Phenom II X6 1090T tested

[crazyeyesreaper]

yet ppl forget Phenom II x6 is just an X4 with 2 more cores its like everyone expects this to be a gift of god its not the fact is tho 2.8ghz 6core was beating a 3.8ghz Q9550 by up to 60% supposedly again ill wait for a real review but seems again supposedly these 6 cores at 125watts can hit greater then 4ghz on Air and you can complain about generation all you want but $199 thuban is beating a $279 Q9550 what matters is price/performance and acccording preliminary tests by a few ppl thuban is very good in that sense and where the hell did u get 4 more threads from thuban = 6 cores 6 threads your analogy above would make it 6 cores 8threads what i call sad is you can buy a 920 or 930 for close to the same price as intels 2 generation old quad core zzzzzz

 

[Tatty_Two]

yet ppl forget Phenom II x6 is just an X4 with 2 more cores its like everyone expects this to be a gift of god its not the fact is tho 2.8ghz 6core was beating a 3.8ghz Q9550 by up to 60% supposedly again ill wait for a real review but seems again supposedly these 6 cores at 125watts can hit greater then 4ghz on Air and you can complain about generation all you want but $199 thuban is beating a $279 Q9550 what matters is price/performance and acccording preliminary tests by a few ppl thuban is very good in that sense and where the hell did u get 4 more threads from thuban = 6 cores 6 threads your analogy above would make it 6 cores 8threads what i call sad is you can buy a 920 or 930 for close to the same price as intels 2 generation old quad core zzzzzz

Thats the "secret" 2 threads Now shoot me.... i swear I have 4 cores and 8 threads on my i7 so you saying this chip has 6 cores but not 12 threads? So you will wait to see a "real" review but are happy to beleive what the price will be? i said the same when people were speculating on how cheap the 5870 would be before it's release........ I will be very surprised if it has such a lowly price tag if it can compete with a Core i7 920/930 but let's wait and see. As I understood it, the lower models (read 1035, possibly 1055) were going to be around $200 with the BE edition (1090, this model tested?)coming in at around $380? Anyways, I am old and cynical and as you have said, I beleive nothing until I see the price and performance for myself, unless of course it's from a reputable source.

 

[cdawall]

You know some thing I never liked about AMD is this kinda crap ! They give them to one group of people and no one els ? WTF . Why is it some guy in china the only ones to get it first ? I really hate that about AMD . Why not let us have it first ? why is some kid in china getting them before ME ?!

Not only that but yeah they are from what I see not even worth it . quads are so under used right now , I think this is only going to be geared towards the server market not needed or even used in the desk top market .
This would be for E-peen status and really nothing more at all .

Ppl in the us have them they are just under nda and cannot post benchmarks I know people in the states who have bulldozer chips already its not hard to get new parts prerelease if you are in the correct circles

 

[TheLaughingMan]

I just need AMD to not outsource their boxes design to Intel. I know it was a bit confusing, but I miss the old design of standard processors coming in Black/green boxes and BE's coming in solid black boxes. And if you are going to a new design.....I am going to need the design to not be from Intel. Stick with the Black, Red, and Green.

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

Thats the "secret" 2 threads Now shoot me.... i swear I have 4 cores and 8 threads on my i7 so you saying this chip has 6 cores but not 12 threads? So you will wait to see a "real" review but are happy to beleive what the price will be? i said the same when people were speculating on how cheap the 5870 would be before it's release........ I will be very surprised if it has such a lowly price tag if it can compete with a Core i7 920/930 but let's wait and see. As I understood it, the lower models (read 1035, possibly 1055) were going to be around $200 with the BE edition (1090, this model tested?)coming in at around $380? Anyways, I am old and cynical and as you have said, I beleive nothing until I see the price and performance for myself, unless of course it's from a reputable source.

$199 msrp there fixed my mistake 1055 Thuban at 2.8 was beating the Q9550 at 3.8 thats what was posted and as i said i wont believe it till i see reliable reviews on the processor just as i dont really believe 4.2ghz on air with 1.4 volts that was in one of the chinese reviews

 

[-1nf1n1ty-]

hmmm I was saving for the 6 core amd cpus.....so does that mean they arent worth it?

 

[TheMailMan78]

I want to see photoshop on one of these.

 

[Deleted member 67555]

At the moment I don't see a point for any 6 core cpu since most games have a max of 4 cores or four core patches so they are not used as a single core (dirt2)
that being said as soon as i have the money I'm buying one.

 

[TheLaughingMan]

At the moment I don't see a point for any 6 core cpu since most games have a max of 4 cores or four core patches so they are not used as a single core (dirt2)
that being said as soon as i have the money I'm buying one.

Well the beauty of this new processor class is the processor/chipset will detect when on 1 or 2 cores are being used for gaming. It will down clock the unused cores, and bump up the speed of the used cores to provide more power. No more need for patches and the like.

I think it is a cool concept, but I also want some Stateside reviews done to see how effective the "turbo" really is for AMD.

Still mostly pointless for games. 3 cores is about all you need to game on.

 

[eidairaman1]

OH man this is not good at all . I just read this and well my Q9650 seems to be quite = to this ( over clocked of-course ) . I was expecting a much greater leap with the added cores than this . Maybe we are seeing some thing here ? Adding cores is not going to do it for AMD they need to get with it fast . I do not see this being the "Next big thing " from AMD . Just a repeat with added cores . i7 is still holding up as a huge obstacle for AMD to over come .

This is where Bulldozer Comes into Play

 

[bpgt64]

This is where Bulldozer Comes into Play

What a year later? Bulldozer is due out in 2011 right? I could swore Intel was releasing a whole new lineup of X68 chips as well.

Don't get me wrong, I am actually replacing my i7 with a 1090T next week. I am putting the 8 threaded monster to better use working as an ESXi VMware environment. I figure I stuck with AMD GPUs, I might as well go full boar. I play mostly TF2/L4D2; games that get destroyed by either hardware...so go figure.

 

[KaelMaelstrom]

you can see that the Phenom 2 X6 is made in Malaysia XD. This Processor beats the i7 980X because of the price but i7 980X beats X6 in performance with hyper thread, 12 threads vs 6 threads in gaming and 12 threads vs 4 threads (The 2 threads are locked during idle) in idle
Some 3D mark of the 980X has more than 20000 and some of them are between 18000-20000.
so if you have a big budget, then get i7 980X.Or if you seek cheaper ones then get Phenom 2 X6....

 

[naoan]

no, fact is per core and per clock, Intel wins but AMD does the job goddamn well for the price.

and you're a month late while bringing nothing new to the table.

 

[Tatty_Two]

you can see that the Phenom 2 X6 is made in Malaysia XD. This Processor beats the i7 980X because of the price but i7 980X beats X6 in performance with hyper thread, 12 threads vs 6 threads in gaming and 12 threads vs 4 threads (The 2 threads are locked during idle) in idle
Some 3D mark of the 980X has more than 20000 and some of them are between 18000-20000.
so if you have a big budget, then get i7 980X.Or if you seek cheaper ones then get Phenom 2 X6....

Yes but in many things the 1090T fails to better the i7 930 which in the UK at least is cheaper than the 1090T, so really a comparison with the price /performance of the 980X is a little unfair on both camps. To me though, the great strength of the 1090T is in it's versitility, where it tends to excel, it does so at a good price point and is an excellent upgrade option for current AM3 users as well as owners of older generation kit, it's still at a disadvantage over the 930 in heavily multithreaded apps purely because it has 2 less threads but for me it's a delight at least to see AMD at least competing more rigourosly in this market.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2010/04/27/amd-phenom-ii-x6-1090t-black-edition/10

 

[happita]

From the benchies I've seen of the 1090T, I've seen that the 965BE beats it flat out in like half of the tests, especially gaming benchmarks.....it's a bit sad, but understandable seeing as though nothing utilizes 6 cores yet

 

[trt740]

From the benchies I've seen of the 1090T, I've seen that the 965BE beats it flat out in like half of the tests, especially gaming benchmarks.....it's a bit sad, but understandable seeing as though nothing utilizes 6 cores yet

That would be, because the 965 is clocked 200 mghz higher to begin with, however, if you overclock it and most will match the 965 c3 core overclock, and will do a higher N/B 3000+ to the 965's average 2600+ so it is indeed faster all the way around.

 

[eidairaman1]

Yes but in many things the 1090T fails to better the i7 930 which in the UK at least is cheaper than the 1090T, so really a comparison with the price /performance of the 980X is a little unfair on both camps. To me though, the great strength of the 1090T is in it's versitility, where it tends to excel, it does so at a good price point and is an excellent upgrade option for current AM3 users as well as owners of older generation kit, it's still at a disadvantage over the 930 in heavily multithreaded apps purely because it has 2 less threads but for me it's a delight at least to see AMD at least competing more rigourosly in this market.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2010/04/27/amd-phenom-ii-x6-1090t-black-edition/10

I say after AM3 is where AMD is goin to be playin ball again, right now they are just making money.

From the benchies I've seen of the 1090T, I've seen that the 965BE beats it flat out in like half of the tests, especially gaming benchmarks.....it's a bit sad, but understandable seeing as though nothing utilizes 6 cores yet

I say when you pit a Hex Core to a Quad, aka clock for clock You will have the hex core pulling more data through, otherwise the hexcore doesn't have to work as hard as the quad, beyond that the hexcores are clocking higher than the quads ever did.

 

[KaelMaelstrom]

Looking at every company,Intel and Amd are the same.This year Amd's market share has drop.so weird to hear this even though they put the price so low but Intel still dominating those retail stores.Im looking forward for amd's Bulldozer and Intel's Haswell processor.