gigabyte GA-990XA-UD3
Cooling Νoctua U12S / Segotep T4 / Snowman M-T6
Memory 32GB - 16GB G.Skill RIPJAWS 3600+16GB G.Skill Aegis 3200 / 16GB JUHOR / 16GB Kingston 2400MHz (DDR3)
Video Card(s) ASRock RX 6600 + GT 710 (PhysX)/ Vega 7 integrated / Radeon RX 580
Storage NVMes, ONLY NVMes/ NVMes, SATA Storage / NVMe boot(Clover), SATA storage
Display(s) Philips 43PUS8857/12 UHD TV (120Hz, HDR, FreeSync Premium) ---- 19'' HP monitor + BlitzWolf BW-V5
Case Sharkoon Rebel 12 / CoolerMaster Elite 361 / Xigmatek Midguard
Audio Device(s) onboard
Power Supply Chieftec 850W / Silver Power 400W / Sharkoon 650W
Mouse CoolerMaster Devastator III Plus / CoolerMaster Devastator / Logitech
Keyboard CoolerMaster Devastator III Plus / CoolerMaster Devastator / Logitech
Software Windows 10 / Windows 10&Windows 11 / Windows 10
and I'm using "game mode/DVI" on Samsung, whatever the fruck that does to it
It lowers latency by bypassing the internal circuits that TV has to enhance the video quality that is receiving through HDMI. This enhancing is probably good when displaying low quality video from a mediocre or bad video camera, it is catastrophic when the system sending the video is a PC, not only because of higher latency, but also because the final result is much worst picture quality. A PC is sending a perfect picture to the TV and when the TV tries to improve something that it is already perfect, it only manages to mess up the final picture.
I don't have problems with my Samsung and the HD 7850. Going from Catalyst to Crimson was mostly a UI change for me than anything else.
 
Joined
Jul 9, 2015
Messages
3,413 (1.00/day)
System Name M3401 notebook
Processor 5600H
Motherboard NA
Memory 16GB
Video Card(s) 3050
Storage 500GB SSD
Display(s) 14" OLED screen of the laptop
Software Windows 10
Benchmark Scores 3050 scores good 15-20% lower than average, despite ASUS's claims that it has uber cooling.
It lowers latency by bypassing the internal circuits that TV has to enhance the video quality that is receiving through HDMI.

"Game mode" is available on all ports, yet only HDMI 1 is marked as "HDMI/DVI".
 
Joined
Sep 6, 2013
Messages
3,329 (0.81/day)
Location
Athens, Greece
System Name 3 desktop systems: Gaming / Internet / HTPC
Processor Ryzen 5 5500 / Ryzen 5 4600G / FX 6300 (12 years latter got to see how bad Bulldozer is)
Motherboard MSI X470 Gaming Plus Max (1) / MSI X470 Gaming Plus Max (2) / Gigabyte GA-990XA-UD3
Cooling Νoctua U12S / Segotep T4 / Snowman M-T6
Memory 32GB - 16GB G.Skill RIPJAWS 3600+16GB G.Skill Aegis 3200 / 16GB JUHOR / 16GB Kingston 2400MHz (DDR3)
Video Card(s) ASRock RX 6600 + GT 710 (PhysX)/ Vega 7 integrated / Radeon RX 580
Storage NVMes, ONLY NVMes/ NVMes, SATA Storage / NVMe boot(Clover), SATA storage
Display(s) Philips 43PUS8857/12 UHD TV (120Hz, HDR, FreeSync Premium) ---- 19'' HP monitor + BlitzWolf BW-V5
Case Sharkoon Rebel 12 / CoolerMaster Elite 361 / Xigmatek Midguard
Audio Device(s) onboard
Power Supply Chieftec 850W / Silver Power 400W / Sharkoon 650W
Mouse CoolerMaster Devastator III Plus / CoolerMaster Devastator / Logitech
Keyboard CoolerMaster Devastator III Plus / CoolerMaster Devastator / Logitech
Software Windows 10 / Windows 10&Windows 11 / Windows 10
And that's the only port where it is really working. If you enable game port while using that port I believe you will notice an instant change in quality(to the better). If you enable game mode in other ports you will notice no changes at all.
 

Mussels

Freshwater Moderator
Joined
Oct 6, 2004
Messages
58,413 (7.94/day)
Location
Oystralia
System Name Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load)
Processor Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core)
Motherboard Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded)
Cooling Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate
Memory 2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V)
Video Card(s) Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W))
Storage 2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2
Display(s) Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) | Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) | Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144)
Case Fractal Design R6
Audio Device(s) Logitech G560 | Corsair Void pro RGB |Blue Yeti mic
Power Supply Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY)
Mouse Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL
Keyboard Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps)
VR HMD Oculus Rift S + Quest 2
Software Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware!
Benchmark Scores Nyooom.
that kinda stuff varies between TV's, its not universal. Some of my TV's had one port better than the others, other TV's work the same on each port - my shitty 'thorn' brand 55" in the lounge can ID if any port is using DVI via a converter, or proper HDMI regardless of port.
 
Top