PC Upgrade (AMD Only)

[Zazigalka]

do you really need a mobo upgrade? a520 should be enough for a 5700x/x3d

 

[Dr. Dro]

@gotothesettings Assuming you must purchase every part and taking into consideration you live in a region with a particularly hot climate, I made a part list for you I think makes most sense without resorting to white label/dubiously sourced parts

Ryzen 7 5700X3D @ Kabum 1.359
MSI MAG Coreliquid 240 @ Pichau 399
Vengeance LPX 3600 MHz C18 32 GB kit @ Kabum 589
Gigabyte B550M-K @ Pichau 629
Lexar NM800 512GB SSD @ Pichau 359
PowerColor Fighter 7900 GRE @ Pichau 3.999
MSI A750GL PCIe 5 @ Pichau 564
SuperFrame Hercules Full Tower case @ Terabyteshop 419
Pick fans of your choosing, you're gonna need them

Total: ~8400-8500 considering the cents on each of those parts, shipping and all

If you're replacing only the processor and GPU instead of selling your current PC, then just get those two - they'll work great with the setup you currently have!

@wNotyarD pls roast

 

[gotothesettings]

Sure, but that leap ain't happening anymore, the exact opposite is actually happening, the perf/$ is barely moving gen to gen.

It does ofc matter what GPU you're buying. A dual GPU solution is really never future proof, its not even present-proof, really But I think this story applies to cards like the GTX 980ti; the 1080ti and even lower cards in the Pascal stack, like 1080 and 1070ti; further back it applied to the HD7970 and I think it also applies to current gen cards like the 7800XT and say, the 4080 and up, as they're well rounded cards; with Nvidia commanding a slightly better position because of better upscale/RT, albeit at a higher price per frame, but it matters if you need/want it. But perhaps today there's not even a single card that really applies, because there's a lot of moving panels the last couple of years, with new engines/technology, a third player in the market (if anyone is going to surprise us in the future, it will be Intel, not red or green), and an RT investment that needs to pay off at some point.

One thing's certain and that makes me follow your recommendation: there are uncertainties, quite a lot of them, wrt GPU performance gains in the near future. 7700XT is a good choice in that case


If your expectations are THAT low, you can settle for a 7700XT no problem.

Thanks!

Well, for my needs, I think the RX 7700 XT or the RX 7800 XT would be just fine (the differences between these two are not that great). I could go for something more "powerful"... Let's say, any of the RX 7900, but that would impact way too much my budget if I'd want to pick other parts for the upgrade.

do you really need a mobo upgrade? a520 should be enough for a 5700x/x3d

Thanks for the reply.

Well... If I go for the AM5 socket, yeah, which, I think, is the way to go, considering future upgrades. If I go for some of the RX 7900, then no (my current motherboard is compatible with the RX 7900 GPUs) - that's the trade off, I think.

 

[wNotyarD]

@gotothesettings Assuming you must purchase every part and taking into consideration you live in a region with a particularly hot climate, I made a part list for you I think makes most sense without resorting to white label/dubiously sourced parts

Ryzen 7 5700X3D @ Kabum 1.359
MSI MAG Coreliquid 240 @ Pichau 399
Vengeance LPX 3600 MHz C18 32 GB kit @ Kabum 589
Gigabyte B550M-K @ Pichau 629
Lexar NM800 512GB SSD @ Pichau 359
PowerColor Fighter 7900 GRE @ Pichau 3.999
MSI A750GL PCIe 5 @ Pichau 564
SuperFrame Hercules Full Tower case @ Terabyteshop 419
Pick fans of your choosing, you're gonna need them

Total: ~8400-8500 considering the cents on each of those parts, shipping and all

If you're replacing only the processor and GPU instead of selling your current PC, then just get those two - they'll work great with the setup you currently have!

@wNotyarD pls roast

From your build, I think that a full tower is overkill (price's nice, though) and I am particularly wary of using Vengeance RAM with Ryzen, too many reports of it being a pita. Budget be damned, though (yep, it sucks to wake up everyday still Brazilian).

If @gotothesettings just slaps a 5700X3D and a new GPU (7800XT minimum, preferably 7900GRE, if upgrading from his 7600) it'd be alright. Even his A520M should handle it fine.

 

[gotothesettings]

@gotothesettings Assuming you must purchase every part and taking into consideration you live in a region with a particularly hot climate, I made a part list for you I think makes most sense without resorting to white label/dubiously sourced parts

Ryzen 7 5700X3D @ Kabum 1.359
MSI MAG Coreliquid 240 @ Pichau 399
Vengeance LPX 3600 MHz C18 32 GB kit @ Kabum 589
Gigabyte B550M-K @ Pichau 629
Lexar NM800 512GB SSD @ Pichau 359
PowerColor Fighter 7900 GRE @ Pichau 3.999
MSI A750GL PCIe 5 @ Pichau 564
SuperFrame Hercules Full Tower case @ Terabyteshop 419
Pick fans of your choosing, you're gonna need them

Total: ~8400-8500 considering the cents on each of those parts, shipping and all

If you're replacing only the processor and GPU instead of selling your current PC, then just get those two - they'll work great with the setup you currently have!

@wNotyarD pls roast

Great!

Thanks a lot! It will definitely help me in the final decision.

I am starting to think that the best option would be to sell my current system entirely, add the money to my current budget and build a brand new system.

This way I think I could surely go for some of the Radeon RX 7900.

 

[LittleBro]

I stand by my advice - get used RX 6800 XT.

Avoid RX 7700 XT. If 7800 XT is only $60 more, go for it. 7800XT is better card and future proof.

I own 7800XT Phantom Gaming and I'm so dissapointed that this card gets beat 6800XT so often. That reduction of cache with 7000 generation was a stupid move. My card has terrible coil whine.

Come to think of it, it may as well be available for sale, if you know what I mean.

 

[wNotyarD]

I stand by my advice - get used RX 6800 XT.

You'd be surprised how bad the used parts market is here. Especially for parts bought during the mining craze.

 

[Dr. Dro]

You'd be surprised how bad the used parts market is here. Especially for parts bought during the mining craze.

Yeah, it never recovered... it got only slightly less bad, but finding great used hardware at low prices has become quite difficult.

Man at this point all I hope is that I can fit a 5090 on my credit card...

 

[oxrufiioxo]

I'd say 7600/B650/7800XT or stick with your board and get a 5700X3D/7900XT

I'd want to not use FSR as much as possible definitely quality at a min and 4k is a much larger jump performance wise than from 1080p to 1440p especially in modern game engines unless medium ish or lower settings is your jam.





I mean you are gonna have to really downgrade settings with either gpu to even hit 60fps......

 

[yfn_ratchet]

Hi!

Next november I will upgrade my system and I would like to know from you guys what do you think the best parts would be.

As for the processor and GPU, I was thinking about getting the Ryzen 5 5800X and the Radeon RX 7700 XT. Concerning the motherboard, I was thinking about the ASUS ROG Strix B550-F Gaming II.

Did not decide nothing yet about storage and RAM memory (keeping what I already have of these parts would be an option too).

For me, playing at 1080p and 2K resolutions just above 60 fps are fine, but I was thinking maybe getting a 50 inches 4K TV (took I look at the LG UHD UR8750 last week).

I do not think I will have to replace my power supply (but I would like to know your thoughts about this part as well).

Budget (not included the TV price): $1,000 USD.

What do you think the best options are?

I'm sure I'm only echoing what others have said, but:

In regards to 'go AM5' I still find it a pain in the wallet even with the 800 chipsets around the corner. If you have an AM4 board, stay on AM4. It leaves you a lot more wiggle room for higher priority items. The Ryzen 7 5700X3D makes the most sense for a proper gaming upgrade on AM4, anything else is moot since you're already on Zen 3.

Re: new motherboard (Specifically the ASUS ROG Strix B550-F WiFi II, which I own and use) there isn't much of a reason to get it, as the only extensibility I would see you wanting is either more PCIe slots, more M.2 slots, or more rear USB ports, all of which are on offer by other boards for far cheaper. If all you want is the wireless networking, get any of the countless AX200/AX210 PCIe x1 add-in cards and call it a day. TP-Link, StarTech, and Silverstone will probably fill up the lower-priced cards I maintain confidence in.

In terms of storage/RAM, your setup is fine but more demanding titles (especially poorly-optimized Unity titles like 90% of VR games) will demand a roomy 32GB to remain a smooth experience. Not a requirement, but it's worth noting.

1080p/1440p 60+ FPS is already attainable on your current card IMO, but it depends heavily on title. As is, you don't need to go new. If you can dig up a used 6800 or better (assuming it's significantly cheaper), then go for that. A 7700XT or better is fine for the same purpose, however.

Now for the fun part. Your PSU sucks. I wouldn't use it a day past the warranty. GameMax is a bottom-tier manufacturer across the board and you're lucky it HASN'T blown up on you yet. I recommend any 750W low-end unit from a better-repute brand: Corsair CX, Thermaltake Toughpower GX3, Seasonic FOCUS, MSI MAG A-BN series come to mind.

I'm sure you already know by now, but if you're not going to reuse your CPU or GPU I recommend selling them off to offset the cost and hand your stuff down to someone who will make good use of it.

 

[AleXXX666]

When I got my 5800X an year ago, it cost 200EUR and X3D was a little over 300EUR. These days there is the 5700X3D which is a way better option, I'd go for it without a doubt in the ~200EUR price range.


NO! The 8000 series is a dud what it comes to gaming since they're APUs with half the cache of the "real" Ryzens. I'd rather get a 7500F and spend that saved cash for a 7800 XT.

"upgrade" for 200 EUR? LOL way pricy

 

[tussinman]

And if the games you play is not CPU limited (and we are talking 4K resolution), 5600X is enough most of the time.

That's kind of what I was thinking. If he wants 4k 60hz I'd be more incline to just keep the 5600x and see how it does. It's not like he's aiming for a 4090 level GPU

 

[Eskimonster]

Just a thought, what are you using now(sorry if i missed it)

 

[gotothesettings]

Thanks for all the replies!

For a AMD4 socket based system, I am thinking of something like this:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor ($166 USD)
CPU Cooler: MSI MAG CORELIQUID P240 78.73 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($75.98 USD)
Motherboard: MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard ($199.99 USD)
Memory: keep what I have
Storage: keep what I have
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7700 XT 12 GB Video Card ($437.36 USD)
Case: keep what I have
Power Supply: MSI MPG A850G PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 USD)
OS: keep what I have
Monitor: change to TV - Smart TV 50" 4K LG UHD ThinQ AI 50UR8750PSA HDR Bluetooth Alexa Google Assistente Airplay2 3 HDMI Game Mode
Peripherials: keep what I have

What do you think?

I will post later a build based on the AM5 socket.

 

[Ruru]

Thanks for all the replies!

For a AMD4 socket based system, I am thinking of something like this:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor ($166 USD)
CPU Cooler: MSI MAG CORELIQUID P240 78.73 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($75.98 USD)
Motherboard: MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard ($199.99 USD)
Memory: keep what I have
Storage: keep what I have
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7700 XT 12 GB Video Card ($437.36 USD)
Case: keep what I have
Power Supply: MSI MPG A850G PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 USD)
OS: keep what I have
Monitor: change to TV - Smart TV 50" 4K LG UHD ThinQ AI 50UR8750PSA HDR Bluetooth Alexa Google Assistente Airplay2 3 HDMI Game Mode
Peripherials: keep what I have

What do you think?

I will post later a build based on the AM5 socket.

Get a 5700X3D if the price difference isn't huge. And you don't need that expensive motherboard, get a cheaper one and put the saved money for a 7800 XT.

 

[eidairaman1]

We have to know all your hardware options and what are the prices on your region.
I wouldn’t buy the 5800X.
Go for 5700X, 5700X3D or go straight to 5800X3D.

For 4K the RX 7700XT will struggle a bit or much depending the game and settings.

5800 oem is the 5700X fyi, if you find 1 for cheap get it

do you really need a mobo upgrade? a520 should be enough for a 5700x/x3d

Need to look at detailed specs of the motherboard, I treated a 5800 like a 5800X and got the AsRock B550 Steel Legend in late 2021.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Thanks for all the replies!

For a AMD4 socket based system, I am thinking of something like this:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor ($166 USD)
CPU Cooler: MSI MAG CORELIQUID P240 78.73 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($75.98 USD)
Motherboard: MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard ($199.99 USD)
Memory: keep what I have
Storage: keep what I have
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7700 XT 12 GB Video Card ($437.36 USD)
Case: keep what I have
Power Supply: MSI MPG A850G PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 USD)
OS: keep what I have
Monitor: change to TV - Smart TV 50" 4K LG UHD ThinQ AI 50UR8750PSA HDR Bluetooth Alexa Google Assistente Airplay2 3 HDMI Game Mode
Peripherials: keep what I have

What do you think?

I will post later a build based on the AM5 socket.

The 5700X3D will outperform the 5800X and even the 5950X for games, do you mean to play games or is this machine being built for work? No point replacing the motherboard btw, your money is best spent on getting the 7900 GRE instead. The A520 will not hinder the 5700X3D's performance.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

The 5700X3D will outperform the 5800X and even the 5950X for games, do you mean to play games or is this machine being built for work? No point replacing the motherboard btw, your money is best spent on getting the 7900 GRE instead. The A520 will not hinder the 5700X3D's performance.

Yup. Vanilla Zen 3 is not worth the savings, v-cache is the better spend. If the board does struggle, just zip tie a fan to blow on the VRMs; cheap solution. The 7900GRE with a memory overclock is great bang for buck, would not waste money on anything below it from AMD NIB this late in 2024.

 

[gotothesettings]

Get a 5700X3D if the price difference isn't huge. And you don't need that expensive motherboard, get a cheaper one and put the saved money for a 7800 XT.

Nice!

So the upgrade would look like this:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D 3.0 GHz 8-Core Processor ($241 USD)
CPU Cooler: MSI MAG CORELIQUID P240 78.73 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($75.98 USD)
Motherboard: MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard ($199.99 USD)
Memory: keep what I have
Storage: keep what I have
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7700 XT 12 GB Video Card ($437.36 USD)
Case: keep what I have
Power Supply: MSI MPG A850G PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 USD)
OS: keep what I have
Monitor: change to TV - Smart TV 50" 4K LG UHD ThinQ AI 50UR8750PSA HDR Bluetooth Alexa Google Assistente Airplay2 3 HDMI Game Mode
Peripherials: keep what I have

The thing about the motherboard I own is that my RX 7600 sits on PCIe 3.0 x16 slot.

I also found an RX 6800 XT ASRock Phantom Gaming edition priced at $260 USD more than the Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7700 XT.

What do you guys think? Is it worth it?

 

[tussinman]

Monitor: change to TV - Smart TV 50" 4K LG UHD ThinQ AI 50UR8750PSA HDR Bluetooth Alexa Google Assistente Airplay2 3 HDMI Game Mode

For 4k 60hz I personally wouldn't buy a new motherboard and CPU, especially if your only going from a 5600x to a 5800x3d.

That's a lot of additional money for what could be possible a small real world performance increase. Just keep your current setup and buy the nicest GPU you can afford.

 

[lexluthermiester]

As for the processor and GPU, I was thinking about getting the Ryzen 5 5800X and the Radeon RX 7700 XT. Concerning the motherboard, I was thinking about the ASUS ROG Strix B550-F Gaming II.

These are good choices. I would swing you toward a 5700X instead and to an AsRock board. Save a bit of money on those two items and shift that money over to the GPU, 7800XT.

 

[eidairaman1]

These are good choices. I would swing you toward a 5700X instead and to an AsRock board. Save a bit of money on those two items and shift that money over to the GPU, 7800XT.

5800 oem if it can be found for the right price

 

[dgianstefani]

As has been repeatedly said...

Spend less on CPU and more on GPU.

5700X3D, no need for new motherboard, no need for new cooling.

That's $300 saved.

Now get a GPU that isn't anaemic.

I cannot stress this enough, the 12 GB 7700XT is not good for 4K. This is fact, not opinion. There are many games where it won't even consistently hit 30 native FPS, let alone 60.

At the bare minimum at least get a 4070 Super, that way you have a competent upscaler (DLSS) instead of the bad joke of FSR (which you will need to use with 12 GB VRAM and a relatively low performance at 4K), internal rendering resolution can then be 1440p but it will still look good.

Ideally do not mess around with lower mid range cards and go straight to 4070 Ti Super 16 GB which is a cut down 4080. If you must go AMD for reasons, minimum 7900XT.

Don't even bother changing CPU unless you're moving to an X3D. Complete waste of money.

If budget is in question at all, skip the CPU upgrade entirely and dump entire budget on GPU.

5600X is entirely fine for 4K60.

7700XT or even 7800XT is NOT.

 

[Athlonite]

Hi!

Next november I will upgrade my system and I would like to know from you guys what do you think the best parts would be.

As for the processor and GPU, I was thinking about getting the Ryzen 5 5800X and the Radeon RX 7700 XT. Concerning the motherboard, I was thinking about the ASUS ROG Strix B550-F Gaming II.

Did not decide nothing yet about storage and RAM memory (keeping what I already have of these parts would be an option too).

For me, playing at 1080p and 2K resolutions just above 60 fps are fine, but I was thinking maybe getting a 50 inches 4K TV (took I look at the LG UHD UR8750 last week).

I do not think I will have to replace my power supply (but I would like to know your thoughts about this part as well).

Budget (not included the TV price): $1,000 USD.

What do you think the best options are?

Why stick to the last gen go B650 and R7 7800X3D and a RX7800XT like the hellhound or red devil and some Gskill ddr5 6000MT ram

 

[Fener]

Sorry if I take advantage of the thread. I would also be interested in upgrading the PC while remaining on the AMD CPU.
Here are the features of my current PC:

CPU: Ryzen 3700x cooled with an arctic freezer duo esport 34
Motherboard: Asus x570 TUF-Plus wifi
RAM: 32GB DDR4 Crucial 3600MHz
Video Card: Radeon RX 6700XT
SSD: Crucial mx500
Power supply: Corsair tx750m

I use the PC mainly for gaming and sometimes for video editing using a 24 inch full HD monitor. Can you advice me a newer cpu? I am undecided between 5800x3d and 5700x3d. thank you