Potential RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 Pricing in China Leaks

[TheLostSwede]

What we've all been waiting for, might just have appeared and what we're talking about is of course the pricing of NVIDIA's upcoming graphics cards. @wxnod has posted a single screenshot on X/Twitter of what could be the MSRP of the RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 in China. The MSRP of the RTX 4080 was 9,499 RMB and the RTX 5080 appears to be not that much higher, at 9,999 RMB, but this still equates to about US$1,370, although do note that there's 13 percent sales tax/VAT in China.

Now as for the RTX 5090, things won't be as rosy. The RTX 4090 had an MSRP of 12,999 RMB in China and the RTX 5090 comes in at an insane 18,999 RMB or US$2,600. That's a price hike of a not insignificant 46 percent over the RTX 4090 and this might make it the most expensive consumer graphics card ever released. We'd suggest taking these prices with a helping of NaCl just to be on the safe side. The cards are expected to be available some time in January according to the screenshot.

Update 15:34 UTC: A second picture was posted in the same thread on X/Twitter that shows the expected launch months of the lower-tier RTX 5000-series cards as well and it appears to be taken from a video.



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[chris.london]

That is odd, potentially fake. The 5090 won’t be on sale in China.

 

[Legacy-ZA]

The pain, the pain... I just can't...

 

[kapone32]

That is odd, potentially fake. The 5090 won’t be on sale in China.

Until the Feds step in but there is a new Admin coming.

 

[TheLostSwede]

That is odd, potentially fake. The 5090 won’t be on sale in China.

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It's not about tariffs, but compute power exceeding what is allowed to be sold in China.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Until the Feds step in but there is a new Admin coming.

Your comment just reminded me of this age old gif.

(The user obviously being the manufacturers)

No OAPs were harmed in the making of this gif.

 

[Daven]

600W and $2000+ for 25% more performance over the 4090.

No thanks.

 

[theouto]

About what was expected given that the gpu only grew in size, so it's not a surprise.

Diminishing returns for the top end are back in the menu.

 

[docnorth]

That is odd, potentially fake. The 5090 won’t be on sale in China.

Probably 5090d.

 

[Frick]

So a 5080 will be as much as the 4080 Super is right now.

 

[theglaze]

That is odd, potentially fake. The 5090 won’t be on sale in China.

Exactly.

That said, I've seen several 'investigation' videos on YT of people hunting down RTX 4090 being sold illegally in China, just like any other banned good. Go to the right markets, talk to enough people, and eventually you can find one. With a hefty 'premium' price.

 

[mechtech]

"the RTX 5090 comes in at an insane 18,999 RMB or US$2,600."

Is that without the 60% alleged tariff?

 

[ir_cow]

$2,600 isn't the worst. At least it will stay in stock. Anyone remember the Titan Z for $3,000 that didn't even stay king for a year? Not to mention the SLI thingy. Just two GTX 780s underclocked

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Exactly.

That said, I've seen several 'investigation' videos on YT of people hunting down RTX 4090 being sold illegally in China, just like any other banned good. Go to the right markets, talk to enough people, and eventually you can find one. With a hefty 'premium' price.

Its happened before.

I think MSI has also been caught with their pants down shipping GPu's to China or Russia and they deflected by saying it wasnt them but one of their partners that did it. I think it was MSi but it could have also been Zotac. I cant quite remember

 

[Klemc]

The pain, the pain... I just can't...

Look, i looked at the 98800x3d price here, 700 euros, where (same store) 7800x3d was 500 !!

Pain will grow... 6000 GPU 80/90 will be sold 2000 euros looks like ;p

 

[mate123]

The last few 4090 left in the shops currently go for ~2800 usd here (w 27% sales tax) so I expect the 5090 to launch for around 3000$ or more...

 

[freeagent]

Here on Amazon they range from 3400CAD to 7000CAD.

Doesn't seem like a good deal to me

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Here on Amazon they range from 3400CAD to 7000CAD.

Doesn't seem like a good deal to me

are they 3rd party merchants though? Cuz they could be scammers doing some scamming.

 

[evernessince]

In past gens $320 got you 70 - 78% flagship performance. 50% for $1,370 is crazy.

$2,600 isn't the worst. At least it will stay in stock.

$2,600 is pretty much around worst case predictions. It's a straight $1,000 price increase. It may actually stay in stock assuming it isn't soaked up for AI. That price is high enough to where I can see even many ultra-enthusiasts question it. Heck I'm questioning it and I do use my 4090 for both work and AI.

Anyone remember the Titan Z for $3,000 that didn't even stay king for a year? Not to mention the SLI thingy. Just two GTX 780s underclocked

Titan Z had 8.8 times the FP64 performance of the 980 Ti and whopped the next gen 1080 Ti in that regard as well. Not a good comparison, the 5090 will not have a 1:3 FP64 ratio.

Half of all the Titan cards released had FP64 at a 1:3 rate and of the half that didn't, only a single card had an MSRP that exceeded $1,200. That single card (the titan RTX) was the last Titan card, probably because Nvidia realized it didn't want to give people a good performing FP64 card for "cheap" but the Titan name was misleading to people looking for that.

The xx90 class was born specifically to avoid connections to the engineering and scientific chops of Titan class cards yet people still use them as excuses for Nvidia's pricing.

Its happened before.

I think MSI has also been caught with their pants down shipping GPu's to China or Russia and they deflected by saying it wasnt them but one of their partners that did it. I think it was MSi but it could have also been Zotac. I cant quite remember

It was Zotac.

If I'm any of these companies I'd avoid doing that. The risk isn't worth getting cut off in European and US markets, especially for a company as large as MSI that sells much more than GPUs.

The last few 4090 left in the shops currently go for ~2800 usd here (w 27% sales tax) so I expect the 5090 to launch for around 3000$ or more...

Consider that Nvidia stopped production prior to launch so those prices are inflated. I'm still seeing 4090s averaging $1,700 in the used market.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

The risk isn't worth getting cut off in European and US markets, especially for a company as large as MSI that sells much more than GPUs.

I think cutting them off would be such a scorched earth approach. For starters. The Government gets paid a tonne of VAT. In MSI's case, they do a lot more things than just GPUs so banning them from trading in Europe is probably going to destroy them. I doubt Nvidia or AMD would want to partner up with them again and MSi are already in trouble with AMD - Hence their usage of Intel chips for the MSi Claw handhelds.

Nobody is going to cut anyone from the market. They are more likely to get fined a few million by the EU or sanctioned by the new US Administration

 

[bug]

Exactly.

That said, I've seen several 'investigation' videos on YT of people hunting down RTX 4090 being sold illegally in China, just like any other banned good. Go to the right markets, talk to enough people, and eventually you can find one. With a hefty 'premium' price.

Yes, but if you do that you incur a hefty premium. You can't just look at how much a 4090 goes for in China and say that must be MSRP.

 

[Dr. Dro]

From 18,999 CNY I can extrapolate a similar pricing in Brazil. I expect it to start at 16,999 BRL, which should be relatively similar to premium RTX 4090 models back when the card was new. You can find most for 12,599 to 13,999 nowadays.

 

[Ferrum Master]

I'll be quite frank...

New games aren't that good to invest into it either way... TW4 maybe? But it is years away. We all know GTA6 will need a 6000 series to run good as it is always with rockstar and I expect it to flop in certain ways, there are certain signs of that.

 

[evernessince]

I think cutting them off would be such a scorched earth approach. For starters. The Government gets paid a tonne of VAT. In MSI's case, they do a lot more things than just GPUs so banning them from trading in Europe is probably going to destroy them. I doubt Nvidia or AMD would want to partner up with them again and MSi are already in trouble with AMD - Hence their usage of Intel chips for the MSi Claw handhelds.

Nobody is going to cut anyone from the market. They are more likely to get fined a few million by the EU or sanctioned by the new US Administration

The government doesn't really loose any taxes by cutting off MSI. MSI's competitors would simply fill the volume. It's not like MSI themselves produce the chips.

What you call scorched earth others call enforcing the law and setting an example. Unless the fines are extremely severe they can simply be considered a cost of doing business and may have zero corrective impact. There are thousands of examples of companies gladly taking fine to continue to flout the law. Fine also take forever to work through the bureaucracy and appeals. At some point justice delayed becomes justice denied. Companies need to FAFO and action by government needs to be made to ensure the latter happens.