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NVIDIA Taunts AMD's GCN Architecture Performance

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Let's just say that the replacement for the GTX 560Ti is faster than the HD7970. One thing that might play in our favor then is..... A mid level card that is capable of 3 way SLI. If it is Nvidia's only option for awhile.....to beat the HD7970....It would be really nice to see it.
The sad thing is gents.... I don't think these cards will release in February like some rumors have said. I have my reasons for saying this. If anything.... I think we will be seeing them around April.
 

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---Remember this----
GeForce 8800 GTX - 90nm
PCIe 1.1 x16
484mm²
128 CUDA Cores
GeForce 9800 GTX - 65nm
PCIe 2.0 x16
324mm²

Yes. the latter had 10% more transistors despite being 128bit less. that means a total of 20% additional space... otherwise 9800GTX would have been 1.9x shrink more or less 250mm2. back then TA/TF were added and 65nm was leaky, they had to add more of those. the chip ended being 324mm2.

Now with 28nm it is possible to have 512 Cores and 256 bit if history repeats itself. More likely 448 at launch, but 2.5Ghz speeds on the shader, that is way better than GTX580.
 

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Yes. the latter had 10% more transistors despite being 128bit less. that means a total of 20% additional space... otherwise 9800GTX would have been 1.9x shrink more or less 250mm2. back then TA/TF were added and 65nm was leaky, they had to add more of those. the chip ended being 324mm2.

Now with 28nm it is possible to have 512 Cores and 256 bit if history repeats itself. More likely 448 at launch, but 2.5Ghz speeds on the shader, that is way better than GTX580.

Just for accuracy. Remember that G92 had the display chip integrated on die, whereas in G80 it was a standalone chip too. Without that addition the chip would have been << 300mm2.

Yeah cause more transistors immediately means more performance.;)

On GPU? With the same/similar architecture and no DX API change? As sure as hell it does. ;)

While I agree with you, Benetanegia, I think that you sure have a harsh way to make your point :)

I have no love for people who insult for no reason and before they even tried to think abuot what I said and what it means, no.
 
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Its not the first time nvidia says they are "confident" and they have a "better product going on" just after an ATI release.
 
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Its not the first time nvidia says they are "confident" and they have a "better product going on" just after an ATI release.

Yea, I believe it's called marketing.

It appears to be working wonders on seronx. By his calculations nvidia is actually going to be surpassing moore's law by a good margin.
 
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AMD has the upper hand because they released 79xx series first. Who knows how long it will take nvidia to release their new gpus.

Now here's the best part, if and when nvidia's new gpus crush the 79xx series, they're going to cost way more than 500 bucks and AMD will look at this and say "lol k well now we can start working on the 8k series"

In the end, it works out beautifully for consumers.

No actually is quite the opposite. It work beautiful for nvidia and ATI but definitely NOT for consumers, because there is no price war :ohwell:
 
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No actually is quite the opposite. It work beautiful for nvidia and ATI but definitely NOT for consumers, because there is no price war :ohwell:

Duopolies ALWAYS maximize the profits for BOTH companies...
 
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More Nvidia fluff, trying to convince people to wait for there cards. While NV is blowing smoke, HD 7900 Series Radeons are selling like hot cakes.

Good thing sales are directly equivalent to the quality of the product. This is especially apparent with the Nintendo Wii, which by your logic is the BEST console this time around.

:rolleyes:
 
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If this were the case, AMD would end up dropping their prices to stay relevant, right?
 
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...and Bulldozer was supposed to put Sandy Bridge to shame and we can all see that didn't happen. AMD has the product out, it is fast like a bat out of hell, and people are buying it because of that. nVidia can't sell a product that hasn't been released, so until reviews start coming out, I'm skeptical about such claims. (Consider the 7970 vs the GTX 590.)
 
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